A real CTE shot for you to try.

Dan White

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There are no mystery perceptions. I haven't seen anyone claiming that a 2:1 ratio is why cte works.
In the immortal words of Gary Coleman, "Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?". Stan says it at 4:20 in this video. He says "2x1" maybe 20 times in this one video so it seems kind of important. I think he says "2x1" in probably every video he has ever made. Second place would have to be "over cut alignment."

 

cookie man

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If that happened it would be at the point where I acquire the AL and SL. However, when I do this I keep the shaft out of the way and off the table. Next, I look at the inner edge of the cb and let my peripheral vision find ccb. I then place the cue at this point with the tip at that ccb and the shaft going under my vision. I do not look back at the ob because I do not want to lose the NISL that I just found.

Why do you look at ob last and why does Stan look back and forth between cb and ob twice before shooting? Don't you risk losing the NISL possibly? What is the purpose of looking at the ob?
I'm sure Stan has been taught a personal eye pattern. It's one of the things PBIA instructors teach. I look at the OB last because i believe that's how pool is supposed to be played. I have several practice routines with CTE that i don't look at the OB last. Another dead end for you.
 

cookie man

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The only rails visible on one of Stan's bank videos is the rail underneath him and maybe the near corner of the table. Making those bank shots suggests either 1) a geometric relationship between the ball alignment and the pockets, 2) success based on experience at banks or HAMB, or 3) the mysterious phenomena does not actually require you to see the rails you are shooting towards.
So Stan can still see rails and then the experience of the different CTE visuals takes over. In your efforts to discredit CTE your mind just keeps wondering with no credible, proof backed thoughts.
 

cookie man

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Now I am confused. Forget bank shots. Will non banked shots work on only 2x1 tables or on any size table as long as there is a pocket at the corner?
How confusing is it. 3 of us have told you yes, you can use CTE to make balls in a pocket on a chopped off table. But CTE is not about that. CTE is about 6 known perceptions, 15-30-45, with an inside and outside sweep that lead to ALL SIX POCKETS. Breaking it down like you want to is not CTE in it's entirety.
 

cookie man

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Dan the wordsmith. Everybody had you pegged early on. Constantly trying to take mole hills and make them mountains by twisting people's words.

Here's a little advice. Stick to learning from Mohrt. You are way over your head with the rest of the bullshit you are guessing at.

Learn what a sight line is and it's exact relationship with the CB and OB and table.
 

Patrick Johnson

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CTE is about 6 known perceptions, 15-30-45, with an inside and outside sweep that lead to ALL SIX POCKETS.
And 15+30+45=90, therefore CTE works on a 2:1 table.


Numerology is the belief in the divine or mystical relationship between a number and one or more coinciding events.
It is often associated with the paranormal, alongside astrology and similar to divinatory arts.

pj
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In the immortal words of Gary Coleman, "Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Willis?". Stan says it at 4:20 in this video. He says "2x1" maybe 20 times in this one video so it seems kind of important. I think he says "2x1" in probably every video he has ever made. Second place would have to be "over cut alignment."

And? Since we don't play on tables with any other ratio this point is moot.
 

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Now I am confused. Forget bank shots. Will non banked shots work on only 2x1 tables or on any size table as long as there is a pocket at the corner?
If you are trying to pocket a ball directly into a hole on an infinite plane and the pocket and both balls are in your view then there is a cte solution that can be used to find the shot line.

The reason is because every hole in that situation is the intersection of a 90 degree corner. And since we know that cte works for shots to 90 degree corners and a 90 degree corner is part of a perfect square and part of a perfect rectangle it follows that there is a cte perception that works here.
 

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If that happened it would be at the point where I acquire the AL and SL. However, when I do this I keep the shaft out of the way and off the table. Next, I look at the inner edge of the cb and let my peripheral vision find ccb. I then place the cue at this point with the tip at that ccb and the shaft going under my vision. I do not look back at the ob because I do not want to lose the NISL that I just found.

