Might depend on what passes for level - I could see getting enough masse with a “normally level” cue.
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90+ degree cut shot
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With a level cue, and with the object ball being away from the rail so that the cue ball cannot hit the rail prior to its last contact with the object ball?
Nope, neither he nor anyone else has backed up those claims because unless you go rail first (or unless you do something else outside the spirit of the shot being discussed such as scoop jump the cue ball to land slightly on the backside of the object ball etc), a >90° cut shot where the object ball has to travel more than a few inches cannot be done with a level cue and inside english.
Your 50% Correct!
The cue must be 'Elevated' slightly to catch the OB on the backside!
This 'Type/Method' of shot for 3C players also requires a particular stroke to be apllied!
I've demonstrated the shot with the CB Only '1 Diamond' away from the OB more than 200 times in the last 40 years!
Can you share a video? Would love to see it.
Do you have one without the rail in play? Maybe it's just the video but it looks like you just thinned the ball into the rail?
Are You or anyone suggesting/implying that 'I'm' Not contacting the 'Ball First'?
I think folks are saying the OB is rebounding off the rail, not being “back” cut away from it. Maybe that’s not what you were saying?
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In this position (video) it gives the player a reference for aiming with the 'tip' with extreme Inside!
Before You even go there about 'Squirt/Deflection', knowing the correct stroke & follow-thru technique is paramount!
I asked Buddy about this yrs ago and his thought was that on really thin cuts inside english deflected whitey away from the object ball. He said it 'thinned the hit'. I'm far from any champion but i've made a lot of razor thin ones using a lil inside.
Buddy was Correct, in the sense that the player follows- thru the same length as the bridge!
Playing it that way, the player can actually 'Aim the Tip at the Edge of the OB'!
The CB will 'Curve away from the OB' so one can catch it on the backside for extreme cuts!
This also depends on, 'How far the CB is from the OB'! The further away the more the curve!
Personally, I like to control All the elements of the shot with the correct technique!
SIT most certainly helps with extremely thin cuts. See:
For the pool math/physics nerds out there, see:
So does aiming a little thinner - without the complications of estimating the combined effects of spin/squirt/swerve/throw.
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Whatever dude. Your 'always right' drivel has gotten way post old. Nice to know your spew is better than what a HOF'r told me. Good to know. WTF.
Half a 'Thumbs up'!