A Curious CTE Diagram

So what. Are you calling Tyler a liar as well?
No, you're the one saying that .
Same BS move you pulled when I questioned Rodney Morris using CTE in beating the 13-ball ghost .
You manipulate like investigating cop.
I'm saying he doesn't tilt his head .
 
No, you're the one saying that .
Same BS move you pulled when I questioned Rodney Morris using CTE in beating the 13-ball ghost .
You manipulate like investigating cop.
I'm saying he doesn't tilt his head .
I never said Rodney used cte. I said what he said about it.
No one said Tyler is turning his head. He doesn't have to. If you understood center to edge aiming you would understand why.
 
To be fair, you stated that Lou described this "head tilt" process incorrectly and he claims he got the description from the book. He then asked for you to clarify what he supposedly got wrong. No reply from you in that regard. So in that instance, he backed up his comments and you have not.

I feel confident that I summarized what SS says about head tilt in his book accurately.

Lou Figueroa
 
One thing I'm confused about regarding CTE and this book. Some keep saying that it can't be diagramed for whatever reason. Yet we have access to a 400 page book that should, I hope, have at least a few illustrations focusing on the diagraming of the process/steps involved.

Yes/No..?

Why can't we just screen shot a couple of these pages and put this to bed already?

oh, there's tons of diagrams, and photos with all kinds of visual aids too.

IOWs, he diagramed the piss out of it, lol.

Lou Figueroa
 
Really ? https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/rodeny-morris-beats-the-13-ball-ghost-usng-cte.307955/

Rodeny Morris Beats the 13 ball Ghost usng CTE​

Are you saying Rodney lied ?
Lying about what? He have Stevie credit for teaching him some cte and that led to him stating that he was shooting better than ever before in a thread where he was sharing his accomplishment of beating the 13 ball ghost.

I don't think Rodney was lying about any of that. Do you?

As far as I know Rodney's statement about being shown some cte by Stevie was truthful. This is good statement.

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And thank you for reminding me of it. I will add it to the cte testimonials thread.
 
He described it as an awkward out of whack move. That’s not a description from the book. It’s an outright wrong assumption.
Our current discussion is over me saying Landon and Tyler were performing CTE in its final form. Lou disagreed, said I was wrong but cannot offer any clear evidence as to why he thinks I was wrong.

I described it, as in the book, accurately.

Separately, my opinion is that those kinds of maneuvers could throw a player out of whack. As to TS, I don't even recall mentioning him.

Lou Figueroa
 
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It’s copy righted material. And besides professional instructors information should not be reposted anywhere. That’s just plain wrong.

No it is not.

Fair use doctrine in the United States has established in numerous court cases that, in the interest of freedom of speech, material may be excerpted from copyrighted material without the owner's permission. There are issues concerning how much material and to what purpose, but broadly speaking it is fine for the purposes of comment, education, criticism, and my favorite: parody : -)

Lou Figueroa
 
This is what he posted... I'm struggling to find anything that even insinuates what you claim.

So my point remains. Lou posts what I would call an interpretation he gleened from the book (supposedly), and you say he's wrong. Care to back your reasoning..?

No, he can't -- it's on the money.

Lou Figueroa
 
Yea thats after Lou edited what he wrote.

That is totally incorrect.

The only thing I changed when I edited that post was the part concerning where the head tilt stuff appeared in the book to make it easier for others to find and maybe a typo.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Really ? https://forums.azbilliards.com/threads/rodeny-morris-beats-the-13-ball-ghost-usng-cte.307955/

Rodeny Morris Beats the 13 ball Ghost usng CTE​

Are you saying Rodney lied ?
Lying about what? He have Stevie credit for teaching him some cte and that led to him stating that he was shooting better than ever before in a thread where he was sharing his accomplishment of beating the 13 ball ghost.

I don't think Rodney was lying about any of that. Do you?

