JAM said:Well, Vagabond, that was then and this is now, the year 2005. I could tell you about an incident which occurred several decades ago when certain prominent pool players promoted an event and left town with all the tournament monies, leaving their fellow players and peers dry and empty. And there was a tour not so long ago that never paid off its players, but the administration deemed it prudent to stuff their own pockets, again, leaving the players with no recourse. Even today, some pool organizations have their own set of rules which favor a select few, making it impossible for other pool players to be a part of the happenings.
Let me give you a little flavor of what the pool players think about dumping in competitive venues by relaying a story about a recent incident at the Skins Billiards Championship.
At the players' meeting before the event, Allen Hopkins and Billiards International explained the rules and invited questions and concerns. Larry Nevel raised his hand up and asked, "Is there any prevention mechanism to prevent players from saving and/or dumping?," or words to that effect.
Billiards International immediately came forth and stated that anybody caught doing such an atrocity would be banned from all future events. Then Mike Massey, who competed in the event, stood up and said, "And if I catch anybody saving or dumping, I'm going to write about it in every pool magazine, too." He was dead serious. Nobody at the Skins Billiards Championship wanted this magnificant event to be tarnished with that kind of image, to include the players. They were happy to be a part of this event, and it was EVERY MAN FOR HIMSELF.
Players are concerned about the image of pool (IMO), and believe it or not, I think folks are doing their damnedest to get rid of this image. To continue dragging pool in the gutter by mentioning dumps, double-crosses, and savers doesn't prove a damn thing. It only muddies the waters for those who are striving to present a good image and move forward to greener pastures.
I can state with 100-percent assurance that I personally would NEVER take part in any dump as it pertains to me and mine, no matter how much money is on the table. Maybe I am too optimistic, but I'd like to see the sport move to the next frontier and excel, and from what I have observed in the past few years, I think other players feel the same way.
When you mentioned in a previous post that it looked as if Keith intentionally missed the 2-9 combo with ball in hand, it looked to me like you were suggesting he did so deliberately, with malice aforethought, and NOTHING could be further from the truth. He's still having nightmares about that miss, what could have been if he went for the run out, but it's all water under the bridge now.
Vagabond, your glass seems to always be half empty, and mine seems to be half full.![]()
JAM
Howdy JAM,
I am only a messenger.I was responding to Jude`s wishfull thinking by telling him that it was done once.
If u really want to dwell on the comment I made on Keith`s attempt on the combo ,that is fine with me.But here is my final response on that matter:
n one post I mentioned that I said it in a figurative sense and I did not mean to say that he did that intentionally.I am not a fool to think that he intentionally did that.Keith is known to majority of the pool players in the USA.He will not be able to make others believe (by missing the shots)that he can`t play pool.Keith knows that every body knows him as a great player.The opportunity Keith or any other top Pro, to really hustle some one as a general rule is not there any more.Knowing all this,I will not say that keith intentionally did that.
Glass can`t be half full.This contradicts the meaning of the word full.
It is still not full and it is filled half.
I am getting late to my apointment in NewOrleans.talk to u later.
By the way what is your Zodiac sign? Cheers
Vagabond