I am expecting a pardon for the mob that attempted to murder government representatives, too...My tournament director just got a full pardon from Joe Biden., for what he did and for what he might have done.
It can very much change the strategy on both tables if the number of tables is switched in the middle of the match, at a time where one game matters. Leagues in America the way they are run, is one of the biggest reasons why we can no longer produce top talent. ESPECIALLY APA.Sometimes it's not about how much time you will save. I don't know what time it was, but if they were risking being kicked out at closing time there would be a whole lot of other issues to deal with. If there was no danger of that, then it's the finals so don't push it, who cares if it ends ten minutes later. There have been many times over the years when, to keep a tournament on schedule, I asked two teams to start the next match on a different table. I always get "But if so-and-so wins this game, it's over." So-and-so hardly ever wins this game (Murphy's Law), and often they're still playing that match half an hour later. My only point is the TD has his/her reasons for making decisions, and without knowing those reasons it's hard to comment.
It's league pool....so 30 to 45 minutes.Lol the tie breaker would have been 1 game of pool. what are you saving 10 mins? Lol
YawnI am expecting a pardon for the mob that attempted to murder government representatives, too...
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Oh, at this point.. I just want him to implement every single one of the policies he ran on, and that you guys voted for. And I really do mean that. I am not being facetious, even a little bit.Yawn
You lost...and are the minority....deal with it.
Hey.. I'm not the one who started it. But I will dayum sure wallow with the pigs....Jeeze, league pool and NPR in one thread?! Yuk, unsubscribing.
Did the money go to 3rd/4th? Did they get adjusted to 1st/2nd?Saw some comments about the match taking to long. I really don't think it did. The first match started at 3PM went to the hill and ended just after 4:30PM. We took a quick break and started the second match around 4:40 and ended before 5:45.
ACS is a bit shit to be honest. I went to the state championship with a few buddies. One buddy got 2nd in the "standard" class 8 ball and was on the winning team of teams 8 ball. I think he got like $300 total. Gas, hotel and $7.50 beers ate that up pretty quickly. I think he left in the red and he really didn't drink over 6 or 8 beers over 3 days.My wife just got back from this tournament. She had left when this happened.
The top two teams were battling for 1st/2nd place. The match is held on two tables. Apparently they were running behind so the tournament director wanted them to also play on a third table. Both teams refused and got in her face about it, so she DQ’ed both teams. Neither got paid and all were kicked out of ACS. Police had to come and escort them out.
If anyone was there and can flesh this out with more details or perspective please do. Crazy!
I've gotten pretty decent at discerning the truth in these matters after reading the accounts on AZ. I'm pegging your post at about 99% truthfulness. I haven't heard too many good things about ACS in recent years.I was on the team that took first.
We won the first match on the hill 9-8, which was played continuously on 3 tables until round 4 was over. When it was tied 8-8 we started the 5 round, which is a single rack to decide the win.
Coming out of the losers bracket we had to double dip for first place and got put on the same tables we just played on. Again, we played continuously on 3 tables up to round 4. The score is 8-6 us, the last 2 matches of round 4 are being played at the same time.
A player from the other team came over and said the ref told us we have to be playing on 3 tables. He said that he explained the situation and the ref said he didn't care and his word was final.
We wanted to finish round 4 before we started round 5. This is what every team we played did over the course of the tournament. (The comments about us agreeing to refuse starting the match are around this I guess)
The TD (ACS ED) then got on the overhead speakers saying something about continuous play but it was really hard to hear. Me and the person from the other team went over to the desk to understand whats going on.
The TD would not talk about it, listen to what we had to say. It's continuous play start the match.
Me and the other team mate walked back to the table, he racked the balls and I went to the bathroom. (I didn't screw around, seriously went to the bathroom and walked back). I get back to the table the balls are racked and seconds later one of our teammates won their game and it was over. Later I found out that she came over to the tables while I was in the bathroom and claimed that I was screwing around with the person on the other team.
We're really happy, played all weekend, came back through the losers bracket and won! The other team comes up to us and said that they were disqualified, no trophy, no cash.
We walk over and were told the same thing. DQ'd because we didn't play continuously. The TD is laughing at us and appeared to be enjoying this way too much. When people were met with laughters and dead ears they became very frustrated. This is were things escalated, people felt helpless and dumbfounded by what just happened.
A good tournament director knows how to deescalate tense situations. In the finals people's emotions are always high, it's a stressful situation for both teams especially after being double dipped. These high emotions mixed with a petty power trip from an ACS executive director laughing in your face is asking for drama.
If we were disqualified then why let the game keep going?
I don't know about anybody else but I couldn't quite understand what Spot was trying to explain to us. Maybe someone can help me out there.I was on the team that took first.
We won the first match on the hill 9-8, which was played continuously on 3 tables until round 4 was over. When it was tied 8-8 we started the 5 round, which is a single rack to decide the win.
Coming out of the losers bracket we had to double dip for first place and got put on the same tables we just played on. Again, we played continuously on 3 tables up to round 4. The score is 8-6 us, the last 2 matches of round 4 are being played at the same time.
A player from the other team came over and said the ref told us we have to be playing on 3 tables. He said that he explained the situation and the ref said he didn't care and his word was final.
We wanted to finish round 4 before we started round 5. This is what every team we played did over the course of the tournament. (The comments about us agreeing to refuse starting the match are around this I guess)
The TD (ACS ED) then got on the overhead speakers saying something about continuous play but it was really hard to hear. Me and the person from the other team went over to the desk to understand whats going on.
The TD would not talk about it, listen to what we had to say. It's continuous play start the match.
Me and the other team mate walked back to the table, he racked the balls and I went to the bathroom. (I didn't screw around, seriously went to the bathroom and walked back). I get back to the table the balls are racked and seconds later one of our teammates won their game and it was over. Later I found out that she came over to the tables while I was in the bathroom and claimed that I was screwing around with the person on the other team.
We're really happy, played all weekend, came back through the losers bracket and won! The other team comes up to us and said that they were disqualified, no trophy, no cash.
We walk over and were told the same thing. DQ'd because we didn't play continuously. The TD is laughing at us and appeared to be enjoying this way too much. When people were met with laughters and dead ears they became very frustrated. This is were things escalated, people felt helpless and dumbfounded by what just happened.
A good tournament director knows how to deescalate tense situations. In the finals people's emotions are always high, it's a stressful situation for both teams especially after being double dipped. These high emotions mixed with a petty power trip from an ACS executive director laughing in your face is asking for drama.
If we were disqualified then why let the game keep going?