And believe it or not all I asked was what were the pocket sizes. Could have answered in one sentence, one post
How does working at a grocery store matter with regards to impartiality?
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When Mosconi ran 526, it was after the game was over and he merely kept the run going. The attendees were mostly just pool fans that wanted to see Mosconi play. It turned out to be a piece of history that they viewed. The people on hand signed an affidavit that Mosconi ran 526 balls.
John Schmidt has been trying to beat this record for a long time. He did this on his home table for a long time. The only witness being his video recorder and probably his wife. I think he started getting criticized about how it would look beating the record on a table he played on every day and with no witnesses. So, this last year he decided to make his game more public and go to pool halls where many people could be witnesses. Plus, he had a camera running for each attempt. It took many tries and it wasn't at the first pool hall he attempted it. John was invited to Easy Street Billiards in Monterey CA this past May. Once again he had a camera set up and witnesses were anybody who was present at the time, similar to how Mosconi set the 526 record. This is a very public place, not a closed club which requires a membership to get in. It was also on a table with standard cut pockets, not pro cut like some of the newer tables. This record will probably stand for quite a long time. The game of 14.1 is not the game of choice these days and there are very few, if any, major tournaments in the USA any longer.
My only regret is that my vacation plans put me in Monterey 2 days after John broke the record. If I were two days earlier, you would see my name on that affidavit. But that wouldn't mean anything, I'm just a nobody. As it stands, I got to talk to John and his wife for a little while and that's good enough for me. There were enough witnesses on hand to make this a legit record. Plus, it's on video. What more can we ask for?
Of course there are always those that don't believe we landed on the moon in 1969 either. Some think the world is flat. The doubting Thomas' of the world will always be out there. If they don't see it for themselves, it just didn't happen.
Little food for thought. Is Mosconi's 526 on video? They had video then....just sayin. How can we say for sure it happened? It happened because we have people's signatures on an affidavit that says so. Right? Ok, this last part I'm just messin with ya....but makes ya think.
I notice you didn't refute a word that I wrote. "Get a membership" is only deflection. The only troll here is you. You have no actual argument so you think your "gold membership" gives you some kind of clout?
P.s. I have a membership or else I couldn't be posting this.
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It seems there are plenty of trolls at your level as well.You can support this community that you are posting in by paying a few bucks a month. Last I saw there was only one plan.
You are a Bronze and I consider your posting style and skills poor. Free accounts don't get much from me anymore. Too many trolls at that level. Your level.
Are you the grocery store guy?
When Mosconi ran 526, it was after the game was over and he merely kept the run going. The attendees were mostly just pool fans that wanted to see Mosconi play. It turned out to be a piece of history that they viewed. The people on hand signed an affidavit that Mosconi ran 526 balls.
John Schmidt has been trying to beat this record for a long time. He did this on his home table for a long time. The only witness being his video recorder and probably his wife. I think he started getting criticized about how it would look beating the record on a table he played on every day and with no witnesses. So, this last year he decided to make his game more public and go to pool halls where many people could be witnesses. Plus, he had a camera running for each attempt. It took many tries and it wasn't at the first pool hall he attempted it. John was invited to Easy Street Billiards in Monterey CA this past May. Once again he had a camera set up and witnesses were anybody who was present at the time, similar to how Mosconi set the 526 record. This is a very public place, not a closed club which requires a membership to get in. It was also on a table with standard cut pockets, not pro cut like some of the newer tables. This record will probably stand for quite a long time. The game of 14.1 is not the game of choice these days and there are very few, if any, major tournaments in the USA any longer.
My only regret is that my vacation plans put me in Monterey 2 days after John broke the record. If I were two days earlier, you would see my name on that affidavit. But that wouldn't mean anything, I'm just a nobody. As it stands, I got to talk to John and his wife for a little while and that's good enough for me. There were enough witnesses on hand to make this a legit record. Plus, it's on video. What more can we ask for?
Of course there are always those that don't believe we landed on the moon in 1969 either. Some think the world is flat. The doubting Thomas' of the world will always be out there. If they don't see it for themselves, it just didn't happen.
Little food for thought. Is Mosconi's 526 on video? They had video then....just sayin. How can we say for sure it happened? It happened because we have people's signatures on an affidavit that says so. Right? Ok, this last part I'm just messin with ya....but makes ya think.
:rotflmao1:There is very little that's similar between how Mosconi accomplished his run and how JS did it.
One last thing: yes, they had video back then, lol. But video technology was in it's infancy in the 1950's. We take for granted that we all carry around a video camera in our pockets. No so back in Willie's time. Here's what a piece of video recording equipment looked like in the mid-50's.
Lou Figueroa
There is very little that's similar between how Mosconi accomplished his run and how JS did it.
Just for starters, Mosconi did it on a table strange to him, on the spur of the moment. Mosconi didn't set up a special table and he didn't go at it for months on end. Nor, as has been reported: did he use a Sardo rack to get an absolutely perfect rack every single time, or rack them at the wrong end of the table to improve the spread of his break shots. And it remains to be known how many times JS was polishing the balls during the course of his run.
One last thing: yes, they had video back then, lol. But video technology was in it's infancy in the 1950's. We take for granted that we all carry around a video camera in our pockets. No so back in Willie's time. Here's what a piece of video recording equipment looked like in the mid-50's.
Lou Figueroa
There is very little that's similar between how Mosconi accomplished his run and how JS did it.
Just for starters,
The fact remains, plain and simple. You can twist it any way you want but it changes nothing! Just another biased opinion to add to the other eight signers and the two BCA reps. DVD players will play forward and reverse frame-by-frame, So bring on the video, show the undeniable proof and there will be no further questions.
The fact remains, plain and simple. You can twist it any way you want but it changes nothing! Just another biased opinion to add to the other eight signers and the two BCA reps. DVD players will play forward and reverse frame-by-frame, So bring on the video, show the undeniable proof and there will be no further questions.
Sorry Lou, bogus argument here. Mosconi always played on Brunswick tables, mostly Gold Crowns. The different/strange table argument just doesn't hold water. He brought his own balls and racked for himself on each successive rack, so he got the balls just the way he wanted them. He had a towel and would clean the balls as necessary. I watched him do all this a dozen times or more.
IMO they both played 14.1 on a similarly difficult table and encountered the same kind of obstacles in running their racks. It was a tremendous accomplishment by both men and it just so happens that John Schmidt ran 100 more balls than Willie Mosconi. I too think Willie was one of the two of three best players of all time, but the fact remains John broke his high run record, plain and simple. You can twist it any way you want but it changes nothing!
Just for starters, John did it on a 9 footer.
You guys are really overthinking things.
What John did was amazing. His results are due to tremendous effort and dedication to the game. It should be celebrated by anyone who is as fan of the game.
He ran a lot of balls.
But if you're a true fan of the game you cannot say it was comparable to what Mosconi did.
Lou Figueroa