Alex P Moneymatch last week - Top Money Player in PI
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I think it would be funny to watch Steve Davis play in those conditions. He just seems like such an upright and proper chap that it would be a great contrast. He'd probably still were long pants, socks and leather shoes :grin:
Earl would be great!
Hey Joey you can definitely tell how the cloth plays when they break how the balls move and rest..
while I really like alex, I love watching baneres play. He is some fearless.
Daily pay for a waitress is around 100 pesos per day, which places the pot in perspective. I was in PI (AC, Subic & Iba) in June and many quality players playing. But that's only my first world perspective.
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Guys this is Part 1 where in the camera guy shoots the street where the pool hall is located! A MUST SEE!!! Damn Alex is a true warrior! If I strolled in there I would stick out like a sore thumb! I'd do it once I see Jay Helfert in the background! What a place! So this is what the World Killers from PH play in...
Efren now I know what you came out of. I had no Idea! My utmost respect to the Filipinos! Wow we are spoiled. I'm not much of a complainer but boy I really won't judge any pool hall we got around here ever!
http://youtu.be/Fm9sgONyusc
This is real pool Filipino style, which I love! I've been in hundred places like this, with maybe two or three tables. No walls, open usually on three sides, with a restroom and counter on the other side. It has to be 80 degrees in there, even at night. Always warm and muggy all night long.
Between games what is happening is they are making bets on the next game and paying off for the previous one. I don't know if the camera guy shows any of that. But they are definitely betting by the game as well. Anyone can make a side bet, and you do it with hand signals and a couple of shouts.
It's not called a pool match over there. It's a pool fight! It's not a problem for a white guy to go into a spot like that. You can even gamble if you like. Just make sure you pay off if you lose. Welching on a bet can have very serious consequences over there. Most of the time when I go in a place like that someone asks me to play, which I also like. Mostly I play Rotation over there. It's such a great game.
I love the Filipino poolrooms, both big and small. Kind of reminds me of the old days when pool was booming here. They NEVER play for fun over there. You want to play, then make a bet, even if it's only 100P. :smile:
Thanks for the Intel Jay... Amazing! Truly amazing! Also noticed right next to the entrance of the pool hall is a low grade deli looking place that sells what looks like pastries or egg rolls of some kind - I love it!
You're the Man of Men Jay! I have to see this for myself. If you love it there, I know I will as well.
I'm headed back that way in five days. Start out in Manila with my daughter and then head south to Cebu and Davao. I may go to Gensan for the Manny Paquiao tournament if I have time as well.
I don't do anything different than I did 40 years ago in this country. I go wherever pool is played and walk right in. Doesn't take me long to get right in the middle of it. Everyone wants to play and beat an American! If I'm in stroke I can hold my own pretty good at Rotation and not too many can beat me if I convince them to play all Banks!
FYI, I don't play any big games, mostly betting 100p to 500p a game ($2.50-12.00). That is a typical game in most poolrooms over there, and they take it seriously. I've played as high as 1,000p a game and sets for 5,000p (about $120), but that was in one of the mainstream poolrooms.
I keep a nice Bautista cue in my daughters house in Manila, but I may not even carry it around this trip. I haven't been playing any pool for months now. I always carry a little tip tool and some scotchbrite with me just in case.
Okay my most memorable game over there. It was maybe five years ago and there was a little poolroom right in the middle of an old shopping mall. It had only four tables, but they weren't in bad shape. I wandered in there one day and found myself in a game with the owner of the room. He was an older guy like me and we were betting 1,000p a game. I was playing pretty good back then, but Rotation was still new for me, and I had to get the feel of the game. The first day he beat me for a few thousand. I went back to my hotel and thought about it. I began to realize all the points are from the ten to the fifteen. Making little balls doesn't do you that much good. If you can position yourself to run out at the end, you can win.
