A weekend with Ron Vitello

cleary said:
Shortly after, I put 2 and 2 together and moved my cue under my left eye. Now, I'm dead center on the cueball and it actually looks dead center.
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This is exactly the illusion that was fixed for me too. I would line up a ball center-to-center and it wouldn't "look" center to center. My mind had to make up for the difference. I had to guess at the shot. Over time the guess got better and better, but some days it would be further off than others.

When I got my left eye over the shot, now center-to-center "looks" like center-to-center. No more guessing!
 
MOJOE said:
Cleary,

When are you going to get Ron to make a video.. I know you mentioned it a while back, I'd be in line if it ever comes to be!!

Peace!
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Add me to that list please.

I spoke with RonV once. He helped me over the phone. If he publishes something.-I'll buy it. For sure.
 
I'm one of the rare players who are right handed/left eye dominant.

When I realized this, I noticed a huge improvement in my long-range accuracy. I had to adjust my stance just a little to compensate, but I'm playing better than I did when my non-dominant eye was directly over my cue.

I still think that's Ron's assertion that unfrozen object balls can't be thrown is wrong, though. :)
 
I would like to spend the day with Ron but never got this answer from him.
How much does he charge?
 
cleary said:
Like I said, we are all different and see different. There is a reason John Morra lines up the way he does and I'm sure there is a reason Keith continued to line up the way he did (other than the... he learned to play young). People see differently, I know from experience.

I was getting some help from az poster "GMAC" one day last summer. He had me hitting long stop shots and was checking my form. Every time I lined up, my tip was off center to the left. My stroke would try to compensate for this, but it looked perfectly center to me. I never knew I lined up like this until that day.

Shortly after, I put 2 and 2 together and moved my cue under my left eye. Now, I'm dead center on the cueball and it actually looks dead center.

I'm sure if I put in 10 hours a day for 10 years I could learn to play great no matter where I line up.
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not true about the 10 hours a day thing.
some people just won ever be a real good player.
im that way in golf.
 
Most casual ocular dominance tests ignore the known fact that it can shift depending on the angle of the target in the vision field. This may or may not have implications for some users of Stan Shuffett's basic CTE and Pro One system, or of other systems.

Not everyone has a dominant eye. Some small percentage of the general population has "central ocular dominance". The percentage of successful baseball players with central ocular dominance is significantly higher than that of the general population.

It would be interesting to test a large group of relatively high end billiards/pool/snooker players. This might actually be easy enough, cheap enough, and useful enough, that a researcher interested in this area could get funding for it.

There's a large body of literature on this subject. If you care about it, look up "ocular dominance" in Wikipedia and dig through the references section. References 2 and 7 are good starting places.
 
I believe they tested some top snooker players in the mid to late 80’s and achieved similar results. Most of the players tested had been playing since their youth, so it may well be that the longer you have been playing the more likely you are of preventing/overriding one eye’s dominance. Of course this would be easier to prove if the subjects were tested at different intervals from beginner to pro. I have been playing since age 7 (39 years). I am ambidextrous and started to incorporate left handed play at age 13. I prefer my right hand and show no dominance there, although I clearly sight with my right eye when playing with my left hand.
When I first sought my snooker coaching credentials I collaborated on a paper with my coach at the time. It investigated a range of variables including light intensity, colour, distance and spatial relationship, and their effects on aiming/sighting. I cannot put my hands on it at the moment; it was over 20 years ago. If I can find it I will post it on this forum.
 
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