Just wondering if anyone know who are on the list for this year. Mainly curious if Efren gonna show up.
2007 US Open 9 Ball
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i dont know for sure but i would guess he will be there.not to heist your thread here but it just seems unreal that the entry to the open is only,what,$500? wow,one the most sought after pool titles in the world.am i crazy or does it seem like this event should be $1200 or $1500 in entry? i cant imagine any player having a problem with an entry fee like that (considering most of the time they play on somebody elses coin).we talk about bigger prize money and this imo should be one of the largest paying events on earth,i mean its the united states 9 ball open for gods sake! ok im done now
Hitting the Nail on the Head
Absolutely, unequivicably,right on.What 5k to the world,s best players. Just imagine the prestige of being U.S. Open Champion. 100% payback would be 1,280,000 not including any sponsorship monies. Just imagine. There's your million dollar tournament.
Absolutely, unequivicably,right on.What 5k to the world,s best players. Just imagine the prestige of being U.S. Open Champion. 100% payback would be 1,280,000 not including any sponsorship monies. Just imagine. There's your million dollar tournament.
This is all very hypothetical
You pay ur money 5k and u go. If a room decides to run a qualifier fine. No promises like the IPT. It's simple raise the entry to 5k and let those that think they are good enough to be U.S. Open Champion step up to the plate and play for the cheese. 256 players at 5k apiece thats $1,280,000. At $500 entry fee I can afford to send three players every year and we still can't fill it.
It's simple, if u want to play for the big bucks you got to pay accordingly. How many players do you think could spend 5k to win in excess of 500k. The venue is there, small but adequate,overhead is a fixed. Let's raise the entry fee to 5k next year and just see what happens. Let the players step up since they are the ones who will get to reap the benefits. Sounds too good to be true doesn't it ?
No organization or players union is needed. Simply pay up and play. Don't need a new promoter since there hasalready been one in place for this tournament for over 30 years. Come on Barry step up take a chance. What have u got to lose.
You pay ur money 5k and u go. If a room decides to run a qualifier fine. No promises like the IPT. It's simple raise the entry to 5k and let those that think they are good enough to be U.S. Open Champion step up to the plate and play for the cheese. 256 players at 5k apiece thats $1,280,000. At $500 entry fee I can afford to send three players every year and we still can't fill it.
It's simple, if u want to play for the big bucks you got to pay accordingly. How many players do you think could spend 5k to win in excess of 500k. The venue is there, small but adequate,overhead is a fixed. Let's raise the entry fee to 5k next year and just see what happens. Let the players step up since they are the ones who will get to reap the benefits. Sounds too good to be true doesn't it ?
No organization or players union is needed. Simply pay up and play. Don't need a new promoter since there hasalready been one in place for this tournament for over 30 years. Come on Barry step up take a chance. What have u got to lose.
dimes33 said:i dont know for sure but i would guess he will be there.not to heist your thread here but it just seems unreal that the entry to the open is only,what,$500? wow,one the most sought after pool titles in the world.am i crazy or does it seem like this event should be $1200 or $1500 in entry? i cant imagine any player having a problem with an entry fee like that (considering most of the time they play on somebody elses coin).we talk about bigger prize money and this imo should be one of the largest paying events on earth,i mean its the united states 9 ball open for gods sake! ok im done now
I tried to get Barry to raise it to $750 this year. I told him that the first prize could then be $50,000. He refused because he wants to be assured of a full field.
Doesn't Make Sense
The truly great players of the world could fill the event at even 5k. All u can get at $500 are are a few of the greats and many also rans. Despite all my hypothecising, I love the Open and will be there again this year. He should fill it. No IPT to cloud everyones vision. He filled lt in 05 I believe. We are sending three players again this year. Michael Fuller, Jim Faircloth, and David Brown. Jimmy last played in the Open when it was still being played at Cuemasters. Should be a great week. See you there.
