Forget DCP for a moment & what he asked for.
In my scenario where would you shoot the 1 ball?
Advice On This Shot
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In my scenario where would you shoot the 1 ball?
Obviously, the corner, if we have only the position shown and no other restriction and have to make a ball.
But that's not what I would do if the shot shown was from a game of eight ball or straight pool or bank pool or one pocket.
(DCP clearly made a mistake when he didn't present the shot as a proposition shot: "How many tries do you need to cut the one in the side? How would you play it?" That's what he should have said to start with.)
JFC
This shot is a choice by the OP.
There is absolutely nothing saying if you had no choice.
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If you're shooting the shot in question with inside, it's going to be a bit more than a bunt. Threads like these need a break down of the pertinent conditions ie. You tube/pool room/home/outdoor/etc... Is there a Dr. Dave index for this purpose? Mission critical shotmaking (MCS) for the serious pool player...
Of course you hit it harder or hard enough to make it go. Decisions like that are locked in before firing.
If you have it arrive as a stun shot, the effect of the side spin is increased. With some distance, the draw helps you get "retrograde" outside, where the contact side of the cue ball is moving back towards you.
How much of that is cancelled by forward motion?
While I'm thinking it, will higher speed propel the object ball into the drop zone before it can wander off line?
The speed of the surface of the cue ball backwards towards you and rubbing on object ball to throw it back towards you, is roughly 10% of the speed of the cue ball forward. For the purpose of throw, that's a good speed.
Are you talking about a little low outside or are you doing a drag shot?
I love these. Max outside w a touch of low if you can stomach it.
You raise the questions I had. Bob is willing to bet the shot adding another diamond against someone, a far different animal. Nobody in the world can make this ball or any other with a perfect 90 degree hit. The ball doesn't move. So now we have to cheat some angle into the shot one way or another. Personally, in a real world situation with typical pool hall cloth and balls I'll automatically raise the back of the cue up enough to make it a semi masse shot. The only way I will shoot this shot to make it in that side pocket. It is a hard shot but not that hard. It's like back cutting a ball. Once you know how and take the shot when it comes up, it isn't that hard.
I am going to masse this shot enough to make it closer to an eighty-five degree shot than a ninety degree shot. At very close to ninety degrees you can whiff the ball giving the other player ball in hand. You can not transfer enough energy to reach the hole. The corner for the cue ball comes into play, either corner since the other balls were just added to the set-up as an afterthought and aren't necessarily there. A lot of things get easier to perform and control with closer to an eighty-five degree shot and medium speed or a bit less.
I shoot old school with the back of the cue elevated slightly on most shots. Not a big deal to elevate it another three or four inches.
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Is that with inside english?
He would have played safe.
I guess I kick at it 2 rails because I dont think it will go on a regular cut shot. That cut is 90 degrees measuring at the ball centerlines but we dont play cuts by hitting at ball centerlines, to cut this in the side the right side of the cue ball must contact the left side of the object ball which means that you will need to cut this over 90 degrees, I think.
I stuck a straight edge in between and you got maybe 87, 85 degrees slopping off the far tit. 90 goes center pocket.
that’s how i always do it, with inside
aim to miss the extreme left edge of the ball and masse the cueball into it
don’t need much speed
the more elevated the butt of the cue
the less speed needed
low low right inside