526 consecutive balls

[easy-e]

Your thought is incorrect. JS does not have the highest run on a Diamond.
The only run over 300 on a Diamond 9ft is 311 and it wasn't by John.

Did you record that one, Bobby? I'd love to check it out. Always enjoyed watching you play in VA.

 

[Gear101]

You have yet to make a point about the original topic you started or respond directly to even one post by others. Nobody cares what cues you own.

Is the word "only" in the post I made? I know what I posted and what I meant by it.

Tell us in your own words exactly why you think a cue built using machinery controled by electronics makes a cue so different that it gives today's player an advantage over those 60+ years ago.

And how about a direct answer about the Predator ad which is about laminated blanks and not CNC.



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Maybe you should go back and read the whole thread then. Amazing he complex that record so many years ago and really only one person has beat it.

Especially look at the evolution of the Billiards industry with pool shoes felt balls chalks in addition to that let me throw another one out for you the new leveling devices that they have to level a table.

Go ahead fact check me troll.

 

[Gear101]

God just imagine if all those tables Willie mosconi played on they had the new leveling devices that they have nowadays for tables.

I'm sure a bunch of people are going to try I'm in now and telling me at 1950 levels not nearly as accurate as the new ones and the laser they use.
GO

 

[Gear101]

People like you guys will kill a v board just to let you know.

 

[logical]

Maybe you should go back and read the whole thread then. Amazing he complex that record so many years ago and really only one person has beat it.

Especially look at the evolution of the Billiards industry with pool shoes felt balls chalks in addition to that let me throw another one out for you the new leveling devices that they have to level a table.

Go ahead fact check me troll.

Another non-answer.

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[Pensacola]

Source Wiki...

Mosconi set the world record by running 526 consecutive balls without a miss during a straight pool exhibition in Springfield, Ohio on March 19–20, 1954.[11] A handwritten and notarized affidavit[12] with the signatures of more than 35 eyewitnesses exists as proof of this feat. The record has been surpassed, with 626 consecutive balls ran by John Schmidt on May 27, 2019, recorded on a videotape.[13] Critics have argued that Mosconi's record was made in competition while Schmidt simply set up break shots for himself, and that his video was never released.[14][15]

Mosconi’s record was set on a 4 × 8 foot Brunswick table with 5 1/4 inch corner pockets at the East High Billiard Club. Schmidt’s run was on a 4 1/2 by 9 foot table which is more difficult in the sense that longer shots are required but which is easier to play on in the sense that there is more room for the balls to spread, creating unfettered shots. Mosconi competed successfully on 4 1/2 × 9 and even 5 x 10 ft tables.

Forget that stupidity of "longer" shots on a 9 ft table. THE ONLY KEY THING HERE IS THE 4X8 TABLE! Its 3-5 times harder to run 100 balls on a 4x8
table because of the spread. None of these clowns beat Mosconi's record until they do it on a 4x8. Their accomplishments on the bigger table is commendable, but let me see then run 250 on a 4x8

 

[AtLarge]

Forget that stupidity of "longer" shots on a 9 ft table. THE ONLY KEY THING HERE IS THE 4X8 TABLE! Its 3-5 times harder to run 100 balls on a 4x8
table because of the spread. None of these clowns beat Mosconi's record until they do it on a 4x8. Their accomplishments on the bigger table is commendable, but let me see then run 250 on a 4x8

per John Schmidt on AzB about 15 years ago:

" ... for the record i think 14.1 on the bartable is easier than 9ft.​

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you can reach allbreakballs,combos and shots are a joke etc.​

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yes its more confined space but with the cueball control ive learned from 14.1 thats the last thing im worried about.​

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for the record the easiest table to play 14.1 is a 4x8 .ive played on them all and its the easiest no doubt. enough room to play but still easier on shotmaking,reaching,combos than 9ft."​

 

[Texas Carom Club]

Forget that stupidity of "longer" shots on a 9 ft table. THE ONLY KEY THING HERE IS THE 4X8 TABLE! Its 3-5 times harder to run 100 balls on a 4x8
table because of the spread. None of these clowns beat Mosconi's record until they do it on a 4x8. Their accomplishments on the bigger table is commendable, but let me see then run 250 on a 4x8

oh jeez not this shit again

 

[wrldpro]

Forget that stupidity of "longer" shots on a 9 ft table. THE ONLY KEY THING HERE IS THE 4X8 TABLE! Its 3-5 times harder to run 100 balls on a 4x8
table because of the spread. None of these clowns beat Mosconi's record until they do it on a 4x8. Their accomplishments on the bigger table is commendable, but let me see then run 250 on a 4x8

I do agree that running balls on a 4x8 is slightly harder than a 9ft and a 10 ft table is harder than a 9ft.
The issue is there are no 8 ft tables in poolrooms anymore and for the record there are 2 sizes of 8ft. tables.
44x88 playing area and 46x92 playing area.
Mosconi ran his 526 on a 46x92.
Also for the record 526 wasn’t Mosconi’s highest run. He ran a 589 in 1979 the day before he played Minnesota Fats on ABC wide world of sports. Go on YouTube and type in Mosconi and Ursetti in the search and listen to the comments by Charlie Ursetti. I knew Willie well and he told me he ran 609 and his wife Flora told him he had to stop because they had people waiting on them to go to dinner.
As far as you calling players clowns who are doing high runs today you can say what you want but certainly they are not clowns.
Here is the YouTube link. It’s very informative about Mosconi

 

[trob]

Hey try some coffee today.... and light'n up.