Why do you look at ob last and why does Stan look back and forth between cb and ob twice before shooting? Don't you risk losing the NISL possibly? What is the purpose of looking at the ob?
Possibly because the bridge is squishy and he wants to be set before shooting. I have missed easy shots despite being dead perfect on the shot line because I couldn't focus on the hit.
 

Patrick Johnson

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...you personally can't make balls with [CTE] by your own admission.
Now you're just making stuff up...

I wouldn't bother trying such a nonsensical, overcomplicated, mystical mumbo jumbo version of fractional aiming. I also wouldn't bother trying the Click My Heels and Touch My Nose system.

pj
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cookie man

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Now you're just making stuff up...

I wouldn't bother trying such a nonsensical, overcomplicated, mystical mumbo jumbo version of fractional aiming. I also wouldn't bother trying the Click My Heels and Touch My Nose system.

pj
chgo
I get it PJ. Makes much more sense to spend 20plus years and 1000"s of posts against CTE instead of trying to learn it.

Don't you actually do some kind of "touch your nose system". No that's right. It's the lizard head bob that you do.
 

Patrick Johnson

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Makes much more sense to spend 20plus years and 1000"s of posts against CTE instead of trying to learn it.
What's to learn? I've never tried a shot with CTE (likely never will), and as far as I can tell I understand it better than any of the CTE experts here. That's not bragging - it isn't much of a feat.

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Dan White

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I'm sure Stan has been taught a personal eye pattern. It's one of the things PBIA instructors teach.
So Stan reinvents how to look at pool balls with CTE yet he still looks at the ob last because that is how he learned? Not a convincing explanation.

I look at the OB last because i believe that's how pool is supposed to be played. I have several practice routines with CTE that i don't look at the OB last. Another dead end for you.
Again, not convincing in bold considering everything about CTE is different from traditional aiming, or that's what you guys keep saying. More importantly, what I'm getting at is why mohrt gets a different result than I do. One of those differences is that he is looking at ob last (best I can tell from his video but not actually sure) while I am looking at cb last. If you weren't so defensive all the time we would be able to consider whether that is important in explaining the difference.
 

Dan White

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So Stan can still see rails and then the experience of the different CTE visuals takes over. In your efforts to discredit CTE your mind just keeps wondering with no credible, proof backed thoughts.
I haven't discredited anything. In case you hadn't noticed I am using the occasion of monty's thread to ask detailed questions about CTE so that I am sure we are on the same page. mohrt seems interested to figure out the "why's" to the point that he is getting two lasers. Much of what is said about CTE is vague, like the 2x1 table thing, and I am trying to understand what is a real requirement in order for CTE to "work" and what is fluff. Your explanation above looks more like fluff or a guess. You are saying that if you can only see the rail under where you are shooting that gives you enough information for success?
 
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Dan White

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And? Since we don't play on tables with any other ratio this point is moot.
What do you mean "and?" You claimed that nobody has ever said that 2x1 is a requirement for CTE to work and I showed you a clip where Stan says it won't work unless the table is 2x1. The point is not moot. Again, the 2x1 requirement is like the first commandment of CTE. If you want to understand how CTE works then knowing why a 2x1 table matters is important.
 

Dan White

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If you are trying to pocket a ball directly into a hole on an infinite plane and the pocket and both balls are in your view then there is a cte solution that can be used to find the shot line.

The reason is because every hole in that situation is the intersection of a 90 degree corner. And since we know that cte works for shots to 90 degree corners and a 90 degree corner is part of a perfect square and part of a perfect rectangle it follows that there is a cte perception that works here.
But do you really need to see where that corner is? cookie said you only have to see the rail underneath where you are shooting to make it work. At least that's what I think he said. I asked him again. This comes from Stan's video where everything is curtained off except the rail underneath him.

As a side note, I just saw this bit of propaganda and you call me "innocent Dan"? Maybe that makes you John the Baptised?

 

Dan White

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Possibly because the bridge is squishy and he wants to be set before shooting. I have missed easy shots despite being dead perfect on the shot line because I couldn't focus on the hit.
Maybe you could ask him if he looks at the ob last because he has a squishy bridge?
 
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