$5,000 1st Place Amateur Event ( Good or Bad) ???

geno

geno

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As a player, do you think this is a good or bad format?

The entry fee is definitely on the high side but compared to most amateur regional tour events you would have to play in 5 different events, paying 5 different entry fees + tour card fees and paying expenses to go to those 5 different events and have to win all 5 of said events just to win what you could win at this one event.

I estimate that it would cost about $250 to $300 for entry fees + another $350 to $400 in hotels and gas + another $200 in expenses to go to 5 different amateur tour events. That is over $800 in expenses versus the $220 entry fee + 1 night lodging + $50 for food and meals (total about $310) for this 1 event. So in a comparison like that, I think it is a really sweet deal.

Winning $5,000 at one time could change someones life. Especially an Amateur player.

IMO, I like the event. What do you think?

Do you have any ideas on how it could be better and if you do not like the format, why ?

geno said:
11/27-28 = $12,000 Guaranteed* Ozone Billiards Amateur Classic Tour - In Atlanta

We have upped the Guaranteed* money from $10,000 to $12,000 with a $5,000 1st place.

November 27th - 28th = $12,000 Guaranteed* Ozone Billiards Amateur Classic Tour event at Mr Cues II in Atlanta - BE THERE !!!

We have upped the Guaranteed" money from $10,000 to $12,000 with a $5,000 1st place.

Race to 21, Single Elim, Pays top 8 places, $220 Entry Fee, 2-Day Event
Played on 9' tables with Simonis 860 Cloth and Aramith Super Pro Balls

Payouts (based on 48 players*)
1st-$5,000
2nd-$2,000
3rd/4th $1,000 each
5-8 place $600 each
*$12,000 Prize Fund Guaranteed based on 48 players.

Only the 1st 48 entries will be taken for this event - All entries must be sent in via PayPal by November 1st, 2010. Send entries to email address ozonetour@yahoo.com on PayPal.

Amateur Status Eligibility for this even can be found here: http://ozonebilliardstour.com/aarules.htm

Players, this is a test tournament. By test we mean that if this event is well received by the players we will do more of these with more players allowed to participate and additional added monies to the events. If you like this format, please do not hesitate to send in your entry fee as early as possible.

If we do not have 48 players by 11/1/10 we will refund 100% of all entry fees. If we have more than 48 entries, the 1st additional 8 players will be put on a reserve waiting list.

SEND IN YOUR ENTRY FEES TODAY !!

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I think it's a great idea.
I hope you get enough interest to have at least 1 a month, more if you want to work that hard.
Be careful though , a lot of people think tournaments always lose money.
 
Sadly but true !

the more money that is offered for amateur events the more the semi-pro/hustlers will come out trying to beat the system...Idea is great but it is what it is.
 
houmatroy said:
the more money that is offered for amateur events the more the semi-pro/hustlers will come out trying to beat the system...Idea is great but it is what it is.
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Troy,

This is spot on. First place in my amateur monthly was routinely 1800-2500for a one day event.

The hustlers and road players were always trying to sneak in.

An event like this one would require a diligent qualification enforcment to be successful, imo.

Ray
 
I guess Im an idiot but where is this event being held?


btw....the format seems fine to me, and yes like said above.....keeping the killers out of the henhouse is always a chore.
 
Gerry said:
I guess Im an idiot but where is this event being held?


btw....the format seems fine to me, and yes like said above.....keeping the killers out of the henhouse is always a chore.
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November 27th - 28th = $12,000 Guaranteed* Ozone Billiards Amateur Classic Tour event at Mr Cues II in Atlanta
 
I personally have never been a fan of single elim. Otherwise it sounds like a great event.
 
The ineligibility criteria seems pretty weak to me, so the last bullet point, the "TD Discretion" one, will need to be leaned on pretty strong. Else, IMO, the liklihood of a successful recurring tourney is diminished. I wouldn't want to drop $220 only to see a handful of killers who play head and shoulders above the field.

If you can successfully and fairly weed out super skilled players, that will become evident to your target market, and they'll come back for more. It's a tough chore and I suspect you'll seek out input from tourney directors who have successfully skinned this kat before.

Best of luck moving forward. I hope it works well for all involved!
 
The criteria for the Amateur event is exactly as it was for the former Viking Tour and they never had a problem with enforcing it.

As I understand it, the Ozone Tour collects information on player stats as reported by all online sources and published magazines. From what I have seen it looks like the stats on the AZB player finder but is much more comprehensive because it is a combination of all sources available.

Currently the Ozone Tour has two different categories for amateur players just as the Viking tour did. On the Viking Tour they were called "Amateur" and "Amateur-Advanced". On the Ozone tour they are call "Beginning Amateur" and "Amateur". Below are the qualifications for each of those on the Ozone Tour.


New Ozone Billiards "Beginning Amateur" Qualification Rules - Who Can and Can't Play
As of October 1st, 2010 the Ozone Billiards "Beginning Amateur" 9-Ball Tour has set new eligibility/disqualification rules for all players wishing to participate in the events.

