AL Pool Hall Owner Arrested, Fined! Outragous!!

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Alabama taxpayer money wasted by the pool police.:rolleyes:


Parents and patrons speak out and support pool hall owner

March 23, 2007 08:59 AM CDT

Residents in one valley community are speaking out in support of a teen club owner.

The owner of Pinky's in Henagar, which is in Dekalb County, was arrested and fined for allowing those under the age of 19 to play billiards.

She violated a state law many don't even know exists.

The pool tables in Pinky's will be gone today. When Lissa George, owner of Pinky's teen club in Henagar was arrested and fined, she was ordered to remove the tables.

George:"I think it's crazy. And nobody knew anything about the law."

Alabama Code pertaining to billiards rooms says it's illegal for anyone under 19 to play, or be in the room where billiards are being played, without the supervision of a parent or guardian.

A couple of Pinky's regulars say that's ridiculous.

18-year-old Eric Nix stated, "I don't see nothing wrong with shooting pool. I mean I shoot pool all the time. There's nothing wrong with it."

16-year-old Michael Ivey replies, "I come out here, hang out with my friends. That's about all we do, play pool and hang out."

They're both upset that Pinky's was seemingly singled out.

Nix: "I've been out here for 2 years and never seen any kind of trouble happening. I mean the cops come in all the time and never get on to anybody. Everything's always calm. Nothing ever happens down here, just fun."

Parents are upset, too. They say the club keeps kids off the streets and out of trouble. They feel it's a back-door attempt to shut the club down.

Lisa Ivey parent of 16-year-old Michael Ivey says, "I think the kids should be able to come here and shoot pool. I mean, they can go to Iraq at 18, but they can't shoot pool. You know, that ain't right. At least you know where your kids are."

The club was shut down last weekend because of the owner's arrest. It'll re-open tomorrow night, but without the pool tables.

http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=6269747&nav=0hBE
 
Maybe someone should point out that, technically they weren't playing billiards. They were playing pool.:rolleyes:
 
R U FUKKING KIDDING ME!!!!!!

That is about as stupid as Kentucky having a law saying you must take atleast 1 bath per year.
 
I had a couple of Billiard Rooms here in California, and had the same trouble with kids under
18 playing pool in Alameda California in the 1970's. I was never arrested the cops just chased the
kids out of my place under 18yrs of age. I would try to get the old law changed and gets some family support & petition started,etc. and until then put in ping pong tables for they will do very well. Start some weekly handicap tournaments and create a list of players & phone numbers and you can charge $5-$6 a hours, close to billiard play rates until you get the law changed.

When video machines got real big in the 70's the City of Alameda allowed minors to play the machines and then kids could come into my establishment and play the games for they were on a separate floor level from the billiard room.
 
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Pool tables threaten club

By Kati Burns
The Times-Journal

Published March 21, 2007

The owner of a Henagar teen dance club was served warrants for allowing teens under 19 to operate pool tables.

Pinky’s, a 19-and-under club just past the red light in Henagar, has been operational for a year. Owner Lissa George, of Ider, said she was shocked last Friday when she was served warrants by the Henagar Police Department for her pool tables.

“I had no idea there was a law against teenagers operating pool tables,” George said. “They didn’t even give me a warning first. They could have at least done that. They said I didn’t have signs up either to let teens know. I have no smoking and 19-and-under signs up, but I didn’t know about the pool tables.”

Not only was George served a warrant Friday for allowing underage teens to use her pool tables, which she allegedly bought in October 2006, but she was also served a warrant Monday for not having a business license for the pool tables, even though she has one for her building. George said she didn’t know she needed a license for that, either. A court hearing was set to take place Tuesday evening.

According to state code, it’s unlawful for any person to play billiards or to be permitted to remain in a billiard room for any purpose who has not reached the age of 19, unless accompanied by a parent or guardian.

“I’m going in there and pleading not guilty because I had no idea,” George said. “I’ve heard they want to close me down. There’s no reason why anyone should have a problem with this club. There’s lots of participation from teens here and I’ve received a lot of comments from parents who were glad I opened this place to give their children somewhere to go.”

However, Henagar Mayor Winston Jenkins said George knew about the pool table license from the moment she opened her club.

“She was told about the pool table license the day she bought her business license,” Jenkins said. “This lady came to me about a year ago and wanted to open a place where teens could go to get off the streets. I thought that was a good idea but then we started hearing tales about condoms being found in the parking lots and beer cans and things going on with drugs. So I asked Henagar Police Chief Randall Smith to inspect her business.”

Jenkins said Smith noticed upon inspection that George had pool tables inside her building and that underage teens were operating them. Jenkins also said George didn’t have the necessary postings for the tables. According to Jenkins, the city charges $87.50 for a business’ first pool table. After that, each additional pool table is $12.50 each. George currently has three tables.

George, however, said her club is in the vicinity of a small strip mall where a video store and pawnshop are located. George said the beer cans were found in a garbage Dumpster near her business and could have been put there at any time of the night by anyone.

“My business is in a public parking lot,” George said. “Condoms? Those were found in the parking lot and could have belonged to anyone not associated with the club.”

Jenkins said the club opening in that strip mall has brought lots of problems and he isn’t against closing the business down.

“I don’t make no bones about it,” Jenkins said. “She’s violating the city ordinance and we’re just trying to cover all of our bases. We have other people with businesses here who went by the law where pool tables are concerned.”

http://www.times-journal.com/report.lasso?WCD=6967
 
Someone posted here on AZ last week that some idiot in Georgia wanted to make Karaoke illegal !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! These people in Alabama were not playing illegal pool they were learning the legal game of Cueing Arts..
 