With that strategy in mind I went back the next day and was greeted warmly all around, especially by the owner. He quickly got me the same cue I had used the day before and waved me to the table. This time I more than held my own and we played for several hours. There was a large crowd ringing the entire poolroom and we were the only table going. It was like being down in the pit gambling, and that's an environment I love. The crowd was great too, many of them betting game by game, a lot of them wanting to bet on me! They would cheer on every good shot and clap you on the back if you made a good run out. I had as many fans/supporters as he did, and the game was competitive but also great fun to be part of. We played clean and friendly, complimenting each other for good shots. He was a very good player, a little smarter at this game than I was. But I had superior firepower, coming with some long banks and good shot making that won games when I was way down on the score. I had to run out the last four or five balls to win more than once!
In the end I prevailed, winning back what I had lost the day before plus extra. That was it, the last time I played there. When I went back a year later the little poolroom was gone. Just a good memory now.
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I'm headed back that way in five days. Start out in Manila with my daughter and then head south to Cebu and Davao. I may go to Gensan for the Manny Paquiao tournament if I have time as well.
I don't do anything different than I did 40 years ago in this country. I go wherever pool is played and walk right in. Doesn't take me long to get right in the middle of it. Everyone wants to play and beat an American! If I'm in stroke I can hold my own pretty good at Rotation and not too many can beat me if I convince them to play all Banks!
FYI, I don't play any big games, mostly betting 100p to 500p a game ($2.50-12.00). That is a typical game in most poolrooms over there, and they take it seriously. I've played as high as 1,000p a game and sets for 5,000p (about $120), but that was in one of the mainstream poolrooms.
I keep a nice Bautista cue in my daughters house in Manila, but I may not even carry it around this trip. I haven't been playing any pool for months now. I always carry a little tip tool and some scotchbrite with me just in case.
Okay my most memorable game over there. It was maybe five years ago and there was a little poolroom right in the middle of an old shopping mall. It had only four tables, but they weren't in bad shape. I wandered in there one day and found myself in a game with the owner of the room. He was an older guy like me and we were betting 1,000p a game. I was playing pretty good back then, but Rotation was still new for me, and I had to get the feel of the game. The first day he beat me for a few thousand. I went back to my hotel and thought about it. I began to realize all the points are from the ten to the fifteen. Making little balls doesn't do you that much good. If you can position yourself to run out at the end, you can win.
With that strategy in mind I went back the next day and was greeted warmly all around, especially by the owner. He quickly got me the same cue I had used the day before and waved me to the table. This time I more than held my own and we played for several hours. There was a large crowd ringing the entire poolroom and we were the only table going. It was like being down in the pit gambling, and that's an environment I love. The crowd was great too, many of the them betting game by game, a lot of them wanting to bet on me! They would cheer on every good shot and clap you on the back if you made a good run out. I had as many fans/supporters as he did, and the game was competitive but also great fun to be part of. We played clean and friendly, complimenting each other for good shots. He was a very good player, a little smarter at this game than I was. But I had superior firepower, coming with some long banks and good shot making that won games when I was way down on the score. I had to run out the last four or five balls to win more than once!
In the end I prevailed, winning back what I had lost the day before plus extra. That was it, the last time I played there. When I went back a year later the little poolroom was gone. Just a good memory now.
Thanks for the stories Jay! Great Job Sir! They wanna play n beat an American call it boys heads or tails? $2.50-$12.00? I'm their Action Jackson all day or night everyday! Jay I commend you for your journeys! You've lived the life beyond Pool Wars! If you're ever in Vegas call me let's get some good food and plan my trip to PH!
