Does Ryan even play anymore? Last time I saw him, about 10-12 years ago he joined the poker boom. I remember him knee high running around Mac's when his mom would bring him and Ricki in.
Brandon gets it.
The other two don't.
In 20+ years of being around pool, I have never seen in a match involving races where one player paid another player to quit. Maybe I am in the minority. .
Yea, it sure wasn't 50-50 with the other guy breaking hill hill. That was a 200 gift!
I think you're in the minority, at least if we're talking about players who are involved in gambling (as opposed to posters who never took a dime out of their pocket, but have all the answers for you).
Not that it happens a lot, but I've seen it enough and I even had a small buyout on me once. Once. Very small.
Buying out for half is what I've normally seen. (And again, I've only seen it a handful of times).
Freddie
You have seen sets go hill hill and one player then quits buying out for half???
I thought I would relay from time to time some of the gambling scenes I have witnessed over the years. Not that I am some big time gambler but have seen a lot thru the years.
Two locals, Ryan and a player from Chicago, were playing 9 ball, races to 11 for 1000 jellybeans. Both of these players have grown up gambling from the time they could count to 10. Ryan's father is a well known St Louis pool icon (for lack of a better word) and instilled just a tad bit of heart into his son. Here is the story:
The first set- nothing goes Ryan's way and he loses 11-0. It was a complete wipe out and he never had a chance. Without hesitation, Ryan pulls a quarter out of his pocket and says call it, ready to play a second set. Now this act of confidence was the first of two points that Ryan made that day which swayed the final result of this story that you will read. I need to add that Ryan was betting his own money (maybe with a small corporation involved in part of the bet) and Chicago player was getting staked. The other player's backer puts up the cabbage for the second set and they carry on.
Ryan wins the second set 11-0 equaling the blanking he had just received. I'm sure the Chicago player and his backer's head were spinning thinking they had a sure 2000 win for the day before the start of the second set. Obviously Ryan had other intentions.
They carry on to a third set, again same wager. This time it is much closer as the score remains close throughout. Ryan gets to the hill first but the other player joins him on the next game and the score is tied 10-10. The other player's backer asks Ryan if he wants to start over and double the bet or increase the bet. Ryan answers without hesitation - no I want to play one game for 1000. The other player's backer asks him again trying to convince him - don't you want to start over??, my man is breaking. Again Ryan answers - no I want to play one game for 1000.
Now we have reached the second act that Ryan took that day to get paid. His brashness and gamble was more than player and his backer wanted. The other player's backer tells Ryan - we are not going to play one game for 1000. Ryan replies - well that is what I want to do. If you don't want to play and the money is obviously posted, you can buy out for 200. The backer agreed and hands Ryan 200.![]()
Oh no, definitely not. I thought by reading your post you just were asking about buying out in the middle of a set. I didn't see anything on hill/hill.
Freddie
Did you even read the first post ??? --- you failed comprehension today buddy.![]()
watchez said:In 20+ years of being around pool, I have never seen in a match involving races where one player paid another player to quit. Maybe I am in the minority. If anything I have seen an argument and a power move is done where one player simply takes his money back and says what are you going to do about it.
They "other player" has zero gamble. Here is a quick story of the "other player" and a guy playing one pocket once. I was betting on my player whose name was steve. The "other player" that you (watchez) speak of was up 5 or 6 games and had not lost a single game yet. Steve won 2 in a row and now the "other player" is up 3 or 4 and unscrews his cue and quits.
THat is the quick version...I've never gave the "other player" action since.
Nothing serious Dennis. Every once in awhile in the basement on a gaffed up 3 1/2 x 8 table. Played in the last Break tournament and got in trouble for simply having too much fun during his match.
I know we all miss Fat Bill and what he did for pool in the STL area.
They "other player" has zero gamble. Here is a quick story of the "other player" and a guy playing one pocket once. I was betting on my player whose name was steve. The "other player" that you (watchez) speak of was up 5 or 6 games and had not lost a single game yet. Steve won 2 in a row and now the "other player" is up 3 or 4 and unscrews his cue and quits.
THat is the quick version...I've never gave the "other player" action since.
Must have been a real "gaffed" up table if it was a 3 1/2 x 8!![]()
Those are the demensions. Black cloth, black pockets, no light over the table. Probably gets more action than any other table in St Louis.
You have an open invite, anytime.
Those are the demensions. Black cloth, black pockets, no light over the table. Probably gets more action than any other table in St Louis.
You have an open invite, anytime.
I want to try it. Hopefully I can make it to St. Louis and get an invite to play some on that table. I like to try out folks on their equipment and see how I do.
Deal JB. You have an open invite as well. And for my racist comment for the day - bring one of your Chinese friends with you to play some pong pong as well.[/Q
POW,POW
Deal JB. You have an open invite as well. And for my racist comment for the day - bring one of your Chinese friends with you to play some pong pong as well.[/Q
POW,POW
I guarantee you you do not want any part of my Chinese ping pong friends. Unless you are a national class player you have zero shot against club level players here.