Re: Disqualifications

You Can Not Play in the Viking Cue Amateur 9-Ball Tour events if in the prior 5 years:

1. You have ever won any Open Regional Tour or Handicapped Regional Tour events as a highest ranking player in the event. Or have won 2 or more as the second highest ranking player in the events.
2. You have placed in 2nd or 3rd place of any $10,000 added tournament.
3. You have 8 or more 2nd or 3rd place finishes in open or handicapped regional tour events as a highest ranking player in the event.
4. You have won 8 or more Amateur events on any Amateur tours (combined).
5. You have ever been considered a male professional player.
6. You have ever been in the top 8 of the WPBA or are currently in the top 32 of the WPBA.
7. If you have ever won any National or International title in either Amateur, Handicapped, Junior or Open play in any tournaments or leagues.
8. You are a known Road Player or Top Player in your region.

If you fall into any of the above categories the Ozone Billiards "Open" or "Amateur" 9-Ball Tour is the division for you. Additionally, who may and who may not play in the Amateur division is at the sole discretion of the director at the event or the Ozone Billiards Tour office staff. If you have any questions regarding your eligibility please email the Ozone Billiards Tour at ozonetour@yahoo.com at least 14 days prior to the event you wish to compete in. If you do not fall into any of the above categories the Ozone Billiards "Beginning Amateur": 9-Ball Tour is your ticket to success.

Re: Current Member Disqualifications

Current Ozone Billiards "Beginning Amateur" 9-Ball Tour players will be disqualified from participation in Ozone Billiards "Beginning Amateur" 9-Ball Tour events if at anytime they meet any of the any of the above stated rules for disqualifications. At that time your current Ozone Billiards "Beginning Amateur" 9-Ball Tour card your status will be changed to an Amateur or Open tour card for the remainder of your tour card time period.

Ozone Billiards "Beginning Amateur" 9-Ball Tour members will be eligible to participate in the Amateur division until:

1. You win 8 Ozone Billiards "Beginning Amateur" 9-Ball Tour events.
2. You win 4, $2,000 added or moreOzone Billiards "Beginning Amateur" 9-Ball Tour events
3. You place in the top 4 places of Ozone Billiards "Beginning Amateur" 9-Ball Tour events 16 times.

All players that have not met the disqualification rules for the Ozone Billiards "Beginning Amateur" 9-Ball Tour are welcome to participate in our Amateur division events.

Amateur Qualifications

This division is intended to bridge the gap between amateur players and players with advanced skills to help guide each player on their journey of organized tournament competition with the goal of becoming professionals in our sport.

Qualification Rules Updated 10/1/10

Rules for Qualification & Disqualifications of players for the Ozone Billiard "Amateur" 9-Ball Tour Event Division are as follows:

Disqualifications

You Can Not Play in the Ozone Billiard "Amateur" 9-Ball Tour events if:

1. You have ever won 12 or more Open Regional Tour Events in the last 5 years or any $20,000 added or more Professional Events in the last 5 years.
2. You have placed 2nd or 3rd of any $20,000 added or more tournament in the last 5 years.
3. You have 16 or more 2nd, 3rd place finishes in open regional tour events.
4. You have won 10 or more Amateur events on any other Amateur tours (combined) and not including the Ozone Billiard Amateur 9-Ball Tour.
5. You are a known Road Player with professional skills. You may not participate even if you have never competed in any professional events. (Subject to Tournament Directors Decision)

If you fall into any of the above categories the Ozone Billiard "Open" 9-Ball Tour is the division for you. Additionally, who may and who may not play in the Amateur division is at the sole discretion of the director at the event or the Ozone Billiard 9-Ball Tour office staff. If you have any questions regarding your eligibility please email the Ozone Billiard 9-Ball Tour at ozonetour@yahoo.com at least 14 days prior to the event you wish to compete in. If you do not fall into any of the above categories the Ozone Billiard Amateur 9-Ball Tour is your ticket to success.

Current Member Disqualifications

Current Ozone Billiard Amateur 9-Ball Tour players will be disqualified from participation in Ozone Billiard Amateur 9-Ball Tour events if at anytime they meet any of the any of the above stated rules for disqualifications. At that time your current Ozone Billiard Amateur 9-Ball Tour card status will be changed to an Open tour card for the remainder of your tour card time period.

Ozone Billiard Amateur 9-Ball Tour members will be eligible to participate in the Amateur division until:

1. You win 8 Ozone Billiard Amateur 9-Ball Tour events.
2. You place in the top 4 places of Ozone Billiard Amateur 9-Ball Tour events 16 times.

All players that have not met the disqualification rules for the Ozone Billiard Amateur 9-Ball Tour are welcome to participate in our Amateur division events.

Lessor skilled players may participate in all of the Ozone Billiard 9-Ball Tour Divisions. Those divisions include: Amateur Only, Open and Professional.
 
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