Air Bubbles in Cloth After a Mechanic Recovered

Johnnyt

Johnnyt

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I just had a Valley 7 foot table covered and rails done by a local mechanic. The table is outside in a screened room in Florida and the old cloth was a little worn but otherwise fine. I have a cover that I put on it when not playing on it and it hasn't rained here since he put the new cloth on.

The first morning I uncovered it to play there were two very small raised areas a few inches from the rail at one corner. I smoothed them out with my hand and they went away. This morning I uncovered it and found the same area had two-foot long one-inch raised bubbles in the cloth. I called the company that covered it and he said that that I should put a piece of wood down and hit it with a hammer. He also said it was from being outdoors. I believe that cloth wasn't stretched enough in that area before he glued it. When I put a little heat from a hair dryer on it it goes away. I just want to get my facts straight before I take further action. Thank you. Johnnyt
 
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He's being straight with you. It's the humidity and the cloth needs to be re-stretched. The bit with the board and hammer was because he thought you had a small chunk of crud under the cloth that could be crushed.
 
The cloth will pucker up like that because of humidity for sure, but if it is streched tight enuff it wont. I would give it a week or two before I re-streched it so it can adjust itself to being outside. If nothing is done it will just get worse. I have had that happen to me before on tables that I installed in garages where people play with the door open alot.
 
mechanic/player said:
The cloth will pucker up like that because of humidity for sure, but if it is streched tight enuff it wont. I would give it a week or two before I re-streched it so it can adjust itself to being outside. If nothing is done it will just get worse. I have had that happen to me before on tables that I installed in garages where people play with the door open alot.
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The mechanic sprayed something on the slate befeo he put the cloth on...I assumed it was glue, if so I can't stretch right? Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
The mechanic sprayed something on the slate befeo he put the cloth on...I assumed it was glue, if so I can't stretch right? Johnnyt
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If he used 3M77 or 90 you can pull the cloth up and restretch it.
Cloth shouldn't be glued to the top of the slate - only to the edge.
 
Dartman said:
If he used 3M77 or 90 you can pull the cloth up and restretch it.
Cloth shouldn't be glued to the top of the slate - only to the edge.
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Thank you Dartman., that's what I thought. I thought it was glue. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
Thank you Dartman., that's what I thought. I thought it was glue. Johnnyt
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Cloth on Valley Bar tables must be glued, because there is no backing to staple to. I also agree with what some one else said, I doubt the cloth was properly stretched in the first place or the glue was not given the proper time to get tacky before stretching.

Either way I would certainly have the people you paid come out and correct it.
 
If it was installed tight enough in the first place, I would not have developed the wrinkles in the cloth in the first place, as I've installed cloth indoors, outdoors, garages, and in Florida...my cloth don't come loose;)

Glen
 
realkingcobra said:
If it was installed tight enough in the first place, I would not have developed the wrinkles in the cloth in the first place, as I've installed cloth indoors, outdoors, garages, and in Florida...my cloth don't come loose;)

Glen
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I don't believe you...Come out here and prove it:rotflmao1:
 
PoolTable911 said:
I don't believe you...Come out here and prove it:rotflmao1:
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On the way to Rapid City, SD in the morning, a few more drop offs after that and I'm heading back east...LOL
 
realkingcobra said:
If it was installed tight enough in the first place, I would not have developed the wrinkles in the cloth in the first place, as I've installed cloth indoors, outdoors, garages, and in Florida...my cloth don't come loose;)

Glen
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Thank you Glen. That's what I thought too...that it wasn't stretched enough in that area. He refuses to comeback to look at it. But that's OK, it's not the money, it's the story he told me why it wasn't his problem like I was a ten year old. I can't think of anybody that screwed me that it didn't bite them in the A$$ soner than later. Thank you all for your help. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
Thank you Glen. That's what I thought too...that it wasn't stretched enough in that area. He refuses to comeback to look at it. But that's OK, it's not the money, it's the story he told me why it wasn't his problem like I was a ten year old. I can't think of anybody that screwed me that it didn't bite them in the A$$ soner than later. Thank you all for your help. Johnnyt
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Take an iron and iron the cloth, it'll cause it to shrink and tighten up a bit, it's wool & nylon so heat will cause it to shrink;)

Glen

PS. That'll also cause it to speed up some...LOL
 
realkingcobra said:
Take an iron and iron the cloth, it'll cause it to shrink and tighten up a bit, it's wool & nylon so heat will cause it to shrink;)

Glen

PS. That'll also cause it to speed up some...LOL
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I've been using a hair dryer. Couldn't find an iron anywhere in the house today while wife was at work. Come to think of it I've never saw an iron in her hand in 40 years. She was one of the original N.O.W group. Thanks again Glen. Johnnyt
 
Johnnyt said:
Thank you Dartman., that's what I thought. I thought it was glue. Johnnyt
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I might add that if he used 3M-76 it won't hold stretched cloth very well.
76, 77 and 90 all come in a black can so you'd need to check the number on the can.
If not using a roll-on glue then 3M-Super77 is the weapon of choice - get it at Home Depot for around $10 in the paint department.

If you're up to trying to fix this - pull the rails off, lift up the slate on both ends and slide a 2X4 underneath each end.
You'll need a helper for this.

Rework the pocket area(s) by undoing the cloth, reglue and restretch.
Spray glue is applied to the slate edge and the cloth (where it will hit the edge when stretched.
Allow 3-4 minutes for the glue to dry before applying. IOW - read the directions on the can.

Lay some newspapers or cardboard on the cloth to prevent overspray on the playing surface.
You may have to rework the pocket cuts slightly and if so then pull on the cloth and not the cut strips.
 
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Dartman said:
I might add that if he used 3M-76 it won't hold stretched cloth very well.
76, 77 and 90 all come in a black can so you'd need to check the number on the can.
If not using a roll-on glue then 3M-Super77 is the weapon of choice - get it at Home Depot for around $10 in the paint department.

If you're up to trying to fix this - pull the rails off, lift up the slate on both ends and slide a 2X4 underneath each end.
You'll need a helper for this.

Rework the pocket area(s) by undoing the cloth, reglue and restretch.
Spray glue is applied to the slate edge and the cloth (where it will hit the edge when stretched.
Allow 3-4 minutes for the glue to dry before applying. IOW - read the directions on the can.

Lay some newspapers or cardboard on the cloth to prevent overspray on the playing surface.
You may have to rework the pocket cuts slightly and if so then pull on the cloth and not the cut strips.
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And trim any remaining excess cloth from the areas that would contact your supports beams.
 
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