Affect/Effect Your/You're
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What exactly are they supposed to be allotting?
I mean if they're allotting, that would make it plural and would require are...
Jaden
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I don’t like seeing apostrophe’s where they don’t belong.
Effect and affect sometimes get me. I feel like I’ve looked up that sitch before and was still confused. Maybe I dreamed it.
Effect and affect sometimes get me. I feel like I’ve looked up that sitch before and was still confused. Maybe I dreamed it.
Wrong, none is a pronoun. The noun and subject of that sentence is these and what the these represents; therefore, the only correct use is are.
Jaden
I have a hard time getting HR to provide me with a candidate's actual resume. They just send up the system generated info from when the application was completed. I want to look at how they structured their resume, and ask them about parts of it on the interview. I had an early 20-something year old kid in HR then tell me that for Production positions, there really aren't any skilled applicants, so those people don't even have resumes, they're just minimum wage labor people that don't last. I told him I was a Production person, and did he think I was also unskilled and transient? I wish I could say he was embarrassed, but the whole thing went right over his head.
If a benevolent angel someday decided to filter out all the compulsive uses of "you know" as a blurted pause expression (or speech fart IMO), then all the pseudo-wisdom imparted on 24/7 cable news thrust/parry interviews, would be jointly-condensed daily to a total of 17 minutes instead of filling 24 hours.
And all present-day casual conversation in any Anglophonic region of our planet -- regions devoid of intelligent lifeforms -- would never exceed 7 minutes in length.
Arnaldo ~ Total expert on absolutely nothing except what gets me stressfully gritting my teeth and wearing out Mute buttons. Rational but grumpy old man.
And all present-day casual conversation in any Anglophonic region of our planet -- regions devoid of intelligent lifeforms -- would never exceed 7 minutes in length.
Arnaldo ~ Total expert on absolutely nothing except what gets me stressfully gritting my teeth and wearing out Mute buttons. Rational but grumpy old man.
Verbs support the subject of a sentence. In the following sentences, NONE is the subject (the object of the sentence that the verb supports), and THESE is a demonstrative pronoun representing a specific group of items or things.
"None of these are good." .... Means not ANY/ALL of these things or items ARE good.
"None of these is good." ...Means not ONE of these things or items IS good.
Here's a better example to show the proper relationship between verb and subject:
"ONE of these cues IS worth a lot of money."
ONE is the subject.
Or I could say, "None (not one) of these cues is worth a lot of money."
Or I could say, "None (not all) of these cues are worth a lot of money."
The subject is not THESE, and it's not CUES. It's NONE.
None is not a noun, therefore it can't be the subject of the sentence. The topic of the sentence is predicated on a previous sentence giving meaning to what the these represents and what these represents is the subject of the sentence.
Jaden
Btw, you proved my point in your example. Lol. If you were right, then none of these cues would be None of this cues in the case of the singular context...
Not always.
So far, I’m enjoying this thread. I’ve always enjoyed the colloquial language around a pool hall.
...it’s not illiterate, it can be a poetic way of expressing yourself...Nikos Kazantzakis sold a lot of books using Demotic Greek. One of the compliments I was fond of was when a player started to talk to me about action...his stake horse came over and said to him “Leave this guy alone...I saw him in action yesterday....he wasn’t playin’ pool, he was makin’ love.”
So I don’t mind the colorful statements I hear around action....but I don’t like the ignorance I hear....just having no clue about how a word should be used.
You people that think grammar is no big deal...how would you like to ascend a tall building or cross a high bridge if engineers were sloppy or stupid about how they expressed themselves?
pt...high school dropout....but doesn’t sneer at knowledge
...it’s not illiterate, it can be a poetic way of expressing yourself...Nikos Kazantzakis sold a lot of books using Demotic Greek. One of the compliments I was fond of was when a player started to talk to me about action...his stake horse came over and said to him “Leave this guy alone...I saw him in action yesterday....he wasn’t playin’ pool, he was makin’ love.”
So I don’t mind the colorful statements I hear around action....but I don’t like the ignorance I hear....just having no clue about how a word should be used.
You people that think grammar is no big deal...how would you like to ascend a tall building or cross a high bridge if engineers were sloppy or stupid about how they expressed themselves?
pt...high school dropout....but doesn’t sneer at knowledge
Hey, what happened to that teacher from West Virginia? How come he's not here? BTW, here hear I would think that's pretty simple.
Hair brained. Makes a weird kinda sense, almost better than the original hare brained.
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Of course pronouns can be subjects; just sayin’.
Edit for elaboration: As a pronoun, none can be the subject of a sentence.
Reading the thread backwards.
Actually, in modern grammar, context dictates singular or plural verbs following none as a subject. Previously, the verb following none was always singular. However, today:
None of these cues have had their wraps replaced. ( “Their wraps” indicates plural, so the plural present perfect have had is used.)
None of these cues has been used today. ( Here the context is ambiguous, so the singular present perfect has been is fine, and the plural would also be fine.)
EDIT for elaboration:
One of these cues is blue.
Not one of these cues is blue.
None of these cues is blue.
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