Be nice if everyone played by or with the same good rules...just might get rid of some of them ol "grey areas". Them ol grey areas just screw the game of pool up more than it already is.jmho of course
. John B.

This is why I play pool with John Henderson, we actually were playing a set last week and we were betting pretty good and I had a coin on the rail and a ball in my pocket and I asked John if I owed one because I thought I had spotted it but wasn't sure and John said I had spotted it. The guy in the post would never have done that. Unless of of course he just did it because he had the nuts.
I hadn't noticed that detail. I think most people and even one pocket players would agree that you don't have to call a ball frozen multiple times per inning. Imagine a player running six balls when the 10 is frozen down on the head rail. "10's froze" plunk "10's froze" plunk "10's still froze" plunk "10's froze" whack "10's froze" dribble "10's froze" plunk. That would be stupid.
I hadn't noticed that detail. I think most people and even one pocket players would agree that you don't have to call a ball frozen multiple times per inning. Imagine a player running six balls when the 10 is frozen down on the head rail. "10's froze" plunk "10's froze" plunk "10's still froze" plunk "10's froze" whack "10's froze" dribble "10's froze" plunk. That would be stupid.
I don't think anyone meant that, just if a ball is called froze and four innings later the guy lays on the ball without being warned again he has not fouled.
How long is he supposed to have to remember this?
Four innings in a one pocket game could take 15 minutes. Half the time the players can't remember who broke last much every detail of the game they are playing. How many times do they have to check the score or ask how many they need?
It is unreasonable to put that burden on the shooter and equally unfair to have a guy jump up four innings later and yell foul due to a frozen ball called 15 minutes ago that may not even be frozen anymore if checked.
I don't think anyone meant that, just if a ball is called froze and four innings later the guy lays on the ball without being warned again he has not fouled.
How long is he supposed to have to remember this?
Four innings in a one pocket game could take 15 minutes. Half the time the players can't remember who broke last much every detail of the game they are playing. How many times do they have to check the score or ask how many they need?
It is unreasonable to put that burden on the shooter and equally unfair to have a guy jump up four innings later and yell foul due to a frozen ball called 15 minutes ago that may not even be frozen anymore if checked.
^^^ This. Although having to require a ball being agreed to be frozen ahead of the shot [at it] is one thing; it's a ridiculous pedantic thing to have to agree on it "still being frozen" on each and every shot within the same inning. I know if I realized I were playing someone that required this, I'd get out of the game and not play that person again.
-Sean
You and me both Sean. In fact if I have a problem like this with a guy during the course of a game, I will let him know this is my last game, WIN OR LOSE!