2024 World 8 Ball Championship (2-8 Sep), New Zealand , Winner $75K

Down to last 4 on Saturday. Good money (in pool terms)-Men semifinalists guaranteed $22K while women guaranteed $15K.

Haha, Filler is inform unstoppable, looks like he wants to win this badly after recent brouhaha ;)
The giantkiller this event is Ryan Hsu, Fargo 770s not even in top 100 lowest of the last 4. Spectacular performance from the spectacled Hsu so far beating 3x800s Biado, Mario He, Fortunski. He will play Marco Teutscher whom he beat in World 10B earlier this year so he may make the final.
If he somehow "fluke" wins this title, he will be longest shot to win a World pool title this millennium. Yes even longer shot than Daryl Peach & Yukio winning W9B and Huidji See winning W10B.

Men World 10 Ball (starts 8pm local NZ time/ 2am Eastern)
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Women World 9 Ball (starts 10am local NZ time/6pm Eastern)
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The giantkiller this event is Ryan Hsu, Fargo 770s not even in top 100 lowest of the last 4. Spectacular performance from the spectacled Hsu so far beating 3x800s Biado, Mario He, Fortunski. He will play Marco Teutscher whom he beat in World 10B earlier this year so he may make the final.
If he somehow "fluke" wins this title, he will be longest shot to win a World pool title this millennium.
In the first full year of competition in his career, a fellow I'd never even heard of won the WPA World 9-ball title in 2003. I'm still in a state of shock that he managed to beat a) 2002 silver medalist Francisco Bustamante in the quarterfinal, b) 2002 gold medalist Earl Strickland in the semifinal and c) the soon to be 2004 World Champion Alex Pagulayan in the final. His name was Thorsten Hohmann, and no Cinderella ever had so tall a task in winning a world championship.

Can't say I've ever been more amazed in a WPA sanctioned world championship than in 2003.
 
Darren Appleton giving his thoughts on Predator event with longg post :LOL: https://www.facebook.com/darren.app...wnjNMPaNuvpAXybWZRDwUt9a65apeFaASVyABbTBaQKTl


Kristina Zlateva :ROFLMAO:
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I agree with most of Darren's points, except:

-I prefer winner break.
-I as a fan FAR prefer 30 sec shot clocks. Darren should understand that the only way to get prize money up for pro's is to have more fans. 45 sec shot clocks are too long. Players should learn to play faster to get paid more. Its their job.
 
Also to follow up on Kristina's picture, here is the final count on that match. I personally don't like the mulit-set format, but it does pan out (usually) that the winner of the match won more individual games. Here, Siming won decidedly more games.

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I agree with most of Darren's points, except:

-I prefer winner break.
-I as a fan FAR prefer 30 sec shot clocks. Darren should understand that the only way to get prize money up for pro's is to have more fans. 45 sec shot clocks are too long. Players should learn to play faster to get paid more. Its their job.
I do think the way rankings are done is odd and unfair. A player's total record should be taken into account. The payouts are also too top heavy.

I am somewhat agnostic on winner break. Lean more toward than not, though, because alternate break would lengthen matches. Fans just aren't going to want to watch 3 hour plus matches all the time. Tennis can get away with it to some extent, but no other sport.

A 30-second shot clock is not going away. Nor should it.
 
I agree with most of Darren's points, except:

-I prefer winner break.
-I as a fan FAR prefer 30 sec shot clocks. Darren should understand that the only way to get prize money up for pro's is to have more fans. 45 sec shot clocks are too long. Players should learn to play faster to get paid more. Its their job.

i couldn't get through it all. but break format is not black and white. it depends on how tough the game/table is and race length. 8-ball should always be alternate break imo. in 9-ball i think in short races (like mosconi) or on very soft tables, alternate break is needed.

as for the slug racks in this event, i've come to like them as a fan. filler would run the set out without them. and i don't think they're unfair, because both players have the same incompetent ref with the same wonky triangle.
 
I agree with most of Darren's points, except:

-I prefer winner break.
-I as a fan FAR prefer 30 sec shot clocks. Darren should understand that the only way to get prize money up for pro's is to have more fans. 45 sec shot clocks are too long. Players should learn to play faster to get paid more. Its their job.
To quote from Grady Matthews "if you can't figure out what to do in thirty seconds, maybe you should be doing something else for a living."

