9-ball: What do you do here? - Dec 30 #1

sjm

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Playing nine ball, opponent scratches on the break. What's your approach with ball oin hand? The five nine combo isn't makeable and the equipment is medium tight.
 

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sjm said:
Continuing my quest to get more and more pool on Page 1 as the board heals from its recent discord --------

Playing nine ball, opponent scratches on the break. What's your approach with ball oin hand? The five nine combo isn't makeable and the equipment is medium tight.

I bank the one softly off the top rail and over into the 5-9 and leave the CB frozen on the 2 & other ball. Hopefully getting a 1-9 combo with BIH. It's important to hit the end rail before the 5B with the one. That gives best chance of combo & will be harder for opponent to make legal hit.

Cheers,
RC
 
If you get an angle on the 4 and send the cueball gently into the 9 it should leave a shot on the 5, but then you still have the 7/8 mess.

I might try to bank the 1 into the 5/9 for a breakout leaving the CB behind the 2/6 wall. You might get lucky and leave the 9 in a combo position with ball in hand.

Chris
 
sjm said:
Continuing my quest to get more and more pool on Page 1 as the board heals from its recent discord --------

Playing nine ball, opponent scratches on the break. What's your approach with ball oin hand? The five nine combo isn't makeable and the equipment is medium tight.


I guess ill play a safe behind the 2 et al and try to bust up the 5 9 hoping for an easy 1-9 if i get ball in hand.
 
No matter what is done with the 1 ball, banking it down table to try to break up the 5 and 9, while hiding the cue ball behind the 2, there's a chance something might pot and then you'd be hooked behind the 2.

What I'd try to do is make sure I got good shape on the 4 ball to pot it in the corner, and use the cue ball to run into the 5 and 9, and try to shoot it well enough that the cue ball would continue over into the 7 and 8 and open them up.

At that point, reassess the situation for the 5 ball, perhaps a runout will there; if not, it's safety time...
 
sixpack said:
I bank the one softly off the top rail and over into the 5-9 and leave the CB frozen on the 2 & other ball. Hopefully getting a 1-9 combo with BIH. It's important to hit the end rail before the 5B with the one. That gives best chance of combo & will be harder for opponent to make legal hit.

Cheers,
RC
This was my first thought, but why lock the cue ball on the two? I think, if you give him an easy kick at it, he will clear one obstacle for you.

Tracy
 
Mucho good rep for you SJM!!
thanks for the effort of pool related activity instead of the 'young and restless'
This is much more fun then the drama and this is what AZ should be all about!
Heck- i'm a newbie 9-baller <i'm an 8 ball FANATIC!> and i may even LEARN something
thanks man!
i would take the 1 through 3, leaving myself in good position mid table for the 3 up, pull the cueball back above the side pocket opposite the 4, pot the 4 and try to get into the 5-9 and a little faith i'll get a shot on the 5.
 
Break the 5-9 with a safe, hoping for a combo.. if not, just play safe or try to run out. Or 3 fouls.
 
sjm said:
Continuing my quest to get more and more pool on Page 1 as the board heals from its recent discord --------

Playing nine ball, opponent scratches on the break. What's your approach with ball oin hand? The five nine combo isn't makeable and the equipment is medium tight.

Play safe banking the 1 into the 5-9 parking the cue ball behind the 2-6. :)
 
Play safe for the 3 foul period. Balls are laid out to funny to do anything else. Don't like playing for combo's because too much can go wrong. Three fouls game over!
 
bankshots said:
Play safe for the 3 foul period. Balls are laid out to funny to do anything else. Don't like playing for combo's because too much can go wrong. Three fouls game over!

Good suggestion. Where would you put the 1-ball and CB to set up for the next safe?

