You're not going to play it as much if you put it outside as you would if it was inside.
9' or 7' table???
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Here in Europe the 9' tables is the way to go. There are few bar boxes. So, my advice is buy a 9 foot and enjoy real pool
I tend to agree ...
I have not even seen an 8" or 7" table, before I went to training class for work to Austin, Tx ...
Even in the bars you usually have 9" tables (some using coins instead of charging per hour though)
Playing on a smaller table becomes very easy, once you get used to play on the bigger ones ...
If you use the bigger whitey on your league tables, that'll make it a different story maybe ... Getting accustomed to that, if you do not use it in regular training might be painfull
Garage is only an option, if you do not live in a very humid area and if the garage does not get TOO cold in winter or over night ... If the cloth is damp, its no fun to play on it ...
I have not even seen an 8" or 7" table, before I went to training class for work to Austin, Tx ...
Even in the bars you usually have 9" tables (some using coins instead of charging per hour though)
Playing on a smaller table becomes very easy, once you get used to play on the bigger ones ...
If you use the bigger whitey on your league tables, that'll make it a different story maybe ... Getting accustomed to that, if you do not use it in regular training might be painfull
Garage is only an option, if you do not live in a very humid area and if the garage does not get TOO cold in winter or over night ... If the cloth is damp, its no fun to play on it ...
7' or 9'
Why not both? Just saying!
Why not both? Just saying!
I have had all sizes of tables and I wasn't happy till I got a 9.
Sooo your saying Olhausen pockets are too tough eh?! lolThat is one thing I love about mine is you have to be spot on when shooting, none of this hit 3 diamonds away and still slime it in there lol. What is advantage of "Pro Cut Pocket" if you can do that!? Yes I agree Diamonds are nice but I will never want one, we have them at the pool hall and they are nice but not my thing for the $$$....I like having a table and not having a $5,000-$10,000 bill for it and still get the same results and action on my Olhausen. To each their own I suppose
Yes, I will agree the pockets on a Olhausen can be a challenge. But what I'm saying is they are defective as in you can be cheated of a ball that was supposed to go in. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the Olhausen I had. I had the pockets on that table tightened up to 4 1/2" later on and played the best set I've had against the 9ball ghost so far. I have a Diamond Pro-Am now and the table is tough but fair. If you hit the ball inside the tits they go in like they're supposed to. But unfortunately, no I can't hit 3 diamonds away and still make the ball
Go with the 9.
Adjusting from barbox to 9 can feel tough. For a little while you 'forget' you have the skill
to put those balls into those distant pockets. Shots look harder than you remember.
You feel like you have to work harder than usual.
But I never stepped from a 9 footer to a barbox and said "man, this is tough!
Everything looks weird and I feel kind of scared!" It's an easy adjustment. Trust me.
Right now, 9 footers are either too far away or you just don't feel like driving to them.
That may change once you play on one. You may feel this vague dissatisfaction with barbox pool.
Almost like you're starting to take the game seriously and don't want to settle for mini tables anymore
Adjusting from barbox to 9 can feel tough. For a little while you 'forget' you have the skill
to put those balls into those distant pockets. Shots look harder than you remember.
You feel like you have to work harder than usual.
But I never stepped from a 9 footer to a barbox and said "man, this is tough!
Everything looks weird and I feel kind of scared!" It's an easy adjustment. Trust me.
Right now, 9 footers are either too far away or you just don't feel like driving to them.
That may change once you play on one. You may feel this vague dissatisfaction with barbox pool.
Almost like you're starting to take the game seriously and don't want to settle for mini tables anymore
No...A/C alone will not work. You want to have as much of a sealed room as possible not allowing outside air to get in, and still would probably need a humidifier and dehumidifier depending on where you live and time of the year...even then it probably won't be perfect but will help.
I'd get the 7' if I were you. You have to think about what size table you play your most pool on and you had stated bar boxes. Though your Diamond is going to play miles above any bar box and play differently, it will be the most beneficial to you in my opinion. Don't buy a table to practice games like 1 pocket and straight pool unless that's all you're going to be doing.....Just my opinion though. If you're going to start playing on 9 footers mosly then get the big table though that's a lot to spend on a table that won't be in a climate controlled environment. Congrats on getting a Diamond though, I'm envious!!! LOL...I'll just keep shooting on my Olhausen, it was free and has some sentimental value as well so it's okay.
I agree.
The only thing that I would change is instead of Simonis 860, install 860HR.
The difference between them is HUGE.
I disagree.
I installed my 9' Pro Am in my garage and I play on it all the time.
I will add, however, that I finished the garage... added insulation, sheetrock and a paint job... and also replaced the thin wooden garage door with a highly efficient, well insulated one.
I also have a couple of heaters out there for winter play.
In essence, I made a rec room out of my garage except for the fact that it still houses my Harleys and some storage cabinets.
