39" butt feeler

Spooled

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I'd like to experiment w a 70" cue. Is it possible to have a 15oz butt this long? I'd be willing to drop a $100 if someone could make this w a unilock joint. Totally plain Jane just wanna try the length so really nothing fancy. Anyone ever tried this or seen pics?

Ps I know the title is funny.
 
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I'd like to experiment w a 70" cue. Is it possible to have a 15oz butt this long? I'd be willing to drop a $100 if someone could make this w a unilock joint. Totally plain Jane just wanna try the length so really nothing fancy. Anyone ever tried this or seen pics?

Ps I know the title is funny.

I think you will find that most Cuemakers will be falling all over themselves to build this cue. At this price ($100) I could make them exclusively until I went out of business -- probably take about 2 weeks.
 
I'd like to experiment w a 70" cue. Is it possible to have a 15oz butt this long? I'd be willing to drop a $100 if someone could make this w a unilock joint. Totally plain Jane just wanna try the length so really nothing fancy. Anyone ever tried this or seen pics?

Ps I know the title is funny.

Pricing aside, Your best bet might be trying to get someone to build you an extension that would fit on an existing butt.
 
I think you will find that most Cuemakers will be falling all over themselves to build this cue. At this price ($100) I could make them exclusively until I went out of business -- probably take about 2 weeks.

$2.56 PER INCH :thumbup:
 
look you guys i want a peice of wood that is ~39' long w a unilock pin.
is that really worh more than a $100?
i THOUGHT I WAS PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT IT BEING NOTHING FANCY
really a peice of dowel at the proper taper would work and I was also looking for info on very long cues
 
Don't take it personally.... most wouldn't be able to figure out how to do it with their 36" lathes anyway... if they even had a piece of wood that long.
$100 isn't out of line at all.
 
look you guys i want a peice of wood that is ~39' long w a unilock pin.
is that really worh more than a $100?
i THOUGHT I WAS PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT IT BEING NOTHING FANCY
really a peice of dowel at the proper taper would work and I was also looking for info on very long cues

NO, no, your right. It is not worth $100.00. Cuemakers just charge 3x's that much because they can get away with it. Your right. A good cuemaker should be able to make a cue 10" longer than normal, with the same joint size as a 29" butt and same handle size, figure out a new balance point and make it weigh in at about 15oz no problem. Some of them may have to buy a different lathe as theirs are only 36" between centers but, for $100.00, I can't see why they would not do that. I wonder what type of wood "a piece of dowel" is and what it might cost but surely not more than $1.00 or $2.00. The unilock pins from Atlas are CHEAP to buy and finish and a bumper, weight bolt, balance bolt and several hours of time should only cost about $49.00.. in China.
Those that have responded are trying to tell you that your request is out of line and unreasonable. While the idea may be of interest the time alone to make this is worth more than the $100.00.
Good luck.

Bob Danielson
www.bdcuesandcomix.com
 
look you guys i want a peice of wood that is ~39' long w a unilock pin.
is that really worh more than a $100?
i THOUGHT I WAS PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT IT BEING NOTHING FANCY
really a peice of dowel at the proper taper would work and I was also looking for info on very long cues

This isn't rocket science - the time I spend on this project is time I
don't spend making a real cue.

Buy the cheapest sneaky you can find on fleabay - then have a repair
person attach a 10" piece to the back end.

Dale
 
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To: Spooled

I will treat you seriously here, your original proposal is very naive, but it may be sincere.
You are curious how a much longer cue will play, so you want to try one, nothing wrong with that. You want all the extra length to be made in the butt. Now that causes issues to start with. It is the heaviest, thickest piece of lumber, yet you want to hold it down to 15 oz. Ten inches more wood, a third more plus in length, and hold it to the same weight as a normal 29 inch butt. Hmmmmmm. Well lets assume we use a real piece of crap light wood. Will it balance and hit like we want a cue that we make in normal lengths? Will it hit with the same feel and authority? So in other words will you really be able to make an intelligent decision about the value of making a "real" cue 70 inches long? Assuming this butt is not going to be your player, only an experiment. Not likely. And a comment was made about not being able to turn a hunk of lumber that long. It is valid, Would you own a lathe a foot longer than you had to unless you happened to have it given to you, or it was a bargain you could not resist?. There may be someone out there that can do this, yah never know.
To cut a taper that long and hold everything true would be a huge task. I know I spent months getting my tapering system working right. Just changing my large metal lathe adjustments to cut your butt, then resetting everything back to normal is worth more than any profit from the $100 to me. Let alone knowing I made something that may split because it is light weak wood, or maybe warp because I needed a year to season a long piece, and cannot afford to make a " one of" like that. We season wood over years, then have to use the warpers as firewood, or inlay slabs. SO if I season a piece for you, I had better season two in case one warps. And using a rather expensive joint cuts a lot more profit out of it.
Do we have to apply a clearcoat finish to it? Well I can handle 32 inches in my spray booth, another conundrum to overcome. And if anything goes wrong when the owner of this "simple" experiment uses it under whatever conditions he exposes it to, then it is the unlucky cuemaker that must not know his craft, because it was a simple job after all.
SO if you want an unseasoned hunk of light wood with a joint in it, and no decent finish on it, maybe a brushed on floor finish, and no expectation that it will not warp or crack, or even come close to feeling like a real cue should when you attempt to actually use it, yeah someone might make a very few dollars making this one of butt. But: most likely it will not play any better than putting one of those popular cue extensions on your current butt and just play with it!
I gave you a serious answer, with maybe some overtones, but serious none the less. Maybe you can better understand what you asked of for of your $100. Like I said earlier your request is quite naive, but, unless you have made a cue yourself, how could your really know? SO I am not trying to disrespect you at all. Is it a gravy train, and you are exposing it to the world??? OMG, now that is funny. I can make more money as a greeter at WalMart. And I agree with Arnot here: Sheldon may be your man. He seems interested. It is a challenge. He may even want to throw in a case for it? Yeah, I am just ribbing him. He and Arnot are good people.
You caught me with this in the wee hours. I woke up at 545 and saw the latest responses and felt compelled to write. Hey I already lost money on this job just writing this!
 
