Alex Pagulayan going to UK to try pro snooker

Nick B said:
It shows your ignorance of the game if you think 40 is a small spot. In Canada clubbing baby seals in written into our Constitution. Besides I would pee myself if you came out looking like a Chinese Pimp (aka Lou's match). I would have to forfeit or play wet. Maybe you can make me a JB Cases-Super Rugged Diaper? I drink a lot of coffee so make it think.

Nick
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Another troll post. Can't stop can you? Conversation was doing great until you showed up.
 
one stroke said:
The real fact is they wanted so badly for him to make it so they could say , see snooker know it alls it's not so tough ,,
Well here's a news flash it is tough and he never even played anyone remotely good and their still saying with practice he will be competing with the best of them
Instead of saying , man that game must be hard if a world class player like Alex could not qualify after putting that on his top to do list , they say oh if he hits it hard for 6 months he will be a. Top level player

Dream on


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For reasons too numerous to mention, this is quite possibly the most embarrassing thread in AZB's history, and that's saying something. I can almost smell the desperation from here.

But what's most striking is how few know anything about the game. That's right folks; the pinnacle of cue sports, and its only professional arm, and no one even knows the rules, let alone what's needed to play it at a high level. Unbelievable.

No wonder pool is where it is if AmateurZBilliards is anything to go by.
 
JB Cases said:
My game is not one pocket as evidenced by how badly I stunk it up gifting Lou the set.

I don't have a game. I play all games equally bad.

But I will take the 40 points and see how I do.

I do agree though...Nick seems like a nit, seeing as how he was a great snooker player with hundreds of centuries in his life. Making a 40 point spot to me should be like clubbing baby seals.

Guess that's the difference between heart and larceny.
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Utter drivel.
 
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TheThaiger said:
For reasons too numerous to mention, this is quite possibly the most embarrassing thread in AZB's history, and that's saying something. I can almost smell the desperation from here.

But what's most striking is how few know anything about the game. That's right folks; the pinnacle of cue sports, and its only professional arm, and no one even knows the rules, let alone what's needed to play it at a high level. Unbelievable.

No wonder pool is where it is if AmateurZBilliards is anything to go by.
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Why should pool players in America know the rules to professional snooker? It's a fringe game here. So is rugby and even soccer, most Americans don't know the rules to professional soccer as well or that it's called football everywhere else in the world.

There is no desperation, it's just clear that if Alex or Corey manages to make a decent splash in snooker then it proves that it's possible.

Alex already proved he can can with the best amateurs. Third overall in frames won in Q-school out of 175 players, many of them already seasoned on the pro tour for several years.

Maybe what reeks is your own desperation wishing Alex fails so that you can be "right" in your assessment that no pool player could ever make it as a snooker professional. That's what it seems like to me when I read your posts.
 
JB Cases said:
Maybe what reeks is your own desperation wishing Alex fails so that you can be "right" in your assessment that no pool player could ever make it as a snooker professional. That's what it seems like to me when I read your posts.
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:)

Well Alex has proved a lot of people wrong already, and has pleasantly surprised and thus impressed those who thought he had some kind of shot. Liam Highfield, who beat him in the final round to qualify for the tour said that he played some shots that snooker players don't see (but also misses some shots that they do see). About a week before their match up, Highfield said that Alex is the cleverest safety player he has seen. So, while Alex is giving snooker his best shot and being pretty successful so far, snooker players are getting a new take on their game from a world class cuesmith coming over from pool.

Maguire will be a real test - but this test plus the test he put himself through against the best amateurs and "borderline" pros will together let him know just where he is and what he has to do.

It's great for snooker and it's great for pool. Threads bouncing continuously to the top both on here and on snooker forums. Go Alex!
 
Alex vs Maguire Stream

Alex is on the live stream Monday at 9:30 a.m. EDT
That is 2:30 p.m. in the UK
and 3:30 p.m. local time on
http://www.snooker.org/res/index.asp?template=24

Matches on two tables are available
Available on the pay site
http://www.worldsnooker.livesport.tv/

and probably on

http://www.sportcategory.com/c-11.html
http://www.stopstream.tv/11-.html
http://www.hahasport.com/c-11.html

Matches are the best of 9, so American pool players will be introduced to a note of refinement of the gentlemen's game:
a 15 minute tea break after four frames are completed.:grin:
 
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Swighey said:
:)

Well Alex has proved a lot of people wrong already, and has pleasantly surprised and thus impressed those who thought he had some kind of shot. Liam Highfield, who beat him in the final round to qualify for the tour said that he played some shots that snooker players don't see (but also misses some shots that they do see). About a week before their match up, Highfield said that Alex is the cleverest safety player he has seen. So, while Alex is giving snooker his best shot and being pretty successful so far, snooker players are getting a new take on their game from a world class cuesmith coming over from pool.

Maguire will be a real test - but this test plus the test he put himself through against the best amateurs and "borderline" pros will together let him know just where he is and what he has to do.

It's great for snooker and it's great for pool. Threads bouncing continuously to the top both on here and on snooker forums. Go Alex!
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I fully agree and it looks like Alex's one pocket knowledge is coming in handy. People really don't know how deep that game really is and Alex is one of the world's best at it. I actually think one pocket is closer to snooker than any other pool game because of how tightly controlled the cue ball has to be to play it at the highest level. I learned this the hard way recently :-)

Now when Alex gets some quality coaching and learns the snooker moves properly.....well it will be fun to watch for sure. I am sure Barry Hearn is hoping he does well as well because of the crossover marketing opportunities that may be there.

