Just expierimenting again. I used AGIS for a shaft bushing for a 5/16-18 internal thread. Any thoughts about how durable it should be?...JER
Phenolics work well, If weight is the issue, why not core it.lignum said:Interesting idea , I'm looking for an alternative material myself for joiners as the general brass style used on snooker cues these days weigh a little over 2oz . Makes it hard when someone wants an Ebony butt 3/4 joined cue and also wants it under 18oz . I heard Chris Hightower uses phenolic , right or wrong I'm gonna try a little canvas phenolic rod I have left over (the stuff from Atlas) for inserts !
Now for a light weight joint pin . I'm a little suss on Aluminium for this task , has anyone tried it ? I'm wondering if it might bend too easily . I see Atlas advertising G10 but it will probably be expensive .
Bazz
Michael Webb said:Phenolics work well, If weight is the issue, why not core it.
lignum said:I've tried some soft inserts before CueCrazy , white/opaque nylon I believe , I know what your saying about the feel of the hit with those , that's why the phenolic sounds appealing , maybe some cotton reinforced bakelite I've got , it's very similar to canvas phenolic !
cheers , Bazz.
lignum said:You could also glue the insert in to the shaft then drill/bore & tap it out to your preferred thread style afterwards.
BLACKHEARTCUES said:Just expierimenting again. I used AGIS for a shaft bushing for a 5/16-18 internal thread. Any thoughts about how durable it should be?...JER
Murray Tucker said:Should be very durable. The white will probably get dirty and be a cosmetic issue but the threads should last forever. LE phenolic would be perfect if you want to stay away from metal inserts. I have some made up if you would like me to send you a sample so you can see how I made them.
Those aren't Ivor-X. Those are Delrin.Delrin doesn't glue but he threads them and the shaft and the epoxy in between the Delrin and the wood is so strong, the shaft would split before that insert would spinn..kenl said:I have a Zylr cue that has ivor-x inserts in the shafts, they are flat-faced so might not be as vulnerable as piloted joints. Apparently he's trying kevlar now from what I heard. The joint locks up real tight and makes for a firm hit.
kenl said:I see, I didn't think it could be delrin as it doesn't glue well at all. There was one time I couldn't break the cue and after running around like a headless chicken decided to go to the loo and wash my hands and finally unscrewed the shaft with lots of elbow grease and grunting. I examined the end of the shaft and there didn't seem to be any movement of the insert.
But there was another time I unscrewed a 314 with a quick release and the brass insert came out of the shaft with the butt pin and it suddenly dawned on me where the irritating clicking sound that I've been putting up with for weeks have been coming from. And it seemed to me that its not a good idea to have the brass insert all shiny and smooth where it contacts the wood and the (wood?) glue that came out of the shaft end was rubbery. I wonder if that should be the case.
JoeyInCali said:Those aren't Ivor-X. Those are Delrin.Delrin doesn't glue but he threads them and the shaft and the epoxy in between the Delrin and the wood is so strong, the shaft would split before that insert would spinn..
He is now using a part Kevlar material which glues better and is virtually indestructible.