We live in a world in which the players do not look out for the marketability of the professional pool product, and, in fairness to them, it is not and should not be their responsibility. It is the event producer's role to keep pro pool entertaining, and routinely allowing players more than thirty seconds for a shot would make the game less entertaining.

Heaven forbid any event producer that will bend to the whims of a few players and increase the amount of time on the shot clock.
 
i couldn't get through it all. but break format is not black and white. it depends on how tough the game/table is and race length. 8-ball should always be alternate break imo. in 9-ball i think in short races (like mosconi) or on very soft tables, alternate break is needed.

as for the slug racks in this event, i've come to like them as a fan. filler would run the set out without them. and i don't think they're unfair, because both players have the same incompetent ref with the same wonky triangle.
I can't stand 8 ball, and didn't watch any of it. I did watch a bit of the women's 9 ball though. There, the rack was horrible because the 9 kept flying to the bottom corner. The triangle rack should be burned from pool. The template racks really are 100x better.
 
Darren Appleton giving his thoughts on Predator event with longg post :LOL: https://www.facebook.com/darren.app...wnjNMPaNuvpAXybWZRDwUt9a65apeFaASVyABbTBaQKTl
I can't help but wonder if his story would be the same if he was still finishing in the top 4-8 in a majority of tournaments he entered. He does have a point about matchroom, their payouts are extremely top-heavy. Not many players are going to make a decent living at matchroom events any time soon. If they start getting bigger payouts, hopefully it won't continue to be just the top 4 or 5 players making all of the money.

I don't care what anyone says, 9 ball should ALWAYS be winner break with at minimum a 30 second shot clock. Otherwise just call it what it would be, 10 ball. That is the fundamental essence of 9 ball, break and run packages, hoping to see flawless runouts of entire sets. This crap they are turning it into is essentially 10 ball, which is not TV worthy, lest they forget.
 
I can't help but wonder if his story would be the same if he was still finishing in the top 4-8 in a majority of tournaments he entered. He does have a point about matchroom, their payouts are extremely top-heavy. Not many players are going to make a decent living at matchroom events any time soon. If they start getting bigger payouts, hopefully it won't continue to be just the top 4 or 5 players making all of the money.

I don't care what anyone says, 9 ball should ALWAYS be winner break with at minimum a 30 second shot clock. Otherwise just call it what it would be, 10 ball. That is the fundamental essence of 9 ball, break and run packages, hoping to see flawless runouts of entire sets. This crap they are turning it into is essentially 10 ball, which is not TV worthy, lest they forget.

i think predator is more top heavy than MR?
 
I must be the only person who prefers sets.

It means more matches are closer.

If a player is losing 8-0 then I turn off the TV.

If a player loses the first 2 sets by 4-0, they still have a chance of winning.
 
Siming vs Amit in the finals in about 1 hour.

The semi was again determined by the "should go in the dumpster" triangle rack. The 9 flew towards the corner again on the last rack, leading to a hanger 3-9 combo.

The Japanese company "Magic Ball Rack" solved all the racking issues 15 years ago. Now for who knows why Predator had to go and make a triangle rack, and bring back all that racking drama.
 
Siming vs Amit in the finals in about 1 hour.

The semi was again determined by the "should go in the dumpster" triangle rack. The 9 flew towards the corner again on the last rack, leading to a hanger 3-9 combo.

The Japanese company "Magic Ball Rack" solved all the racking issues 15 years ago. Now for who knows why Predator had to go and make a triangle rack, and bring back all that racking drama.

predator could never peddle templates. too little profit and can't fit a big enough cat on it
 
The giantkiller this event is Ryan Hsu, Fargo 770s not even in top 100 lowest of the last 4. Spectacular performance from the spectacled Hsu so far beating 3x800s Biado, Mario He, Fortunski. He will play Marco Teutscher whom he beat in World 10B earlier this year so he may make the final.
If he somehow "fluke" wins this title, he will be longest shot to win a World pool title this millennium. Yes even longer shot than Daryl Peach & Yukio winning W9B and Huidji See winning W10B.

this is the first time i see him play. he is up 3-0 with zero mistakes, including pattern mishaps or dry breaks
 
jinxed him. scratched on the 8. score 3-1.

either way, this guy is a good pattern player. i suspect he plays straight pool
 
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