8ball you messed up, now what

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Well I really goofed this runout up. I shot my last ball in the right hand pocket at the bottom of the table and the CB took too much right hand spin off the rail, hit the 12 and drifted in behind the 9.

I tried a railjump at the 7 unsuccesfully, what would you do? BTW this is a Vally 7' table in excellent condition.

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wow!

wow! i can't understand how you get that ball to loop around so many times... i would think some sort of funky bottom right? i've never seen this done before.
 
daveetzie said:
wow! i can't understand how you get that ball to loop around so many times... i would think some sort of funky bottom right? i've never seen this done before.
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Just center ball.
 
Well, assuming I can see the 12, I might try to tie it up into the 8 & 15. Even though you give up the table, if tied up well, you stand a chance of getting back to the table. You're likely going to give up the table (unless you are Houdini), so why not try to make sure you are going to get back to it?

If I absolutely have to attempt a shot on the 7, page 2 might be a path option.



I really like Jude's answer though. When all else fails... PUNT. :D

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Irish634 said:
Well, assuming I can see the 12, I might try to tie it up into the 8 & 15. Even though you give up the table, if tied up well, you stand a chance of getting back to the table.

If I absolutely have to attempt a shot on the 7, page 2 might be a path option.



I really like Jude's answer though. When all else fails... PUNT. :D
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I almost like your second option better, giving up ball in hand is a sell out. um, so is running 6 balls and missing but that's another story.
 
supergreenman said:
I almost like your second option better, giving up ball in hand is a sell out. um, so is running 6 balls and missing but that's another story.
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Well, I must have been editing when you were replying, so I'll repost it.

You're likely going to give up the table (unless you are Houdini), so why not try to make sure you are going to get back to it?

In option 2 I presented, where would the CB end up?

<<Edited to add: The 7 is in a decent position to be made in numerous pockets. Why move it and risk tying it up? Or risk kicking at it and miss all together, still giving up BIH, but not having done anything to make sure you have a chance to get back to the table? >>
 
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Just rack'm

Jude Rosenstock said:
Okay, so my opponent had me on two fouls, playing 9-ball. I had no idea what to do. Any thoughts?

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I would like to see you get a legal hit.:D just a hit is good
 
About the 8 ball game... If you are not too sure of the defense shot, then a way to hit or make the 7 ball is to hit right english 2 rails (top rail to right rail, spin toward 7 ball). The spot on the 2nd rail needs to be near the pocket if you want the cue ball to angle out and miss the 14.

[Editted] OOPS, I just looked at page 2 from Irish 634. He said the same thing!
 
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similar situation

I have a situation like this come up in a match once,broke the one nine were dead and the rock was jawed with a ball in front of it.I used the old poke and hope.:eek: :D
 
supergreenman said:
Well I really goofed this runout up. I shot my last ball in the right hand pocket at the bottom of the table and the CB took too much right hand spin off the rail, hit the 12 and drifted in behind the 9.

I tried a railjump at the 7 unsuccesfully, what would you do? BTW this is a Vally 7' table in excellent condition.

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There might be a three rail hit in there, although you may need to bend the cueball around that 14 ball.

Dave
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Okay, so my opponent had me on two fouls, playing 9-ball. I had no idea what to do. Any thoughts?

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The only hard part is to keep the cue ball up on the top of the rail past the side pocket so it can drop down on the one ball without hitting the nine first. I think you need right draw and good wrist action. This shot was a favorite of Greenleaf's and Efren is even money at it.
 
supergreenman said:
.. I tried a railjump at the 7 unsuccesfully, what would you do? BTW this is a Vally 7' table in excellent condition. ...
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I think the rail jump is your best chance unless you have a jump stick and can clear the first ball reliably. As someone else mentioned, it looks like the 14 is in the way of the 3-cushion shot. If not, that's what I'd usually try, but on a table I hadn't tested, the rail jump would be my choice.
 
Jude Rosenstock said:
Okay, so my opponent had me on two fouls, playing 9-ball. I had no idea what to do. Any thoughts?

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Yes, my thought here is that your opponent is an exceptional defensive player.
 
On the 8-ball shot, the rail jump is the best option.

For Jude's shot, the best way out of this is to tell your opponent that you need a restroom break. While you're gone, set off the fire alarm. As everyone leaves the room reverse the positions of the 1 and the 9. Then place the cueball a foot away. After all the excitement everyone will return and forget what a great trap your opponent left you in.
 
While we're joking around, a guy who used to own a pool room in the St Louis are told me he saw Louie gamble that he could make the ball in the corner pocket and draw the cue ball (frozen to the point) back and scratch in the corner. He said Louie jacked the cue up vertical and somehow but a ton of english on the cue ball, pocketed the object ball, the cue ball, and the cash.


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