Question: can I bring my American Pool cue over there and not have it warp? Francisco and Efren brings theirs back n forth from there to here...
it's summer there in Vegas now - the hottest part of the year. here in Manila, it's the rainy season. i suggest you leave it there. if you ever visit Manila, send me PM. i'll give you a playing cue.
the original videos are here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5gbqlILU9I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35vqcJ2ohEM
the original uploader of the videos is my friend, Rolly. He kinda promotes Jeff De Luna and Jeffrey Ignacio (China Open finalist this year, beat Mika and Biado, lost to Chang Yu-Lung). I think he's now starting to promote Jericho Banares.
i'd also like to share some of his other videos:
Jeffrey Ignacio vs Jomar Ocampo
part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG838-1GSJM
part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7j4LViB9hU
Jeffrey Ignacio vs. Ronnie Alcano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt_3o3TLKME
Jeffrey De Luna vs. Carlo Biado
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fhYOuU_Ieo
Jerico Banares vs Johann Chua
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk60VQaHWSk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5gbqlILU9I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35vqcJ2ohEM
the original uploader of the videos is my friend, Rolly. He kinda promotes Jeff De Luna and Jeffrey Ignacio (China Open finalist this year, beat Mika and Biado, lost to Chang Yu-Lung). I think he's now starting to promote Jericho Banares.
i'd also like to share some of his other videos:
Jeffrey Ignacio vs Jomar Ocampo
part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XG838-1GSJM
part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7j4LViB9hU
Jeffrey Ignacio vs. Ronnie Alcano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wt_3o3TLKME
Jeffrey De Luna vs. Carlo Biado
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fhYOuU_Ieo
Jerico Banares vs Johann Chua
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lk60VQaHWSk
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great match Lion Vs Jerrico recommend watching
Thanks for sharing was that a 10 foot table they were on?
The safety play was awesome!
Wow these guys can bring it!
I will be watching and picking up some pointers but the speed control and angle play was incredible please tell them respect!
Thanks for sharing was that a 10 foot table they were on?
The safety play was awesome!
Wow these guys can bring it!
I will be watching and picking up some pointers but the speed control and angle play was incredible please tell them respect!
^in my years of playing, i havent seen a 10-foot table here in the Philippines. it's always 9-foot tables. the table probably looks larger on video because a wide-angle camera was used. also, we are relatively "smaller" in built that's why a regular table would look like a 10-footer when we play on it. :grin-square:
This is why:
It doesn't matter what's going on around them-
they have laser like focus.
Alex is an amazing person both on and away from the table, but the same can be said of most any of the Philippine players-Alex even picked me up from the airport. :thumbup:
You see the conditions-it's as far from perfect playing conditions as you can get.
There is no replicating 100 degree heat coupled with 100% humidity.
I've filmed Alex, Efren, Francisco, Carlo and the worlds greatest during
Matchroom Sports, "World Cup of Pool" and the 2 Predator events that followed for "Raising the Hustler"
The Philippines is an amazing country full of stark contrasts- but the people...
as a people, I've never heard and seen so many people walk around with a song on their lips, even when their pockets were bare- they had optimism, and determination forged by sadness and struggle, which you can't always hear in their songs, but can be seen in their eyes.
-CP
www.facebook.com/raisingthehustler
@raisingthehustl
#raisingthehustler
#poolordie
It doesn't matter what's going on around them-
they have laser like focus.
Alex is an amazing person both on and away from the table, but the same can be said of most any of the Philippine players-Alex even picked me up from the airport. :thumbup:
You see the conditions-it's as far from perfect playing conditions as you can get.
There is no replicating 100 degree heat coupled with 100% humidity.
I've filmed Alex, Efren, Francisco, Carlo and the worlds greatest during
Matchroom Sports, "World Cup of Pool" and the 2 Predator events that followed for "Raising the Hustler"
The Philippines is an amazing country full of stark contrasts- but the people...
as a people, I've never heard and seen so many people walk around with a song on their lips, even when their pockets were bare- they had optimism, and determination forged by sadness and struggle, which you can't always hear in their songs, but can be seen in their eyes.
-CP
www.facebook.com/raisingthehustler
@raisingthehustl
#raisingthehustler
#poolordie
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Great match. The last dozen or so racks are absorbing; lots of safety/tactical shots.
Amazing videos, thanks for posting.
Question: Who is considered the #1 player now in the Philippines?