Off cueauctions??...
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Alert!, Another Ebay scam...
- Thread starter Salamander
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Salamander said:
E-Bay cancelled the auction already. I only notified them an hour ago.
It appears to be a case of identity theft of the seller.
The photos were not the same exact ones as cue auctions. The cue must have been listed previously on e-Bay with those photos - because it was the same cue, case, and table.
When is e-Bay going to make it impossible to copy the photos we publish? How senseless is it to allow these scam artists to copy our entire ads? I am going to write them a couple of letters on the subject - this is ridiculous!
Chris
Much of the photo theft can be prevented by the sellers. Put your user ID in text across the photos, so that other's can't steal them. Also, the seller's should make all their high dollar auctions private. That way, scammers can't email everyone on the bidder's list for a possible fish.
I agree that ebay needs to step up security greatly. Although, I believe a lot can be currently done by the SELLERS to ensure they make it difficult for the scammers.
I agree that ebay needs to step up security greatly. Although, I believe a lot can be currently done by the SELLERS to ensure they make it difficult for the scammers.
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Being a web programmer, I can assure you that there is nothing that ebay can do to prevent me from copying an ad if I decide that is what I want to do. They can, however make it more difficult, and that could easily cut down on theft, considering most criminals aren't exactly brilliant.
Scott
Scott
Scott Behrens said:
It's really irritating. I sold a guy a "one of a kind" art cue for several thousand dollars. A few weeks later, some joker used my photos to try to sell the cue in a fraudulent auction. The guy who bought my cue hit the ceiling, thinking there was more than one, and called the cue maker in a panic to find out if I were telling the truth.
Chris
Private Auctions by Scammers
NOTE: In their auctions they usually offer free shipping, AND NO PAYMENT METHODS. ( I myself was looking a a 400lb cnc machine ( yeah ship that for free)that i saw weeks before, which I exposed to Ebay . They were also suspended for fraud, 0 feedback .. I know because i won, but refused to send money thru western union or this NOPAYPAL.COM SITE.
A day later Ebay told me, they were fraud and not to correspond. or send money. i knew it all along i played to ruin the auction and shield others away. i had apretty good feeling.
Harleys are sold here everyday with people actually being dumb enough to send the money to western...Free shipp on those too.
It just goes to show..
Good guys and bad guys are in the mix , although there are more bad guys than good guys.
Shotmaker
Scammers are now opening new fraud accounts with posiibly stolen credit cards or what have you.( Ebay only uses the credit card number to track their members in the datatbase). Then the Scammers list something with a picture from weeks gone by. They list the auction as private, so no on can warn anyone that this Ebayer is fraud.iusedtoberich said:
NOTE: In their auctions they usually offer free shipping, AND NO PAYMENT METHODS. ( I myself was looking a a 400lb cnc machine ( yeah ship that for free)that i saw weeks before, which I exposed to Ebay . They were also suspended for fraud, 0 feedback .. I know because i won, but refused to send money thru western union or this NOPAYPAL.COM SITE.
A day later Ebay told me, they were fraud and not to correspond. or send money. i knew it all along i played to ruin the auction and shield others away. i had apretty good feeling.
Harleys are sold here everyday with people actually being dumb enough to send the money to western...Free shipp on those too.
It just goes to show..
Good guys and bad guys are in the mix , although there are more bad guys than good guys.
Shotmaker
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iusedtoberich said:
good idea, BUT I have dealt with scammers that make their auctions private ! .....then there's the scam that you have to email them outside eBay to be put on their 'bidder's list',,,,,
the most recent one is when you sign into eBay,,,the page doesn't look just right,,,colors are off, etc.,,,I caught the ip address of one of these,,,seems they have hacked into eBay and are getting your i.d. and password without most ever being suspicious,,,you just sign in like always and don't go anywhere,,,the next screen is the right one, but OOPS, you just gave them your i.d. and password and now they're gone (until you least expect it !!)
,,,,,,,,,jflan
TheBook said:
E-Bay can be quite slow to respond to an obvious fraud.
It hurts everyone in the E-Bay community when someone gets ripped off. Those people may quit E-Bay in disgust. So sometimes seasoned e-Bayers will spot a fraudulent auction and bid high with one of their screen names (never their main name, too much security risk). That way nobody can win the cue and get burned.
Hence, e-Bay vigilante or posse.
Chris
Hackers Get that info
They make the page look like it came from ebay , logo and all , even the square trade logo. there's a link on the page that states for you to respond, opens up a page for you to enter your user id and password., as if you were logging on to Ebay.
