2013 AZ Billiards Straight Pool Challenge!

genipool14 said:
Hello. Its my first message. :wave3: I'm Evgeny Buslaev from Russia. Somebody might know me from my youtube channel "genipool14". I tried for a week to run 14.1 in may 2013. And every day I run a hundred. I found this theme and its my high run on video 113 balls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MteK8ymq_do
Also hundreds
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6K_ghQS27Eg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vie6FE8Ck0
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Welcome to AZBilliards. Nice runs to share with the straight pool fanatics here. :thumbup:

Have you ever thought of having the camera face down on the other side of the table? That is where all the action is.
 
Hi. I manageded to brak my (very) old record of 24 balls this july. I made 47 which I'm very happy with. But now next stop is 50!
 
dmgwalsh said:
Have you ever thought of having the camera face down on the other side of the table? That is where all the action is.
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I suppose their setup is limited (maybe a wall-mount camera). So another idea could be racking on the other side of the table, to move that action closer to the cam.
 
dmgwalsh said:
Welcome to AZBilliards. Nice runs to share with the straight pool fanatics here. :thumbup:

Have you ever thought of having the camera face down on the other side of the table? That is where all the action is.
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Vahmurka said:
I suppose their setup is limited (maybe a wall-mount camera). So another idea could be racking on the other side of the table, to move that action closer to the cam.
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Then if he did that -- rack at the opposite end of the table -- his runs would be "backwards." A 113 would become a 311. Wait... you know something? That sounds like a great idea!

:p
-Sean
 
michael4 said:
If you rack while the key ball is still on the table, you will need to put an "asterisk" next to your high run post :thumbup::D
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iusedtoberich said:
LOL. I saw the remaining ball before I made it to the rack:)
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I think Steve Kurtz has a funny story about one time he practiced with Danny Barouty, and Steve inadvertently started to rack with the key and break balls still on the table. Danny, in his NY'er dry wit, opines, "Steve, we're playing 14.1, not 13.2."

:p
-Sean
 
sfleinen said:
While this would normally be a very nice run, it was done on a barbox, and IMHO, this 110 should not be listed on the AZB Straight Pool Challenge. (It currently and inappropriately occupies the #11 slot on the list.)

If this run would've been accomplished on the OP's new 10-footer, absolutely. But on a barbox? Heck no. Otherwise, this is unfair to the rest of the folks posting runs here, in the spirit of the AZB Straight Pool Challenge, who are playing on equipment considered standard for straight pool (i.e. 9-footer).

IMHO, of course.
-Sean
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Sean, obviously you think a barbox is easier for 14.1. I suggest you give it a try and compare your high run on one to your high run on a 9'. (if you want to get picky, anything other than a 10' table can be considered non-standard for 14.1. That's what they played on for many years.)
 
Neil said:
Sean, obviously you think a barbox is easier for 14.1. I suggest you give it a try and compare your high run on one to your high run on a 9'. (if you want to get picky, anything other than a 10' table can be considered non-standard for 14.1. That's what they played on for many years.)
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I know a common argument is the clusters are much greater on a barbox and that will hamper 14.1.

There was a post by John Schmidt a few years back where he said something to the affect that he tried a Diamond BB once and ran something like 200 on his first try. He thought it was actually easier than a 9' table, due to the increased accuracy afforded by the shorter shots. I'm paraphrasing, but the post was something like that. I will try to find it.

Edit: I searched and couldn't find his post. Needle in a haystack, lol.
 
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iusedtoberich said:
I know a common argument is the clusters are much greater on a barbox and that will hamper 14.1.

There was a post by John Schmidt a few years back where he said something to the affect that he tried a Diamond BB once and ran something like 200 on his first try. He thought it was actually easier than a 9' table, due to the increased accuracy afforded by the shorter shots. I'm paraphrasing, but the post was something like that. I will try to find it.

Edit: I searched and couldn't find his post. Needle in a haystack, lol.
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http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=110368&highlight=easier+barbox


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iusedtoberich said:
I know a common argument is the clusters are much greater on a barbox and that will hamper 14.1.