As far as I know Rodney's statement about being shown some cte by Stevie was truthful. This is good statement.

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And thank you for reminding me of it. I will add it to the cte testimonials thread.
I described it, as in the book, accurately.

Separately, my opinion is that those kinds of maneuvers could throw a player out of whack. As too TS, I don't even recall mentioning him.

Lou Figueroa
Could but doesn't. In the center to edge aiming system the player either has good fundamentals which are completely compatible with the instructed steps or a person adjusts their good fundamentals as needed to still be good and are compatible with the method of aiming where the eyes lead and the body follows. In fact all aiming done by humans is the eyes lead and the body follows.

But sometimes the eyes are not giving the correct information and the body follows to a shot line that is incorrect. With cte there are several objective references to use in order to get the eyes correctly calibrated and this technique leads the body to adopt the correct shot line consistently.
 
More BULLSH8.
You're pathological.
There is no tilting the head when he sets up.
I don't think you "tilt" your head in cte, you "poke it out." If you're proficient at doing so, you can come down on the shot correctly and it is pretty much "disguised." In other words you came down correctly and don't have to make adjustments at the table. The "poke out" doesn't only belong to CTE, it's about getting your eyes in the correct position so you're clearly seeing the shot picture. The entire point of the "poking your head out" is to show you what it does and train you to come down into that head position already. If you know you need to "poke left" you come down that way on the shot line. I know it sounds weird, but you're on a dead end if you think head shift will discredit or prove someone is using CTE. I've been doing it since before I learned the very basic CTE and still do it even though I'm not currently using CTE.

Now keep calling me a liar. You and I will meet again and I bet you won't repeat the slurs you feel comfortable saying when you're 1500 miles away.
Oooh, is that a bodily threat John?
Wait, you're a victim now. You can slander me but not the other way around.
I'd call you a LIAR IN YOUR FACE and we can man up in the parking lot if you want .
Make sure your wife is not there . She won't like the way you look after .
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As Efren aged he said this , " minsan di ko na alam saan ang butas o may butas ba."
Go ahead ask him .
When he was looking for Rolando the day Mark Wilson called him about the COM match.
He was at Alex's home in Riverside . I was there after Alex called me .
He's taught Alex a few pointers . Alex was his match maker and road manager often while he was here .

You can ask Efren who he gave the trophy he won at the Gabriel's Open in Las Vegas in 2003.
He did not give it to Alex Lao .
He made a tongue in cheek comment that reads like a wry comment on aging and this is relevant how?

So you got a trophy from Efren? Also not relevant.
 
I don't think you "tilt" your head in cte, you "poke it out." If you're proficient at doing so, you can come down on the shot correctly and it is pretty much "disguised." In other words you came down correctly and don't have to make adjustments at the table. The "poke out" doesn't only belong to CTE, it's about getting your eyes in the correct position so you're clearly seeing the shot picture. The entire point of the "poking your head out" is to show you what it does and train you to come down into that head position already. If you know you need to "poke left" you come down that way on the shot line. I know it sounds weird, but you're on a dead end if you think head shift will discredit or prove someone is using CTE. I've been doing it since before I learned the very basic CTE and still do it even though I'm not currently using CTE.
Mr. Boogieman, You are 100% correct. (y) (y) (y)
 
So what. Are you calling Tyler a liar as well?
Here's the problem with CTE testimonials: CTE is interpreted differently depending on the player. Even if you say it is Stan's CTE you still have variation. Stan and you and cookie look at ob last. mohrt looks at cb last. Stan shifts between cb and ob twice before shooting. I'm sure you and cookie do things differently. The point is we really don't know exactly what each player is doing or how close it is to "Stan's CTE." Freddie uses CTE but barely knew who Stan was. If we got with Styer or Morris for a half hour and went through it all do you really think they are going to relate the exact same process? They could very well say they already knew how to aim but this method forces structure so they are trying it. Who really knows?

