2014 World 9-Ball Championship

Does anyone understand the colors in the brackets? They've got brown, blue, and yellow, but they don't seem to indicate country or anything else I can figure out.
 
Does anyone understand the colors in the brackets? They've got brown, blue, and yellow, but they don't seem to indicate country or anything else I can figure out.

Yellow most certainly means that they qualified by going through Stage 1.

Other than that, I'm uncertain. Blue seems to represent "high ranking" players, and the brown are "the rest".
 
Does anyone understand the colors in the brackets? They've got brown, blue, and yellow, but they don't seem to indicate country or anything else I can figure out.

yellow - came from the qualifying round (stage 1)
 
I think Shane played well today -- 5 B&R's on 10 breaks (50%); several nice safeties, 5 missed shots in the 17 games where he went to the table (Chang had 3 B&R's), and 2 fouls on missed kicks. What, unfortunately, sticks in the memory banks is that two of the misses were an easy 8-ball and an easy 9-ball.


Man all Shane B&R were cosmo layout, can't say he played good, for me he was far below his A game. Chang on the other hand played well, better than Shane imo but had too many bad rolls especially on the break, he fought hard with some amazing shot.
Anyway, that's how it is, today is Shane's day, and I hope this tourney is his also, but he really gonna need to bring up his A game.
We seem forget about the little Wu Jiaqing but he's there put on a clinic vs Lo Li Wen. He will be the man to beat along with Ko Pin Yi and Darren Appleton.
 
... We seem forget about the little Wu Jiaqing but he's there put on a clinic vs Lo Li Wen. He will be the man to beat along with Ko Pin Yi and Darren Appleton.

If SVB and Wu win 2 more matches, they'll meet in the quarterfinals (last matches tomorrow). Maybe Shane would be in a good frame of mind for that, as he defeated Wu 11-7 just 2½ weeks ago in the China Open.
 
Don't forget that the Pinoys are still out there. Without Alex P and Orcullo, Carlo Biado is now a strong contender in the upper group along with Appleton. Young Johann Chua is also very talented and has nothing to lose. He along with Gabica maybe considered dark horses.
 
I think Shane played well today -- 5 B&R's on 10 breaks (50%); several nice safeties, 5 missed shots in the 17 games where he went to the table (Chang had 3 B&R's), and 2 fouls on missed kicks. What, unfortunately, sticks in the memory banks is that two of the misses were an easy 8-ball and an easy 9-ball.

The eight ball "miss" was a pocketed ball that bounced out of the pocket. Who plays for that possibility when shape on the next ball is a consideration? How would Accustats record this shot? I think it would not be included in the stats as a make or a miss.
 
2014 world 9 ball championship

I am unable to watch Souquet when he plays a match he will look at the shot for 5 minutes and then he would play a stupid shot

Happy that Ramil Galiego won his match against Ralph Souquet


Its like watching Paint Dry
 
In action, the money tells the truth.
If Shane played Peach a long set, how many people would bet on Peach?
If Shane gave the 8, how many people would bet on Peach?

all of these idiots know that, they just like to pretend they know pool. Saying Shane isn't a world champion is just silly when NONE of the guys in this tourney will play Shane a long race for the cash. Darren himself said that nobody in the world could beat Shane in a long race of 10-ball and I'd contend that nobody could handle him in 9-ball either for the cheese, but we will probably never find out because NONE OF THEM WILL PLAY HIM.

It astonishes me how none of these clowns understand variance and why these short race, alternate break formats will never decide who the better player is for the most part. There is so much luck involved and any one of these caliber players could win. If you make it winner break and a race to 21 then you immediately pair it down to about a quarter of them that have a real chance and if you make it race to 50 then you take it down to only a handful.
 
http://www.qbsf.qa/en/downloads/2014/2014_W9BC_Final_round_format.pdf

Today will go down in World Pool Championship history as biggest slaughter of world champions (either 8b, 9b , 10b or straight pool) . :)
These 11 world champs were eliminated today
Orcullo
Chang Jung Lin
Karl Boyes
Daryl Peach
Alex
Mika
Ortmann
Hohmann
Souquet
Huidji See -World 10b Champ
Jason Shaw- World English 8b (Blackball) Champ

Only 3 world champs remain (P.S. Shane is not world champ yet so he is excluded :) ):
Appleton
Wu
Neils Feijen -World Straight Pool Champ

Of the remaining last 32
-Of the 20+ top seeds, onlly 11 remain
-Of the 15 qualifiers from stage 1, 6 remain
So you can say out of 32 only 11 (34%) are notable players. The majority of 21 (66%) are less famous players, strugglers, unknowns, nobodies.
That high % of less famous can only be good for game.

Don't forget that Stephan Cohen is a former World 14.1 Champion. He's still in the mix.
 
Damnit...

all of these idiots know that, they just like to pretend they know pool. Saying Shane isn't a world champion is just silly when NONE of the guys in this tourney will play Shane a long race for the cash. Darren himself said that nobody in the world could beat Shane in a long race of 10-ball and I'd contend that nobody could handle him in 9-ball either for the cheese, but we will probably never find out because NONE OF THEM WILL PLAY HIM.

It astonishes me how none of these clowns understand variance and why these short race, alternate break formats will never decide who the better player is for the most part. There is so much luck involved and any one of these caliber players could win. If you make it winner break and a race to 21 then you immediately pair it down to about a quarter of them that have a real chance and if you make it race to 50 then you take it down to only a handful.