There was a post by John Schmidt a few years back where he said something to the affect that he tried a Diamond BB once and ran something like 200 on his first try. He thought it was actually easier than a 9' table, due to the increased accuracy afforded by the shorter shots. I'm paraphrasing, but the post was something like that. I will try to find it.

Edit: I searched and couldn't find his post. Needle in a haystack, lol.
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For a top pro with fantastic cb control, it probably is easier. For the general public without that cb control, it's a different matter altogether.
 
Neil said:
For a top pro with fantastic cb control, it probably is easier. For the general public without that cb control, it's a different matter altogether.
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Maybe. I haven't seen anything conclusive either way reported by anyone.

I don't have first hand experience on a non 9' table playing straight pool. I do know that the few times I practiced 9 ball on an 8' table, I thought it was way easier. I don't play on 7' tables at all. It would be an interesting experiment. I think I'd do better on an 8 and 7 foot table practicing straight. Maybe one day I'll try and keep statistics, in order to report back to the group.
 
Neil said:
Sean, obviously you think a barbox is easier for 14.1. I suggest you give it a try and compare your high run on one to your high run on a 9'. (if you want to get picky, anything other than a 10' table can be considered non-standard for 14.1. That's what they played on for many years.)
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Neil:

I absolute DO think it's easier, and here's a thread describing a 143 I ran on a barbox when I was visiting my folks (in Denver) over a Christmas holiday, at a place called Greenfields Pool & Sports Bar (a regional APA hangout -- wall-to-wall barboxes):

http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=2807772#post2807772

I'm far from demeaning 14.1 on a barbox; in fact, I think it's slap-happy fun. You can really BLAST breakshots, as long as you control whitey. Whereas one finds spinning whitey out into blank areas of the table are helpful on 9-footers, you want to use stun shots with whitey on barboxes -- and really lay into them to get a good spread while controlling the cue ball's travel. Spinning whitey on barboxes is disastrous, because with the increased pocket-to-rail ratio (more pocket vs rail on a barbox than on a 9-footer), whitey always seems to find a pocket. ;)

Anyway, I stand by my stance that 14.1 is easier on a barbox, assuming you know the conditions and how to deal with them.

-Sean
 
7', 8' & 9'

In my opinion if a player plays on a 9' table all the time (like myself). That player can move down to a smaller table such as a 7' or 8' table finding it easier no matter what the game. Much, much easier playing 14.1 on a BB and clusters are no problem at all.
Now, on the other hand. A player that plays on a 7' or a 8' table all the time, will have problems moving up to a 9' table.
I do believe that I would have problems moving up to a 10' table
 
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:scratchhead::scratchhead: just wondering what the cash payout is for coming in 66th place this year?

Or do I have to be in the top 50 to be in the money? ;)
 
Just ran a 138 :O

As far as table size is concerned I haven't attempted much on a 7 footer. There is one in my area at my buddies house so I don't get much chance to let rip on one. And its quite cramped at his so its all the more tougher. The chances I have had to let rip I haven't hit over 50. That's down to being jacked up from lack of space mostly. If I had room to work with and a 7' table at hand I'd fancy my chances of pushing 200.

9 footers are the norm for me, I play at home on mine most days so its what I'm used to. I'd love to have a chance on a 10' table, but I know of none in the country :(
 
Agree with the *pals* here.
The lesser distance makes a big difference- i started on an 8ft table. And played almost 2-3 on such tables- also in leagues. When we then had the chance to play daily on 9ft tables....man! That was such a difference^^.
On smaller tables usually you have no problem with shotmaking. Here the 9ft is another world- - and if we then would talk about 10ft table, you have to take care A LOT to play routes perfectly. You have of course more room-- but the distance is brutal-and you have to pay attention very often that you can reach the cueball nicley. Very underestimated :-)
 
Ran 71 and out last night on an 8-footer. Am particularly proud of this one becase it was absolutely textbook! Every break except the last was a classic side of the rack shot where I was no farther than a couple feet away, I never banked a ball, and the cue ball traveled more than a few feet only twice. I feel like that 100 is definitely within reach! (PLEASE God!)
 
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