The truly great players of the world could fill the event at even 5k. All u can get at $500 are are a few of the greats and many also rans. Despite all my hypothecising, I love the Open and will be there again this year. He should fill it. No IPT to cloud everyones vision. He filled lt in 05 I believe. We are sending three players again this year. Michael Fuller, Jim Faircloth, and David Brown. Jimmy last played in the Open when it was still being played at Cuemasters. Should be a great week. See you there.
i understand where barry is coming from,i would feel the same way in his shoes but at 750 i cant imagine him not having a full field.while im on this subject i also think the dcc should have a higher entry.the best players on earth attend this event and its what,375 for all 3 events? i mean i dont any dues payed as td or tp like you do but would raising these fees really make a player think about not going?jay helfert said:
jay helfert said:
Wouldn't you think the lure of $50,000 would ensure a full field? Amazing. We all complain about the poor payouts in pool & yet here is a prime opportunity to give the players what they want! Not to mention the prestige of being the US Open Champion!
I'm gonna go bang my head on the keyboard now!
arsenius said:
About 15 years ago from $300.
Entry fee
for the Open could be a $1,000. Yes, maybe some 'dead wood' or 'newbies' might not play then, but so what? Were they really serious to begin with?
Do they really think they have a shot? Were they just doing it for the experience?
At a $1,0000, the prize money would be decent, and you would have a more serious group of players, and I still think they would get plenty of players.
for the Open could be a $1,000. Yes, maybe some 'dead wood' or 'newbies' might not play then, but so what? Were they really serious to begin with?
Do they really think they have a shot? Were they just doing it for the experience?
At a $1,0000, the prize money would be decent, and you would have a more serious group of players, and I still think they would get plenty of players.
I guess I will be the lone minority on this thread, but I'm gonna say it anyway.
Playing pool is a rich man's high. $500 entry may seem like peanuts to some, but remember, this event begins on a Sunday (players meeting) and ends the next Sunday. That is an 8-day stay in beautiful Chesapeake Beach, Virginia, with a cost of about $3,000 for the entire trip for my camp.
I love the U.S. Open tournament. It's in a beautiful part of the country, and the people in Virginia have that Southern charm, which makes it very welcoming. In 2003, third place paid $10,000. That was a nice chunk of change, coming in third place, but when you add in all the rest of the tournaments a professional tournament solider attends each year, it basically covers expenses for previous events.
I am glad the entry fee if $500 and hope it stays that way. I am pretty sure that most of the actual pool players who do compete in this event feel that same way. In sum, it ain't the entry fee that is so brutal to attend pool events. It is the associate expenses. Week-long tournaments aren't cheap! JMHO, FWIW!
JAM
Playing pool is a rich man's high. $500 entry may seem like peanuts to some, but remember, this event begins on a Sunday (players meeting) and ends the next Sunday. That is an 8-day stay in beautiful Chesapeake Beach, Virginia, with a cost of about $3,000 for the entire trip for my camp.
I love the U.S. Open tournament. It's in a beautiful part of the country, and the people in Virginia have that Southern charm, which makes it very welcoming. In 2003, third place paid $10,000. That was a nice chunk of change, coming in third place, but when you add in all the rest of the tournaments a professional tournament solider attends each year, it basically covers expenses for previous events.
I am glad the entry fee if $500 and hope it stays that way. I am pretty sure that most of the actual pool players who do compete in this event feel that same way. In sum, it ain't the entry fee that is so brutal to attend pool events. It is the associate expenses. Week-long tournaments aren't cheap! JMHO, FWIW!
JAM
JAM said:
I completely agree with you JAM. I sponsor myself into the events I play in through book sales and instruction. I have to sell a lot of books and teach a lot of students to earn $500 - but the truth is that I need 3 times that to make the trip and pay for meals and a room. I'm not complaining, I love what I do. I don't borrow money from others, I don't participate in high stakes gambling, nor am I financed by some high power industry sponsor. As a matter of fact, I don't gamble at all. I don't judge those that do, I just believe that it is important to present myself as an example of a responsible adult to my children - and I do not believe that participating in gambling falls in line with that. That is how I live my life, I am not judging how others live their lives.
Finances will make or break any player. As Kevin Trudeau pointed out many times, players need an environment where they can concentrate on playing, not finances. At almost every event, everybody ends up a loser. The TD's arent making much money. The vendor's usually break even. The player's usually leave the event about $500- $600 in the hole, some more, some less.
FWIW, if they raised the entry to over $750 or to some ridiculous amount of $5000 I would not play. I know many people that are still on rubbery financial legs from paying the $2000 IPT qualifier entries multiple times last year.