I have to spread the reputation around.... I guess I need to go on a repping spree...

Jaden
 
The Tournament Information page of the QBSF website for this event says they are using (or planned to use, when that page was written) a shot clock:

"A shot clock will be automatically introduced to each match at the half way stage, either by the time allocated for a match or by the match score, whichever occurs first. The time allowed for each shot is 40 seconds, with a warning given at 30 seconds. Each player will be allowed one extension per rack. There will be no shot clock used for the final game once a match reaches the hill-hill stage."

Has anyone seen any indication of a shot clock being used?

I seen a ref put a shot clock on a table at one of the mandatory 9-game break points; however, I never seen him or anyone else use them. I'm not saying they didn't, just that I didn't see it actually being used.
 
The eight ball "miss" was a pocketed ball that bounced out of the pocket. Who plays for that possibility when shape on the next ball is a consideration? How would Accustats record this shot? I think it would not be included in the stats as a make or a miss.

Really? I didn't notice that. It hit the bottom or back of the pocket and came back on the table? I don't recall anyone on chat mentioning that either.

In any event, I think it would be counted as a miss by Accu-Stats, and a made ball for the opponent (after he made it).
 
all of these idiots know that, they just like to pretend they know pool. Saying Shane isn't a world champion is just silly when NONE of the guys in this tourney will play Shane a long race for the cash. Darren himself said that nobody in the world could beat Shane in a long race of 10-ball and I'd contend that nobody could handle him in 9-ball either for the cheese, but we will probably never find out because NONE OF THEM WILL PLAY HIM.

It astonishes me how none of these clowns understand variance and why these short race, alternate break formats will never decide who the better player is for the most part. There is so much luck involved and any one of these caliber players could win. If you make it winner break and a race to 21 then you immediately pair it down to about a quarter of them that have a real chance and if you make it race to 50 then you take it down to only a handful.

Broken record with you. Money matches don't make a world champion. Playing world class players in a tournament format makes world champions.
 
all of these idiots know that, they just like to pretend they know pool. Saying Shane isn't a world champion is just silly when NONE of the guys in this tourney will play Shane a long race for the cash. Darren himself said that nobody in the world could beat Shane in a long race of 10-ball and I'd contend that nobody could handle him in 9-ball either for the cheese, but we will probably never find out because NONE OF THEM WILL PLAY HIM.

It astonishes me how none of these clowns understand variance and why these short race, alternate break formats will never decide who the better player is for the most part. There is so much luck involved and any one of these caliber players could win. If you make it winner break and a race to 21 then you immediately pair it down to about a quarter of them that have a real chance and if you make it race to 50 then you take it down to only a handful.

These players practice and train for short races, which are the races that have, quite logically, determined the world champions for nearly a century. Short race events require sustained excellence match after match, not sporadic otherworldly performance. Players like Shane and Niels have won lots and lots of titles and both are future Hall of Famers, but without a WPA World Championship in a rotation pool game, their resumes are a buck short and their names are unworthy of mention with the all-time greats. The great ones are the ones that prevail over the very toughest fields which, in our sport, are found at the WPA World Championship events.

I'm no more interested in who'd win a long race than I am in who'd win a 100 mile race against the men's Olympic Marathon champion Stephen Kiprotich. The marathon champion doesn't train for 100 miles, and of course, why would he? In marathoning, a sport which has always dictated that excellence will be measured over 26.2 miles, he's got no more reason to train for 100 than the pro pool player has to train for a race to 100.

I'd like to see Shane break through this week. Of course, if he doesn't, I look forward to hearing from his countless apologists here on the forum. I can think of several reasons that Shane should win. The deck is not stacked against anybody in this event, and the eventual champion will have played continually phenomenal pool.
 
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In action, the money tells the truth.
If Shane played Peach a long set, how many people would bet on Peach?
If Shane gave the 8, how many people would bet on Peach?

Last time I checked pool tournaments are short races ,, I don't care who's best at a race to 100 anymore than I care who's a better tennis player after 25 sets ,, ,, i
So Shane's better when the other player is bored or falling asleep ,BFD , it's irrelevant on who's the best in world championship tournament play


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all of these idiots know that, they just like to pretend they know pool. Saying Shane isn't a world champion is just silly when NONE of the guys in this tourney will play Shane a long race for the cash. Darren himself said that nobody in the world could beat Shane in a long race of 10-ball and I'd contend that nobody could handle him in 9-ball either for the cheese, but we will probably never find out because NONE OF THEM WILL PLAY HIM.



It astonishes me how none of these clowns understand variance and why these short race, alternate break formats will never decide who the better player is for the most part. There is so much luck involved and any one of these caliber players could win. If you make it winner break and a race to 21 then you immediately pair it down to about a quarter of them that have a real chance and if you make it race to 50 then you take it down to only a handful.


So who say winner break gonna decide who's better ? It's because we all play that, because it's traditional doesnt mean it's the only right format to play the game.
And Noone, noone deny the fact that Shane is one of the best in the world playing long race. So you don't need to defend him, we all agree about that. Then what ? If you never win a world champion, you are not a world champion despite the fact that he's better than few world champion outthere.
And you know what, he's still lacking something, I didn't see a world beater today, he didn't have the aura that I saw many many times in those world champions, something special.
 
Kozoom put up this poll asking viewers to vote on who they would like to see on the feature table (T1) where there are better camera angles. If you'd like to choose, just click the pic below:
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