This information does not go to ebay it goes to some hackers area on a server somewhere, so they can steal your account and sell items they don't have. One day you'll be blocked from your account because they have chnged the email address and the password. On top of that Ebay will send you a bill for the listing fees to your credit card. i was charged for the sale of a Harley. They got caught, but ebay shut the account down ., an di ahd to file a rebuttal to the credit card company for the money ebay took from me.
Gotta Be careful!
Shotmaker
Hackers get that info when they send you that phony email that tells you to confirm a second chance deal.Jack Flanagan said:
They make the page look like it came from ebay , logo and all , even the square trade logo. there's a link on the page that states for you to respond, opens up a page for you to enter your user id and password., as if you were logging on to Ebay.
This information does not go to ebay it goes to some hackers area on a server somewhere, so they can steal your account and sell items they don't have. One day you'll be blocked from your account because they have chnged the email address and the password. On top of that Ebay will send you a bill for the listing fees to your credit card. i was charged for the sale of a Harley. They got caught, but ebay shut the account down ., an di ahd to file a rebuttal to the credit card company for the money ebay took from me.
Gotta Be careful!
Shotmaker
proficient
Registered
CueAuction is sorry for both the buyers and sellers that pictures are taken from its site to run scams on the internet. The auctions in question are both very real and can be found at http://www.cueauctions.com While CueAuctions can do little about picture and description theft we do require that all listings be prepaid, this leaves little room for the scam unless the scammer has the correct bank information for the user. Auction sites that let users post and pay on a billing cycle will have little control over someone listing a fake auction. The billing cycle is simply longer than the auction.
Some suggestions when buying:
As with anything you pay for that you do not have in your hands at the time of payment there is always an element of risk. Here are a few suggestions:
If you are paying by PayPal make sure you select to use your credit card on file with them to pay with. Some credit card companies offer fraud prevention and will credit your account within a 30 day period of the time of charge. You will have to check with your credit card company to see if you are protected.
If you are paying directly with a credit card make sure it has fraud protection.
If you are paying by check or money order send it via United States Postal Service. You could send it registered if you want or delivery confirmation to prove that it was delivered. Important to remember here is if the seller doesn't send the merchandise they have committed Mail Fraud because they received the payment via USPS. This doesn't guarantee that you will get any money back, but it can create problems for the seller. Mail Fraud is a Federal Violation. NOTE Bank security alerted us to the fact that USPS Money Orders even though they can be cashed at the counter can come back bad (up to 10 weeks after cashing) and the post office will come for their money. Money orders have to be deposited just like a check and have to clear. Electronic check cashing from personal bank accounts will surely be the payment method of the future.
Deal with a 3rd party. Proficient Billiards offers an escrow service to assist buyers and sellers. There are other companies out there also that escrow if you look on the internet you are sure to find one.
Shipping insurance is always a good thing to have on your packages. Uninsured packages that become lost or damaged in shipping unfortunately usually become the loss of the buyer. REMEMBER TO INSURE!
Something simple If you don't think the seller is in possession of the goods... ask them to lay something next to it (like a nickle) and have them send you that picture.
Some suggestions when buying:
As with anything you pay for that you do not have in your hands at the time of payment there is always an element of risk. Here are a few suggestions:
If you are paying by PayPal make sure you select to use your credit card on file with them to pay with. Some credit card companies offer fraud prevention and will credit your account within a 30 day period of the time of charge. You will have to check with your credit card company to see if you are protected.
If you are paying directly with a credit card make sure it has fraud protection.
If you are paying by check or money order send it via United States Postal Service. You could send it registered if you want or delivery confirmation to prove that it was delivered. Important to remember here is if the seller doesn't send the merchandise they have committed Mail Fraud because they received the payment via USPS. This doesn't guarantee that you will get any money back, but it can create problems for the seller. Mail Fraud is a Federal Violation. NOTE Bank security alerted us to the fact that USPS Money Orders even though they can be cashed at the counter can come back bad (up to 10 weeks after cashing) and the post office will come for their money. Money orders have to be deposited just like a check and have to clear. Electronic check cashing from personal bank accounts will surely be the payment method of the future.
Deal with a 3rd party. Proficient Billiards offers an escrow service to assist buyers and sellers. There are other companies out there also that escrow if you look on the internet you are sure to find one.
Shipping insurance is always a good thing to have on your packages. Uninsured packages that become lost or damaged in shipping unfortunately usually become the loss of the buyer. REMEMBER TO INSURE!
Something simple If you don't think the seller is in possession of the goods... ask them to lay something next to it (like a nickle) and have them send you that picture.
We all have to keep in mind that Ebay could have millions of auctions going on at the same time on more than 12 international sites. If just half a percent of them turn out to the frauds, that's still a significant number of cases that will take time to investigate and sort out. Let's give'em a small break eh. Ebay probalby doesn't have an in-house cue expert to review all the high-dollar cue auctions.