If all of this money is floating around with some of these high stakes gamblers with deep pockets, then help out some of the players with all this dough you have instead of woofing with it on the rail. I hope that offends everybody it applies to. That is why the sport hinges upon the flatline, believe it - or not.
Let's also remember, too, that at the IPT event in Vegas, for example, the last-place players received monies just for showing up. I think it was $5,000, but I can't remember now.
The IPT platform was a good one. Pool players have NEVER seen anything quite so elogant as the IPT tournaments. Unfortunately, today, the IPT is dead in the water, and I don't know if it will ever be revived at this juncture. If I were Kevin Trudeau, having invested tens of millions of dollars into pool, reading the negative press, I wouldn't want to continue with the IPT vision. KT's vision was grandeur, but unfortunately, in the words of Wimpy (I think), it was like putting whipped cream on a hot dog.
But I don't want this to get into an pro-versus-con IPT thread. We all know where we stand on this topic.
The U.S. Open is, IMHO, the most sought-after title in the United States. To be a U.S. Open Champion means a lot to every single pool player. They all go to Chesapeake Beach, Virginia, each year in hopes of being number one. The U.S. Open is different than all other tournaments in this respect. The title has merit, especially today, considering the 250-plus player field consists of champion pool players, aspiring pros, veterans, Hall of Famers, roadsters, and amateurs from around the world. EVERYONE is welcome, and there is no political stop signs and hurdles preventing a player to pursue their dreams.
However, it ain't cheap going there. 8 days in one spot is expensive, no matter how you slice it. $500 entry fee is perfect.
JAM
The IPT platform was a good one. Pool players have NEVER seen anything quite so elogant as the IPT tournaments. Unfortunately, today, the IPT is dead in the water, and I don't know if it will ever be revived at this juncture. If I were Kevin Trudeau, having invested tens of millions of dollars into pool, reading the negative press, I wouldn't want to continue with the IPT vision. KT's vision was grandeur, but unfortunately, in the words of Wimpy (I think), it was like putting whipped cream on a hot dog.
But I don't want this to get into an pro-versus-con IPT thread. We all know where we stand on this topic.
The U.S. Open is, IMHO, the most sought-after title in the United States. To be a U.S. Open Champion means a lot to every single pool player. They all go to Chesapeake Beach, Virginia, each year in hopes of being number one. The U.S. Open is different than all other tournaments in this respect. The title has merit, especially today, considering the 250-plus player field consists of champion pool players, aspiring pros, veterans, Hall of Famers, roadsters, and amateurs from around the world. EVERYONE is welcome, and there is no political stop signs and hurdles preventing a player to pursue their dreams.
However, it ain't cheap going there. 8 days in one spot is expensive, no matter how you slice it. $500 entry fee is perfect.
JAM
Purdman
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nineballpaul said:
It has been pointed out to me that only about 45 of the players have a chance of winning the Open. The rest are just there for other reasons. Just the opportunity to play some of the best players is enough for most of them. I had a hard time understanding this myself. I would venture to say that if you raised the entry fee to $1,500 or $2,000, you would have about 50 people play. It is an expensive deal to begin with. Air fare, hotel, food, entry fee, not to mention any action. That's not to mention the top heavy payout. Good luck coming up with 250 people willing to pay $2,000.
You go to $5,000 and you will only have about 15 players. That's the way it is unfortunately.
Purdman
Purdman said:
I think $750 is the right number. Now you can have a $250,000 purse and a $50,000 first prize, worthy of a U.S. Open. But hey, it ain't my tournament.
jam you make a good point,as usual! any weekly event is very expensive. jay thinks another 250 is the right number,i say another 500 and the bottom line is i think we all just want to see players earn more money in the larger events.i have also said that these "qualifiers" the the open(i think $30) should be a little more to also cover expenses.hope i get to the open this year maybe keith and i can have a bud or 5 on meJAM said:
dimes33 said:jam you make a good point,as usual! any weekly event is very expensive. jay thinks another 250 is the right number,i say another 500 and the bottom line is i think we all just want to see players earn more money in the larger events.i have also said that these "qualifiers" the the open(i think $30) should be a little more to also cover expenses.hope i get to the open this year maybe keith and i can have a bud or 5 on me
I will look forward to seeing you there and hope we make it this year. We missed last year's U.S. Open.
I'll be drinking sparking water. I hope Keith will, too, but one never knows!
JAM