Cheers,
RC
 
sjm said:
Continuing my quest to get more and more pool on Page 1 as the board heals from its recent discord --------

Playing nine ball, opponent scratches on the break. What's your approach with ball oin hand? The five nine combo isn't makeable and the equipment is medium tight.

take ball in hand on the left side of the 1 shooting into the right corner pocket.2 rails to get straight on the 2.2 goes in the same pocket as the 1,drawing the cueball off the long rail to the center of the table for the 3.
3 goes in the same pocket as 1 and 2,coming off the rail a bit to get an angle on the 4.high inside english to pocket the 4 and break out the 5-9.

if you break it out and don't get the cueball stuck behind the 9 you should be able to pocket the 5 in the corner,breaking out the 7-8.
 
sjm said:
Continuing my quest to get more and more pool on Page 1 as the board heals from its recent discord --------

Playing nine ball, opponent scratches on the break. What's your approach with ball oin hand? The five nine combo isn't makeable and the equipment is medium tight.
Smash the one into the 7/8, sending the 7 into and behind the 9-ball nudging it into the corner pocket!
 
Simply use the ball in hand to sink the one ball in the corner pocket and put the 2 in the side pocket and try fore the three and rest of it is to try some hookin.
 
This one's a no brainer! Bank the one ball into the 5-9 and freeze up the rock behind the 2-6. I remember Skeeterhawk putting a move like this on me when I first played in Chelsea back in '99.
 
> Faced with this layout,I would go down and take a real close look at the way the 5-9 is laying. If I really like what I see,here is my pattern.

> I set the cue ball in a position to draw back to point A off the 1,giving me an angle to punch the cue ball out to the middle of the table off the 2 at point B. Drawing off the 3 to point C,rolling the 4 in coming across table to almost anywhere past the middle diamond on the end rail,and if I read the lay of the 5-9 correctly,the rail-first billiard from the 5 to the nine is a hanger with inside spin. A collision identical to the one that causes you to kick at a ball off the end rail,hit underneath it,and scratch in the near corner. Here is the diagram of my pattern.

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%Qf7I7%R\6Q7%SZ8Q7%TK4J9%UL6L4%VO2Z7%Wk4M4%Xi1I8%Yh4K4%Zk0M4
%[^1R2%\g8N9%]\5S7%^f9Z2%eA6a7%_C8S2%`C3R9%aJ9L0%bC4[7%cD1U2
%dD2S5
)END


> On the other hand,if the 5-9 isn't on,you could still play this same pattern and use it to play safe,possibly moving the 9 over closer to the pocket,and leave a very long tough shot of the 5 with the cue ball nearly frozen to the rail,like this.

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%E]0Z3%Fi1O8%GK9D7%HJ7D1%ID1Z3%PD0T8%Q[4_0%R]0_1

)END

> Even though your opponent isn't hooked here,you still might win the game from here,because even if they are able to make the 5 and get on the 6,they still have to deal with the 7-8 somehow,might try and play safe in return,and not execute it. The long bank on the 1 into the 5-9 and ducking behind the 2-6 is also a very viable option,and may even be the right shot,but this is what I'd be looking to do. Tommy D.
 
Well, I highly doubt I'd have found the shot that Nick Varner found in this situation at the (1998?) BCA Open, but the shot he played certainly made an impression on me.

In many ways, he had a simlar approach to those suggesting playing the snooker while addressing a cluster. He found an ingenious way of addressing both clusters on the same shot.

Actually, a few years later, Nick used a slight variation on this shot in his Billiards Digest column, showing that on your best day, you can solve multiple problems as you play your defense.

Here's the shot Nick found, setting up the runout he made on his next inning. He parked the cue behind the two and six, and, I think you'll agree, he got maximum value out of the one ball.
 

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sjm said:
Well, I highly doubt I'd have found the shot that Nick Varner found in this situation at the (1998?) BCA Open, but the shot he played certainly made an impression on me.

In many ways, he had a simlar approach to those suggesting playing the snooker while addressing a cluster. He found an ingenious way of addressing both clusters on the same shot.

Actually, a few years later, Nick used a slight variation on this shot in his Billiards Digest column, showing that on your best day, you can solve multiple problems as you play your defense.

Here's the shot Nick found, setting up the runout he made on his next inning. He parked the cue behind the two and six, and, I think you'll agree, he got maximum value out of the one ball.

He is the man. If i thought of that i sure as hell couldnt pull it off-Wow!
 
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