StormHotRod300 said:
R U FUKKING KIDDING ME!!!!!!

That is about as stupid as Kentucky having a law saying you must take atleast 1 bath per year.
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I agree !! should be at least once a week !! :eek:
 
wow

That's too bad. I suspect the law is in place for safety reasons,
although I'm a little surprised that the age is set at 19. Gee, I
only take showers, not baths, so I'll have to stay away from Kentucky.
 
looks like the kids under 18 will have to find something else to do. alcohol, drugs that's probably what they'll get into. pool's harmless people should lighten up
 
shark3149 said:
That just goes to show you there are some messed up laws that need to be changed bad.
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And some messed up city officials -- that need to be changed bad!
 
Maybe I can help the Lady:

If Pinky's has pay by the hour pool tables, she might be in trouble.

If Pinky's has coin operated bar tables, she may have a way out.

In most States, bar tables are vending machines, not pool tables. Vending machines do not fall under Billiard requirements.

Nevertheless, she should police her parking lot.....SPF=randyg
 
StormHotRod300 said:
R U FUKKING KIDDING ME!!!!!!

That is about as stupid as Kentucky having a law saying you must take atleast 1 bath per year.
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I ain't breaking the law. I take a bath every saturday, whether I need it or not!
 
In the past I mentioned about puritans and puritonic laws and most of these ridiculous laws are from puritonic days.

In England they created a task force to look into all the archaic laws and remove them from the books.

In America no one has ever given a thought to the such thing as Brits did.I do not have any hope that such things could ever happen in this coiuntry in this country because of the states rights and each state having it`s own vicious,vindictive,feindish politicians who want to take advantage of these laws in getting their innocent opponents punished.
Having lost the hope, I concluded that it is easier to take a shower evey sunday than fight the city hall in Kentucky, sit down while drinking budweiser in washington DC, not to have sex with the girl firend more than three times in 2 weeks in Mississippi unless I decide to marry her.
 
Ye knows dat der in Gawjhu it is eeleegal to take a sit down baith in yer on fron ywad... Shooot once I figurard dat un out .. I pickeded up alls my stuffes and moved on overr herr to good ol Germny!!!

Serioulsy.. this is jacked up... we should keep an eye on this one.. maybe there is someting we could do to help the perosn out .... Does anybody know how to contact the owners ... at the very least maybe we could start a letter writting campain.. massive emails.. or help to off set the legal cost...

what do ya think ?
 
Lisa Ivey parent of 16-year-old Michael Ivey says, "I think the kids should be able to come here and shoot pool. I mean, they can go to Iraq at 18, but they can't shoot pool. You know, that ain't right. At least you know where your kids are."

Lisa knows how to play the press. The same thing was said when they raised the drinking age to 21. Back then it was "I can fight and die for my country, but can't have a beer" I know I was 19 when the federally mandated drinking age was raised, and i was in the military....We could still drink 3.2 beer at the Helms Club on the base. it takes a lot of 3.2 beer to get a buzz...

Ironically the parking lot drug dealer is the one who benefits from the indoor smoking bans too. The patrons are forced outside to smoke, and the drug dealer has less risk of getting caught out in the parking lot than he does under the watchful eye of the bartender or bouncer. Sometimes well intentioned laws have undesirable consequences.
The best thing she can do now is to put survellance cameras outside covering the lot surrounding her business and post signs that the area is being watched. This will help drive the drug dealers and the back seat acrobats to a different part of the lot, and they won't be her problem.
On a side note, I didn't realise condoms were illegals in AL...:rolleyes:

Banger McCue
 
the More I thought about it after my last post ..the more this made sense ...With all of the good we have done here recently and in the past, I am sure we can extend a hand to this lady....

Do we have any one local to this area ?

if no,t I will take the lead and attempt to track Lissa down to see what she needs...if I get some support from the rest of you
 
That's what you get when you let the govt run businesses.

For all of you that just love the non-smoking, control freak laws (you know who you are), this is just another way of doing the exact same thing: Idiots in 3 piece suits deciding what YOU "want" to do.

Freedom is freedom. Support the non-smoking laws, for just one tiny example, and that same power will be used against you later on. It's ineveitable. This is why property rights are sooooooo fuggin' important! Geez!

Tyranny kills.

Jeff Livingston
 
TX Poolnut said:
Pool tables threaten club

By Kati Burns
The Times-Journal

Published March 21, 2007

“She was told about the pool table license the day she bought her business license,” Jenkins said. “This lady came to me about a year ago and wanted to open a place where teens could go to get off the streets. I thought that was a good idea but then we started hearing tales about condoms being found in the parking lots and beer cans and things going on with drugs. So I asked Henagar Police Chief Randall Smith to inspect her business.

http://www.times-journal.com/report.lasso?WCD=6967
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I was a teenager in the early to mid 70s. Drank beer and had sex every chance I got. Smoked some green leafy substance from time to time too.

Always thought it was a right of passage, just something a lot of young people do.

Did'nt know it was because I liked to play pool.

Learn something new every day.

Justin Nuder
 
In the Jim Crow era of Alabama laws, it was stated that "It shall be unlawful for a negro and white person to play together or in company with each other at any game of pool or billiards."

I'm trying to find more info about the business at the heart of this story. I'll post what I can dig up.
 
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