Could you post some links to the snooker forums so we can see it more from your perspective please?
 
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JB Cases said:
I fully agree and it looks like Alex's one pocket knowledge is coming in handy. People really don't know how deep that game really is and Alex is one of the world's best at it. I actually think one pocket is closer to snooker than any other pool game because of how tightly controlled the cue ball has to be to play it at the highest level. I learned this the hard way recently :-)

Now when Alex gets some quality coaching and learns the snooker moves properly.....well it will be fun to watch for sure. I am sure Barry Hearn is hoping he does well as well because of the crossover marketing opportunities that may be there.

Could you post some links to the snooker forums so we can see it more from your perspective please?
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IMHO I think straight pool is closer to snooker ,, I'm sure if Alex played everyday and got proper instruction he could compete with the middle of the road pro's ,, the players he's beating or losing to now are short stop caliber ,, the mistakes against them are not nearly as costly ,,
Ya I'm sure Barry see's it as a opportunity Alex is certainly a entertainer as well as a top world player ,, snooker does not have anyone like Alex

For that matter neither does anyone else


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Basically snooker numbers remind me of my 14.1 years of play, and Varner in the finals at IU 69. If you were an 80 ball runner, almost Never would a player who could only run 50 ever beat you, just didn't happen. Centuries is a powerful expression for Snooker, pecking order becomes obvious. When Buddy Hall was in his prime, it was Always Packages of 2's 3's or 4's all the time, with safeties.
 
Alex plays quite fearless when it comes to snooker, and that's the best way to approach the game. I've seen him take on some shots that are low percentage and make them. If he were to miss he would have an uphill battle against the guys he's playing, against higher level players its almost always loss of frame. But you can't refuse a shot and chance to clinch the frame because if you miss there's a chance you may lose. Snooker is about aggressive break building with safety thrown in there from time to time. I wish he would be more aggressive in his safety play too. I've seen him a few times try to snooker a player from behind baulk on all reds....smash the green or yellow into the pack and concentrate on getting the white on the baulk cushion, it makes it much harder for the other guy to play safe with reds scattered everywhere.

Alex is a very good 14.1 player and I'm sure that will help. Its the game that most resembles snooker in my opinion. Snooker players generally take well to 14.1, more so than any other pool game. I remember watching Steve Davis try it out and he made a run of 78 on his first ever attempt.
 
Pidge said:
Alex plays quite fearless when it comes to snooker, and that's the best way to approach the game. I've seen him take on some shots that are low percentage and make them. If he were to miss he would have an uphill battle against the guys he's playing, against higher level players its almost always loss of frame. But you can't refuse a shot and chance to clinch the frame because if you miss there's a chance you may lose. Snooker is about aggressive break building with safety thrown in there from time to time. I wish he would be more aggressive in his safety play too. I've seen him a few times try to snooker a player from behind baulk on all reds....smash the green or yellow into the pack and concentrate on getting the white on the baulk cushion, it makes it much harder for the other guy to play safe with reds scattered everywhere.

Alex is a very good 14.1 player and I'm sure that will help. Its the game that most resembles snooker in my opinion. Snooker players generally take well to 14.1, more so than any other pool game. I remember watching Steve Davis try it out and he made a run of 78 on his first ever attempt.
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Stuart Pettman journey man ex snooker pro, first time playing 14 -1

start at 1:3050

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvQSmvfbHWg

world record on 10 ft table
 
DGilb147 said:
Stuart Pettman journey man ex snooker pro, first time playing 14 -1

start at 1:3050

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvQSmvfbHWg

world record on 10 ft table
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A couple of things..

He starts around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvQSmvfbHWg;t=1h08m31s

This was the world record of a recorded run on a 10' table. The world record on a 10' table is higher (309 - Irving Crane).

Not taking anything away from Stuart Pettman, but his patterns in this run were snooker-like and not really 14.1-ish. Lots of fortunate outcomes.

Freddie <~~~ or so they say
 
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Cornerman said:
A couple of things..

He starts around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvQSmvfbHWg;t=1h08m31s

This was the world record of a recorded run on a 10' table. The world record on a 10' table is higher (309 - Irving Crane).

Not taking anything away from Stuart Pettman, but his patterns in this run were snooker-like and not really 14.1-ish. Lots of fortunate outcomes.

Freddie <~~~ or so they say
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You should cut out the last shot that ended his run.
 
Cornerman said:
A couple of things..

He starts around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvQSmvfbHWg;t=1h08m31s

This was the world record of a recorded run on a 10' table. The world record on a 10' table is higher (309 - Irving Crane).

Not taking anything away from Stuart Pettman, but his patterns in this run were snooker-like and not really 14.1-ish. Lots of fortunate outcomes.

Freddie <~~~ or so they say
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Hi not being a 14-1 player could you clarify what you mean by fortunate outcomes?
 
Cornerman said:
A couple of things..

He starts around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvQSmvfbHWg;t=1h08m31s

This was the world record of a recorded run on a 10' table. The world record on a 10' table is higher (309 - Irving Crane).

Not taking anything away from Stuart Pettman, but his patterns in this run were snooker-like and not really 14.1-ish. Lots of fortunate outcomes.

Freddie <~~~ or so they say
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Stuart now lives in Thailand - made the transition to pool and plays 10 ball at a very high level. Ive seen him beat Mika and lose hill hill to thortsten in races to 21 -10 ball.
Excellent cue ball excellent safety game.

Anyway Chris Melling just won a nailbiter against top player Mathew Stevens, currently ranked about 15th, in his wuxi qualifier match.
 
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