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Not a cortland sorry. Looks like a dirty Blue Mountain to me. Hurlbert looks similar as well but definitely not a cortland.
It's pretty close. Cortland green speck is very subtle. It created a looser color pattern when wrapped. I think yours might be Blue Mountain Irish Linen, which Palmer also used a little later. I have some cues with wraps that look exactly like yours too.
You could email Richard with some pics and ask him. If you know what year the cue was built, be can probably easily tell you. It's not as easy to tell after it's aged.
Here's some pics of an original Cortland line wrap Palmer:
You could email Richard with some pics and ask him. If you know what year the cue was built, be can probably easily tell you. It's not as easy to tell after it's aged.
Here's some pics of an original Cortland line wrap Palmer:
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While I can't comment on whether or not you have a Cortland wrap, I agree about Cortland being Irish Linen. I haven't had a Cortland wrapped cue since the mid '70s. It definitely has a different feel to it and a different appearance. I have a cue wrapped with Irish Linen that was built in 1993 and the linen is different than what I've seen today, especially from production line cue makers.
I greatly appreciate everyone who responded. Very helpful. I knew I would find my answer here. Thanks guys.
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On the Cortland Web site, they have a saying:
If you have fond memories of Cortland, you're probably not a fish.
That and cue makers and players. They didn't mention them.
They had stated that they can and will make any custom line for you.
Which made me wonder why cue makers hadn't been in contact with them. Unless, one would have to purchase a huge dollar order to make it happen.
The Company is 99 yrs old so would think that they would still have the specs for making the old line.
Would newly made Cortland line not have the romance that the old line did?
I had emailed them at least 3 times with no return answer.
If you have fond memories of Cortland, you're probably not a fish.
That and cue makers and players. They didn't mention them.
They had stated that they can and will make any custom line for you.
Which made me wonder why cue makers hadn't been in contact with them. Unless, one would have to purchase a huge dollar order to make it happen.
The Company is 99 yrs old so would think that they would still have the specs for making the old line.
Would newly made Cortland line not have the romance that the old line did?
I had emailed them at least 3 times with no return answer.
The company that made Courtland line has been out of business for many years.
In the 1970's when I heard they were going out of business because Dacron line was better for Commercial fishing I contacted Blue Mountain to get a replacement.
The Courtland line was cable layed. That meant that all 6 strands were twisted at the same time. One strand was light green.
Blue Mountain could not produce cable layed linen so we came up with a compromise. We used 3 twisted pairs with one strand of one pair green.
That accounts for the different appearance. The Flax that is the background of the linen varies from year to year so the color could be lighter or darker.
I placed the first order for 500 lbs. I kept 50 lbs sold 50 lbs each to Joss Cues, Black, Gina, Szamboti and the rest went to Viking and McDermott. Price was 9 dollars a pound.
Bill S.
I thought that the Cortland # 9 as I heard it meant, that there were three strands of three woven into one strand , 3x3, hence being called # 9.
This made sense when I heard it and still does , is this wrong? Thanks in advance for any replies.
This made sense when I heard it and still does , is this wrong? Thanks in advance for any replies.
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The original boxes of Cortland (note the spelling, not Courtland) wrote 9 Thread, 27 Pound, which was the test strength, wet.
My understanding is there were 9 threads, 8 of which were white, and 1 green, hence the number 9. If each thread was made up of a 3X3 weaving, the theory would work, but there was also a Cortland number 12, which was 36 test pounds. It would be interesting to know if the individual weaving is the key, but there is no even square root of 12. That would have to be something like 4X3, so I'm not sure. I think the number just referred to the number of threads, not the weaving. But perhaps there is another explanation.