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I will treat you seriously here, your original proposal is very naive, but it may be sincere.
You are curious how a much longer cue will play, so you want to try one, nothing wrong with that. You want all the extra length to be made in the butt. Now that causes issues to start with. It is the heaviest, thickest piece of lumber, yet you want to hold it down to 15 oz. Ten inches more wood, a third more plus in length, and hold it to the same weight as a normal 29 inch butt. Hmmmmmm. Well lets assume we use a real piece of crap light wood. Will it balance and hit like we want a cue that we make in normal lengths? Will it hit with the same feel and authority? So in other words will you really be able to make an intelligent decision about the value of making a "real" cue 70 inches long? Assuming this butt is not going to be your player, only an experiment. Not likely. And a comment was made about not being able to turn a hunk of lumber that long. It is valid, Would you own a lathe a foot longer than you had to unless you happened to have it given to you, or it was a bargain you could not resist?. Ther may be someone out there that can do this, yah never know.
To cut a taper that long and hold everything true would be a huge task. I know I spent months getting my tapering system working right. Just changing my large metal lathe adjustments to cut your butt, then resetting everything back to normal is worth more than any profit from the $100 to me. Let alone knowing I made something that may split because it is light weak wood, or maybe warp because I need a year to season a long piece and cannot afford to make a " one of" like that. We season wood over years, then have to use the warpers as firewood, or inlay slabs. SO if I season a piece for you, I had better season two in case one warps. And using a rather expensive joint cuts a lot more profit out of it.
Do we have to apply a clearcoat finish to it? Well I can handle 32 inches in my spray booth, another conundrum to overcome. And if anything goes wrong when the owner of this "simple" experiment uses it under whatever conditions he exposes it to, then it is the unlucky cuemaker that must not know his craft because it was a simple job after all.
SO if you want an unseasoned hunk of light wood with a joint in it, and no decent finish on it, maybe a brushed on floor finish, and no expectation that it will not warp or crack, or even come close to feeling like a real cue should when you attempt to actually use it, yeah someone might make a very few dollars making this one of butt. But: most likely it will not play any better than putting one of those popular cue extensions on your current butt and just play with it!
I gave you a serious answer, with maybe some overtones, but serious none the less. Maybe you can better understand what you asked of for of your $100. Like I said earlier your request is quite naive, but unless you have made a cue yourself, how could your really know? SO I am not trying to disrespect you at all. Is it a gravy train and you are exposing it to the world??? OMG now that is funny. I can make more money as a greeter at WalMart. And I agree with Dickie here: Sheldon may be your man. He seems interested. It is a challenge. He may even want to throw in a case for it? Yeah, I am just ribbing him. He and Dickie are good people.
You caught me with this in the wee hours. I woke up at 545 and saw the latest responses and felt compelled to write. Hey I already lost money on this job!


Is that a yes or a no???? lmao


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Kim
 
lou, you better get another cup of coffee in you buddy
did you just call arnot dickie??? :D



And I agree with Dickie here: Sheldon may be your man. He seems interested. It is a challenge. He may even want to throw in a case for it? Yeah, I am just ribbing him. He and Dickie are good people.
You caught me with this in the wee hours. I woke up at 545 and saw the latest responses and felt compelled to write. Hey I already lost money on this job!
 
Yeah Brent, I goofed

I did did not read the whole thread through this time, and mixed up the characters. I thought of it a half hour ago, while I was out walking the dog this morning, and was hoping I could change it before anyone read it ... WRONG !
Mea Culpa !!! Sorry Dickie, it was Arnot. I was in a rush to do my morning walk. In the rain yet too! And just now having that first cup of coffee, man it tastes good after an hour walk in the rain. Maybe I should switch to Ginseng tea and improve my memory?
Sheldon would be a very qualified maker for that experiment. Maybe a cool compound taper project?
 
heres what you do got to the local hardware store and buy a nice long broom handle and take it to your local guy after you buy the pin and have him face off the broom stick and insert the pin. you can get the length and be around your budget for a dowell.


seriously tho.
get on MG's site and buy one he has earls cue in stock i believe.
 
Call Mike at Stealth. We bought a dozen of his 84" stock cues for a league operator who wanted to have a "REALLY BIG TOURNAMENT' a while back. We kept one here in our room for show and tell...Danger is hurting the players on the adjoining tables with the butt on the backstroke. LOL Have a wonderfull fun day. Ken Ken
 
Buying a sneaky from Schmelke and having someone make a 10" extension
will be your cheapest option.
If you don't like it, Earl might buy it from you.
 
Well, damn. I'm disappointed. I read through this entire thread thinking it was going to be about a midget groper in a crowded elevator.
 
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