A none murdered animal cue please.
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I think I'm gonna go ahead and have my next cue made from solid ivory, with a baby seal fur wrap. And a custom case made from a hollowed out panda leg.
Oh, but I'm definitely gonna use one of those artificial leather tips as I'm totally against the use of leather products.
Oh, but I'm definitely gonna use one of those artificial leather tips as I'm totally against the use of leather products.
....ooohhh and the ferrules can be made from the fingers of the small children that were stomped to death by elephants in Africa. Hopefully the elephant missed their hands.cuetrip said:I think I'm gonna go ahead and have my next cue made from solid ivory, with a baby seal fur wrap. And a custom case made from a hollowed out panda leg.
Oh, but I'm definitely gonna use one of those artificial leather tips as I'm totally against the use of leather products.
Heath<----assuring himself a spot in hell
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Icon of Sin said:....ooohhh and the ferrules can be made from the fingers of the small children that were stomped to death by elephants in Africa. Hopefully the elephant missed their hands.
Heath<----assuring himself a spot in hell
Outstanding idea! And I want it built by child orphan slave labor in Communist China!
But the kids biological mother must also work in a sweat shop so you can get a free pair of Nike's... they will help you RUN out!cuetrip said:
BEST CUE EVER!!!!!
BEST THREAD EVER!!!!!!
seb9 said:
A natural thing?? What?? The natural state of things is that humans are omnivores and as such it is only natural to eat meat.
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"You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna get myself a 1967 Cadillac El Dorado convertible, hot pink with whaleskin hub caps and all leather cow interior and big brown baby seal eyes for headlights, yeah! And I'm gonna drive around in that baby at 115mph getting one mile per gallon, sucking down quarter pounder cheese burgers from McDonald's in the old-fashioned non-biodegradable styrofoam containers and when I'm done sucking down those grease ball burgers, I'm gonna toss the styrofoam container right out the side and there ain't a God damned thing anybody can do about it. YOu know why? Because we got the bombs, that's why."
as said by the man Denis Leary
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seb9 said:
There are many ways of obtaining Ivory. Piano keys for example. There were some exceptions to the 1990 ban. Here they are:
The following are the only exceptions to the ban on the importation
of ivory:
o Importation of legally taken sport-hunted trophies with
proper documentation is permitted from the following ele-
phant-producing countries: Botswana, Cameroon, Central
African Republic, Congo, Ethiopia, Malawi, Mozambique,
South Africa, Zambia, and Zimbabwe.
o Shipments of ivory (both commercial and non-commercial)
consigned to a carrier on or before June 9, 1989, will be
allowed to be imported into the United States.
o Items taken abroad for personal use prior to June 9, 1989,
by U.S. citizens may be reimported provided they were reg-
istered with U.S. Customs prior to exportation.
o Tourist souvenirs purchased before June 9, 1989 and im-
ported before July 9, 1989, are permitted with accompany-
ing documentation, such as a sales receipt.
The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service cautions that U.S. citizens should
take measures to protect ivory goods they already own but plan to take
out of the country. These items must be properly registered prior to
departure with a U.S. Customs officer by filling out a certificate of
registration (Customs Form 4457).
If a person acquires ivory not covered by these limited exemptions
and brings it into the United States, it is a violation of the law. The
goods will be seized and the traveler may be subject to a fine of
$5,000.
Americans planning to travel abroad should check with their local
U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service Law Enforcement or U.S. Customs offices for
information concerning ivory.
seb9 said:
hmmm...I liked it, but if you didn't, that's ok.
Seriously though Sebby, this is kinda how we roll around here. Someone brings up a concern or a sensitive subject and the following three stages ensue:
First-we make jokes and make fun of the subject
Next-the actual meat of the matter comes to the surface and it's addressed with good opinions and information.
Lastly-we make jokes and make fun of it again (for closure, ya know)
Many of us have a pretty twisted sense of humor and someone who's primary language is not english my not realize that we're just messing around.
Most of us can appreciate your conviction in your cause even if we don't agree with it. Just don't get preachy.
Welcome to the forum and best of luck finding a cue. And if you need info on a particular cue or cuemaker pertaining to their use of ivory, just pop on here and ask. We'll make jokes about it, then we'll answer your question, then we'll make fun of it again.
seb9 said:
I work for a McDermott dealer, not one of the God knows how many cues we stock have ivory in them. You need to look harder, or you’re just making this stuff up to try to push your agenda. Does anyone really believe that McDermott cues are made w/ exclusively ivory parts?
nyjoe14.1 said:
You need to read the thread,
People cleared that to me that the ivory on the stats lists are mock ivory or recon ivory.
I didn't know this before i started this thread.
And yes i did serve my agenda, find cues with out ivory on them and turns out there are a lot more then i thought, i was simply miss guided about the perception of parts being used to make a cue, i placed all my efforts into playing the game not cue making...
The only good thing about an elephant is the ivory that it provides. Other than that the just wander around eating/destroying crops, crushing people,
eating peanuts and remembering things. Elephants suck but I think they look great adorning my cues
Jake
eating peanuts and remembering things. Elephants suck but I think they look great adorning my cues
Jake
seb9 said:
Simple solution....if you are in the market for a cue, then you should order one from a custom cuemaker without any ivory. Isn't it nice to live in a country where we are free and have options.....
There is a lot of both good and bad research on the topic of ivory, the plight of elephants, etc. From what I can tell doing lots of research myself, they are doing better worldwide than 20-30 years ago, especially the African elephant. Elephants in Asia are not faring as well....it seems that the market in the orient for trinkets, carvings, etc. is having more of an impact on illegal ivory trade and poaching than making cues here in the US. Most cuemakers I know of here in the states, purchase and use pre-ban ivory that was harvested years ago. Good ivory has to be aged for years and years....you can't just cut a tusk off an elephant and cut it up for cues. Due to the demand (more and more cuemakers here in the states), it has gotten very expensive recently...hence the high cost for it used in cues.
BTW, you could use the same logic in an argument that fiberglass cues would be worse than cues made from wood....i.e. "producing the fiberglass is worse for the environment than harvesting the tree."
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Maybe I'm just in a foul mood today (long day at work), but man I really am disappointed at some posters I really respect from this thread.
Enough with the flaming of the new guy who had moral guts to want a product that didn't come at the expense of another being.
Peace out...
Maybe I'm just in a foul mood today (long day at work), but man I really am disappointed at some posters I really respect from this thread.
Enough with the flaming of the new guy who had moral guts to want a product that didn't come at the expense of another being.
Peace out...
seb9 said:
True...compassion is a great thing, certainly not NATURAL, but distinctly HUMAN.
Regarding the subject, since we are at the top of the food chain on this planet and basically hold the future of our civilization in our hands, it falls to us to manage species like the elephant, that face the possibility of extinction. Hope that all countries, not just ours, pitch in and do their part.