I'm also assuming that Morris is not being compensated for his endorsement. I have to say it does read like an ad, though. Does Morris also teach CTE? That would be another conflict of interest if not a devastating one. I think an endorsement from a pro is a feather in the cap for CTE, but I'm not overly convinced by one liners. I want to know more about what they really do when using CTE.
 
Here's the problem with CTE testimonials: CTE is interpreted differently depending on the player. Even if you say it is Stan's CTE you still have variation. Stan and you and cookie look at ob last. mohrt looks at cb last. Stan shifts between cb and ob twice before shooting. I'm sure you and cookie do things differently. The point is we really don't know exactly what each player is doing or how close it is to "Stan's CTE." Freddie uses CTE but barely knew who Stan was. If we got with Styer or Morris for a half hour and went through it all do you really think they are going to relate the exact same process? They could very well say they already knew how to aim but this method forces structure so they are trying it. Who really knows?

I'm also assuming that Morris is not being compensated for his endorsement. I have to say it does read like an ad, though. Does Morris also teach CTE? That would be another conflict of interest if not a devastating one. I think an endorsement from a pro is a feather in the cap for CTE, but I'm not overly convinced by one liners. I want to know more about what they really do when using CTE.
Is Ghost Ball "interpreted" differently (as you've described) depending on the player?
Is Poolology "interpreted" differently (as you've described) depending on the player?
Is "Just See the Shot" "interpreted" differently (as you've described) depending on the player?
As a life long registered democrat, I demand "equal opportunity in interpretation".
As well as believing strongly in truth, justice, and the American way...I also hereby pledge allegiance to the philosophy of
"TO EACH HIS OWN" WHEN IT COMES TO AIMING POOL SHOTS.
 
Here's the problem with CTE testimonials: CTE is interpreted differently depending on the player. Even if you say it is Stan's CTE you still have variation. Stan and you and cookie look at ob last. mohrt looks at cb last. Stan shifts between cb and ob twice before shooting. I'm sure you and cookie do things differently. The point is we really don't know exactly what each player is doing or how close it is to "Stan's CTE." Freddie uses CTE but barely knew who Stan was. If we got with Styer or Morris for a half hour and went through it all do you really think they are going to relate the exact same process? They could very well say they already knew how to aim but this method forces structure so they are trying it. Who really knows?

I'm also assuming that Morris is not being compensated for his endorsement. I have to say it does read like an ad, though. Does Morris also teach CTE? That would be another conflict of interest if not a devastating one. I think an endorsement from a pro is a feather in the cap for CTE, but I'm not overly convinced by one liners. I want to know more about what they really do when using CTE.
Rodney is not connected to cte at all. The comment he made was during bonus ball. It was random and just something he mentioned in connection with his statement of beating the 13 ball ghost. During bonus ball a lot of pros were spending time together in Vegas at the special purpose venue.
 
Here's the problem with CTE testimonials: CTE is interpreted differently depending on the player. Even if you say it is Stan's CTE you still have variation. Stan and you and cookie look at ob last. mohrt looks at cb last. Stan shifts between cb and ob twice before shooting. I'm sure you and cookie do things differently. The point is we really don't know exactly what each player is doing or how close it is to "Stan's CTE." Freddie uses CTE but barely knew who Stan was. If we got with Styer or Morris for a half hour and went through it all do you really think they are going to relate the exact same process? They could very well say they already knew how to aim but this method forces structure so they are trying it. Who really knows?

I'm also assuming that Morris is not being compensated for his endorsement. I have to say it does read like an ad, though. Does Morris also teach CTE? That would be another conflict of interest if not a devastating one. I think an endorsement from a pro is a feather in the cap for CTE, but I'm not overly convinced by one liners. I want to know more about what they really do when using CTE.
Why are you saying Freddie barely knew who Stan was. That is not true and Freddie clarified this himself a week or so ago on this forum.
 
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