Plus I'm almost certain your post goes against board rules. Not to cross the conversation of threads.

Might want to fact check me on that.

Against board rules? What are you in elementary school lol

 

[trob]

Forget that stupidity of "longer" shots on a 9 ft table. THE ONLY KEY THING HERE IS THE 4X8 TABLE! Its 3-5 times harder to run 100 balls on a 4x8
table because of the spread. None of these clowns beat Mosconi's record until they do it on a 4x8. Their accomplishments on the bigger table is commendable, but let me see then run 250 on a 4x8

Wow.. lol don’t even know where to start if you think the current record holder couldn’t run 250 on some big pocket 4x8 table you’re delusional. Shaw plays on 4 inch pockets. those things mosconi was playing on would look like buckets. Shaw was one stroking most of the shots like it was a valley on the gold crown he was playing on.

 

[straightline]

If an 8 footer cramps your style you need more ball control and less style.

 

[Bob Jewett]

I asked Jimmy Caras about 8' vs. 9' and he said that the only way a top player would ever miss on an 8-foot was if/when he got tired of running balls. He was quite firm in his belief. But, then, he had pretty good cue ball control.

 

[trob]

I don’t know if anyone talked about it on this thread but straight pool and the way it’s played has changed since mosconi. When you watch them play they chipped at racks knocking a few balls loose. Now the focus is blasting the rack wide open to run out. That’s a pretty big difference in style to me.

 

[Texas Carom Club]

I don’t know if anyone talked about it on this thread but straight pool and the way it’s played has changed since mosconi. When you watch them play they chipped at racks knocking a few balls loose. Now the focus is blasting the rack wide open to run out. That’s a pretty big difference in style to me.

I think it’s the equipment that allows this
Probably really easy and hazardous to get stuck going into the pack back then with much slower conditions
Compared to faster cloth and balls with better surface finishes of today

 

[leto1776]

I don’t know if anyone talked about it on this thread but straight pool and the way it’s played has changed since mosconi. When you watch them play they chipped at racks knocking a few balls loose. Now the focus is blasting the rack wide open to run out. That’s a pretty big difference in style to me.

I think the biggest difference that nobody ever points out is the guys today trying to set high runs are, well, trying to break records. Mosconi didn’t set out that night to break a record. He was putting on a show in an exhibition.

 

[garczar]

Shaw/Filler would blow WAAAY past the 1000ball point on ANY 4x8. This 'traffic issue' on a smaller table is SO overblown its ridiculous.

 

[L.S. Dennis]

I think the biggest difference that nobody ever points out is the guys today trying to set high runs are, well, trying to break records. Mosconi didn’t set out that night to break a record. He was putting on a show in an exhibition.

I think what you say has some truth to it. I also think that when Mosconi did that run he was almost assuredly dressed in a coat and tie, dress shoes, certainly not the way you'd be dressed if you were merely trying to break a record. Mosconi did have a run(s) over 600 on 4 1/2x9s in practice in later years I think Charles Ursetti mentions this somewhere. This being said, John S. and Jayson Shaw phenomenal runs to break that original record, are really unbelievable! Didn't I read somewhere that Sigel said that 'if Mosconi had modern 760 cloth to play on he would have run 2000! Just some thoughts on a subject that never seems to go away.

 

[trob]

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I think it’s the equipment that allows this
Probably really easy and hazardous to get stuck going into the pack back then with much slower conditions
Compared to faster cloth and balls with better surface finishes of today

I’m sure equipment has a lot to do with it.

I think what you say has some truth to it. I also think that when Mosconi did that run he was almost assuredly dressed in a coat and tie, dress shoes, certainly not the way you'd be dressed if you were merely trying to break a record. Mosconi did have a run(s) over 600 on 4 1/2x9s in practice in later years I think Charles Ursetti mentions this somewhere. This being said, John S. and Jayson Shaw phenomenal runs to break that original record, are really unbelievable! Didn't I read somewhere that Sigel said that 'if Mosconi had modern 760 cloth to play on he would have run 2000! Just some thoughts on a subject that never seems to go away.

Mike Sigel also thinks by his posts that he can still play and beat the best players in the world and should be on the mosconi cup team so I’m not sure I’d take anything he says with anything more then a grain of salt. He wouldn’t run 2k balls lol that’s just pool players talking silly like they do

 

[lfigueroa]

My personal opinion, as a total 14.1 whacker, is that a 4x8 is tougher to run big numbers on because of the smaller playing area and the higher probability of getting hooked or scratching.

It is no joke.

Lou Figueroa