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A shot that i dont ever see practiced or really talked about and is a must shot to know how to hit .The stun forward shot,how important is that shot???
 
? what do you mean exactly with a *stun forward shot* ?
Please use the cuetable layout- interested to see what you mean^^
 
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? what do you mean exactly with a *stun forward shot* ?
Please use the cuetable layout- interested to see what you mean^^

I would imagine he is talking about a shot I call the stop and roll. A stop or stun that runs out of gas and rolls forward slightly after not stopping dead in it's tracks. To me stun shots are usually long shots, but I guess any distance could work. Technically I suppose a stop shot that rolls forward would be a stun shot. Stop shot must stop or it's not a stop shot. If I shoot a stop shot that doesn't stop it's still a stop shot, I just didn't execute it well!?!? Stun shots are fantastic speed killers and killing speed is huge!
 
I would think the OP is talking about a straight in shot where the CB goes forward slightly, not by rolling but by sliding.

I guess it is important, but no moreso than any other single shot.
 
I think he's talking about a "drag shot" or "stun follow"...if so, I disagree, I think no game is complete without it. I use it at least every other rack of 8 ball or 14.1. It's critical to staying in line on a crowded table, where a stop shot isn't good enough and there isn't enough room to use a rail for shape. There was an extensive thread about this shot a few weeks back...
 
The stun forward shot is a great shot to know and be able to execute. I use it quite often when I don't want to slow roll something or need to be able to control the object ball's speed in one pocket. I find it much harder to control on faster cloth (I tend to roll forward too much).

I think if you play a lot of one pocket, this type of shot comes in handy more often than in other games, mostly because in one pocket, the need to hit the object ball at varying speeds while controlling the cue ball comes up more often.
 
I would think the OP is talking about a straight in shot where the CB goes forward slightly, not by rolling but by sliding.

I guess it is important, but no moreso than any other single shot.


Who said anything about being more important than any other shot?
 
I would think the OP is talking about a straight in shot where the CB goes forward slightly, not by rolling but by sliding.

This is the shot im talking about.This type of hit comes up every now in then
on some safety shots also.
 
Ahh, Elvicash beat me too it :-)
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Are you talking about the same shot Joe Tucker describes here?

That's one of my favorite shots, and it seems like a lot of the older 14.1 players used to use it quite a bit. It comes in pretty handy, especially on tables that are less than ideally leveled.
 
I would think the OP is talking about a straight in shot where the CB goes forward slightly, not by rolling but by sliding.
The CB must have some forward rotation in order to go forward after hitting an OB straight on. The "stun rollthrough" shot is hit so that it attains some but not all forward rotation before hitting the OB. In other words, it's not fully sliding, but not fully rolling either - as if you hit a stop shot on an OB that's a few inches closer.

pj
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I suppose a stop shot that rolls forward would be a stun shot.
A stun shot and a stop shot are hit the same - they're both sliding (no forward or backward rotation) when they hit the OB. The only difference is whether the shot itself is straight or a cut - if it's straight, then the CB stops (stop shot) and if it's a cut, then the CB caroms off along the tangent line (stun shot).

pj
chgo
 
A shot that i dont ever see practiced or really talked about and is a must shot to know how to hit .The stun forward shot,how important is that shot???

Extremely important, IMO. It's shot #1 in Bert Kinister's lessons on DVD/VHS.

Fred
 
The Stun Forced Follow shot!

A shot that i dont ever see practiced or really talked about and is a must shot to know how to hit .The stun forward shot,how important is that shot???

The stun forced follow shot is just what is says, it is one shot that I have a hard time explaining how to execute, but I'll give it a go!

You have a straight in shot ( 3 to 4 feet from cue ball to object ball) where you need the cue ball to follow up slightly for shape for the next object ball about an inch or two, most people that don't know the shot will shoot easy and follow the cue ball with alight tough., and sometimes the cue ball will roll off and you mis the ball.

The way to do the stun shot is shoot your cue with 1/4 or less tip high from dead center of the cue ball and shoot with a very hard stroke , the cue ball will just float up like in slow motion for the shape on the next object ball.

All I can say is line up the shot from about 3 or 4 feet distance from cue to object ball, and shoot the shot in the manner I suggested, after about 5 minutes and some trial and error adjusting you will have it mastered.

That is about as close of a discription as I can give, but that is how I do it, and it works for me!

It is almost the same as a stop shot, but with higher tip above dead center.

hope this helps!


David Harcrow
 
In my opinion, these are key shots along with a stun cut shot. Basically, these are all forms of a stop shot. The key ffor the slight follow, is you think you can just hit follow super slow, but that will make most people miss. You neeed to learn how to it is slightly harder, but still only get 1 or 2 revolutions of follow and of course also draw. The third one is hitting a skidding cue ball into the OB and having it slide a predictable amount perpendicular to the line of aim.
 
catpool9:
The way to do the stun shot is shoot your cue with 1/4 or less tip high from dead center of the cue ball and shoot with a very hard stroke , the cue ball will just float up like in slow motion for the shape on the next object ball.
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... line up the shot from about 3 or 4 feet distance from cue to object ball
You can actually hit the shot high or low on the CB, and from any distance - you just have to adjust the speed so the CB just begins to attain partial forward rotation.

pj
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It's also shown and explained on Dr. Dave's Video Encyclopedia, with Tom Ross demonstrating.

I've heard the shot called various things: "stun forward", "stun run-through" and "force follow". I don't think "force follow" is the proper term for it but I heard Jim Rempe call it that on an Accu-Stats video. I always thought force follow just meant a hard follow shot where the cue ball is really forced to run (the cue ball hesitates, then zooms forward).

The stun-forward is a common shot over middle and longer distances, especially in straight pool. It's a better alternative to babying the ball or a "drag draw" in most instances, since a slow hit ball (either cue ball or object ball) can roll off.
 
This is the 'stun/stop shot' that doesn't stop dead, but leaks forward a little.

If, I try to have it creep forward after ob contact, it will stop dead. The cb can be ornery.
 
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