Personally I'd get a 9 footer even if it means putting it in the garage, which also has some upsides. I've got mine in my garage. It gets me further away from the girlfriend, I can bang balls around all night long and not risk waking her, and did I mention it gets me further away from my girlfriend? You will have to sort something out for your garage though, and how much depends on the climate you live in. Here, its normally wet and cold so I insulated it and put in some heating. I play atleast 2 hours a day, sometimes upto 10 hours, so if its indoors or in the garage, it shouldn't make a difference how much you use it.
I'm assuming it would be easier going from a larger table to a smaller table than the other way around. I've no experience of going from 9 to 7, but I've experience of going from a snooker table to a 9 footer, and you notice how easy it becomes to play on a 9 footer for a while. Going from a 9 to snooker table after not using a snooker table for months has a negative effect on my snooker game.
But, and this is a big but...if you are only competing on a bar box then the patterns you learn on a 9 footer won't transfer onto the bar box. If the CB is at X and the OB is at Y and the CB needs to land on Z then the pattern you learn on a 9 footer will only get you to Z on a 9 footer, on a 7 footer it will get you anywhere from A-W. That's a huge downside if you are playing rotation.
I'd still get a 9 footer though!
I'm assuming it would be easier going from a larger table to a smaller table than the other way around. I've no experience of going from 9 to 7, but I've experience of going from a snooker table to a 9 footer, and you notice how easy it becomes to play on a 9 footer for a while. Going from a 9 to snooker table after not using a snooker table for months has a negative effect on my snooker game.
But, and this is a big but...if you are only competing on a bar box then the patterns you learn on a 9 footer won't transfer onto the bar box. If the CB is at X and the OB is at Y and the CB needs to land on Z then the pattern you learn on a 9 footer will only get you to Z on a 9 footer, on a 7 footer it will get you anywhere from A-W. That's a huge downside if you are playing rotation.
I'd still get a 9 footer though!
Thanks everyone for your input.
My garage is far from finished. I live in Oregon so it's wet here, like all the time. I'd have to seal off the garage door, and start the long process of finishing the garage.
I like to play one pocket and straight pool, but only do it a couple times a year when i choose to drive out to the pool hall in my area. So 3 or 4 times a year i play on a 9' table. All my other play is on Diamond Bar box's. Most bars here have diamonds in them, so most all of my league play and all of our regional tournaments are on Diamonds bb's.
Still on the fence. I think a 9' would help with my stroke, but as many people have stated, speed, the break, and patters will be different and the 7' might be best....
My garage is far from finished. I live in Oregon so it's wet here, like all the time. I'd have to seal off the garage door, and start the long process of finishing the garage.
I like to play one pocket and straight pool, but only do it a couple times a year when i choose to drive out to the pool hall in my area. So 3 or 4 times a year i play on a 9' table. All my other play is on Diamond Bar box's. Most bars here have diamonds in them, so most all of my league play and all of our regional tournaments are on Diamonds bb's.
Still on the fence. I think a 9' would help with my stroke, but as many people have stated, speed, the break, and patters will be different and the 7' might be best....
See, this doesn't seem to me to be that big a deal really. Obviously if you set up any given shot situation the execution will be different on a 7 footer versus the 9' table. I don't think the patterns are always different as the geometry is the same. Usually it's a matter of speed to cover a shorter distance. But in any event a little warm up on the bar box before league should acclimate one to the smaller field of play. Plus he has lots of small boxes in his area to practice on if he wants to get some table time in before a tournament or big league night.
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Yeah my wording wasn't the best. What I tried to put into words was if say the OB and CB are in a certain position that's exactly the same on both tables (by that I mean same angle and OB same distance from the pocket on both tables) then if you hit the CB with bottom left for example the final resting point for the CB would be completely different on both tables if you go into a rail. The angles from rail 1 to 2 to 3 would be different too. Certainly not a deal breaker for getting a 9' table, but something I'd be thinking about if I was spending thousands on a new table.
To the OP;
A larger table won't automatically improve your stroke. It will highlight any flaws you may have in your stroke given the longer shots you'd be attempting. Larger tables give you info about whats going on with your stroke, or makes that info easier to view, so then you know what needs work.
I still stand by getting the 9 footer. There is obviously more room, so you can really let loose on some shots which can be really fun.
I had to make a similar decision 7 years ago and I decided to play on an oversized 8' (46 x 92). Its a small step up to a 9' and an easy step down to a 7'.
Today I am considering going to a 9' table simply because I am considering playing in tournaments again on 9' tables (going to Seattle and play).
If you don't want to play in 9' table tournaments I highly recommend an oversized 8' (46 x 92).
Today I am considering going to a 9' table simply because I am considering playing in tournaments again on 9' tables (going to Seattle and play).
If you don't want to play in 9' table tournaments I highly recommend an oversized 8' (46 x 92).
I second the "climate controlled" reasoning.
Convert your garage into an actual room and the 9' is the only way to go.
I played a 7' in my dinning room and loved it, but man when you get used to stroking the 9' those little bar boxes will make you feel pro
Convert your garage into an actual room and the 9' is the only way to go.
I played a 7' in my dinning room and loved it, but man when you get used to stroking the 9' those little bar boxes will make you feel pro
I vote for the 7' Diamond. I love mine and they play great.
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