Alex Pagulayan going to UK to try pro snooker

I believe that if anyone can do this, Alex can. He's one of the best all-around pool players in the world who will probably do whatever it takes to win at this game.

It's hard to believe that even a champion like Alex can draw out the 'naysayers'. I hope he proves you all wrong.

Go Alex!

Well said. Gonna be a tough row to hoe.

Best of luck to the Lion. I am glad hr found something cue related to hold his interest again.

He is super talented and a way cool jr.
 
Saying a lot of pro pool players are great golfers doesn't mean Alex (or any pro pool player) would have success at snooker in the UK. Also, despite being excellent golfers, there isn't one that would make the cut on the PGA tour.

I don't mean to take anything away from Keith's win at snooker, but I'm guessing it wasn't against a top snooker pro. Now before you start thinking I'm "hating on pro pool", let me just add that I'm one of Alex's biggest fans. I would love to see him do well in this venture, but as a realist, I have to acknowledge that the odds are severely stacked against him.

You truly haven't met very many champions, have you? It is a characteristic most have.

The golf was an example. I never said all pro pool players are good golfers. Sheesh! :rolleyes:

Find some other words to dissect and get yourself another post on this thread.
 
So lets get this straight...

One of our games top players is disappearing round the world to have a go at another cue sport and this is in some way good news?
 
I don't mean to take anything away from Keith's win at snooker, but I'm guessing it wasn't against a top snooker pro. Now before you start thinking I'm "hating on pro pool", let me just add that I'm one of Alex's biggest fans. I would love to see him do well in this venture, but as a realist, I have to acknowledge that the odds are severely stacked against him.

One more thing, when you grow up playing on a snooker table with extra tight pockets as a child, you learn very quickly how to play snooker for life.

I've seen Keith player snooker players from South Africa, truckers, and a player from Taiwan. Beat 'em all. And snooker is not something Keith plays very often.

The point here, my little GREEN Grasshopper, champions know how to succeed and have the traits to do whatever endeavor they choose. American road players are not one-trick ponies like their European counterparts.

This trait is what separates players like Alex and a shortstop, amateur, social player, and recreational shooter. Alex's will to conquer and soar at heights beyond our gaze is just stronger. Not taking anythning away from social shooters, shortstops, amateurs, and social players.
 
You truly haven't met very many champions, have you? It is a characteristic most have.

The golf was an example. I never said all pro pool players are good golfers. Sheesh! :rolleyes:

Find some other words to dissect and get yourself another post on this thread.

You said you knew a lot of pro pool players were excellent golfers, and I simply added that there isn't a single one (despite their excellency) that would make it on the PGA tour.

Just like a pro pool player would have almost no chance of being top 16 or better in pro snooker. Being a champion in one discipline doesn't automatically mean you'll be a champion in another. You'll probably do well, but there's a huge difference between being good and being top tier.

And in case you missed it the first time, I really really really really (emphasis on REALLY) want Alex to succeed. However, if I were a betting man, I'd bet against him.
 
Does he?

It's only a couple of videos, but they're both sizable breaks so there are plenty of shots to see:

Alex:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oekjq8nbSgQ

Higgins:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuUw0sd_NfA



Anyway, good luck to him. I don't hold out much hope, but I'm a fan of his so it will be interesting to see how he gets on.

Busted...thanx for the videos....Alex does move more.
If John Higgins stopped riding the cue with his chin, he may not move at all.
 
You said you knew a lot of pro pool players were excellent golfers, and I simply added that there isn't a single one (despite their excellency) that would make it on the PGA tour.

Just like a pro pool player would have almost no chance of being top 16 or better in pro snooker. Being a champion in one discipline doesn't automatically mean you'll be a champion in another. You'll probably do well, but there's a huge difference between being good and being top tier.

And in case you missed it the first time, I really really really really (emphasis on REALLY) want Alex to succeed. However, if I were a betting man, I'd bet against him.

Seems like you like to dissect words on this forum. Nobody said they were PGA tour capable.

You don't know much about professional pool players, and that's okay. I'll just consider the source. :)
 
The big picture is Alex is excited about cue sports again, something that has been missing from him lately. He will adapt well over there and hopefully it will be enough to win some matches. But if it doesn't and he turned that fire back into pool, look out he will dominate. I hope he does well and has fun.


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Seems like you like to dissect words on this forum. Nobody said they were PGA tour capable.

You don't know much about professional pool players, and that's okay. I'll just consider the source. :)

And you like to ignore facts and make lazy assumptions.

Alex (or any professional pool player) can have all the want and desire to succeed at snooker. It doesn't mean it's going to happen, but you seem to think that because he's a champion pool player that he's already entitled to do well in the UK.

Michael Jordan was a champion basketball player, but we all remember what happened when he switched to baseball. I guess he just didn't want it bad enough.
 
And you like to ignore facts and make lazy assumptions.

Alex (or any professional pool player) can have all the want and desire to succeed at snooker. It doesn't mean it's going to happen, but you seem to think that because he's a champion pool player that he's already entitled to do well in the UK.

Michael Jordan was a champion basketball player, but we all remember what happened when he switched to baseball. I guess he just didn't want it bad enough.

Jordan was a good baseball player but he was up against great baseball players. Good example for your point.
 
I basically disagree with everything you wrote :o



Most games I have watched with AP, not only does he move his head, but his entire body.



He will most likely be seen as "The Clown of Snooker" as the etiquette in snooker is quite different compared to pool.


I disagree with you. The 'Clown of snooker' comment is just plain silly, give your head a shake


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And you like to ignore facts and make lazy assumptions.

Alex (or any professional pool player) can have all the want and desire to succeed at snooker. It doesn't mean it's going to happen, but you seem to think that because he's a champion pool player that he's already entitled to do well in the UK.

Michael Jordan was a champion basketball player, but we all remember what happened when he switched to baseball. I guess he just didn't want it bad enough.

Ronnie O'Sullivan is a champion snooker player, and he made a nice chunk of change playing 8-ball on the International Pool Tour. Boom!

Next?
 
The big picture is Alex is excited about cue sports again, something that has been missing from him lately. He will adapt well over there and hopefully it will be enough to win some matches. But if it doesn't and he turned that fire back into pool, look out he will dominate. I hope he does well and has fun.


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At the end of the day I hope he enjoys himself and competes to the best of his ability.





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Ronnie O'Sullivan is a champion snooker player, and he made a nice chunk of change playing 8-ball on the International Pool Tour. Boom!

Next?

We're discussing pool players transitioning to snooker, not the other way around.

But I'm done. You win.
 
Good luck to him! He knows his snooker and is well aware of what he is getting into. I hope he does well.
 
I wonder what kind of odds I can get that Alex makes it thru Q-school and on to the main tour. I've seen lots of references, such as "not a prayer", "when hell freezes over" and the like. I should be able to get pretty steep odds. Let me know and we can sweat it a little.
 
I wonder what kind of odds I can get that Alex makes it thru Q-school and on to the main tour. I've seen lots of references, such as "not a prayer", "when hell freezes over" and the like. I should be able to get pretty steep odds. Let me know and we can sweat it a little.

Entry deadline is tomorrow and the fee is £600

From the FAQ page:

HOW MANY MATCHES DO I HAVE TO WIN TO QUALIFY FOR THE 2014/2015 & 2015/2016 MAIN TOUR?

This will be subject to the number of entries, but as a guide, 128 entries will require each player to win 5 matches to reach the Semi Finals and win a tour place.


http://www.worldsnookerqschool.com/guide-to-q-school
 
People make it seem like Alex has played snooker all of his life. While he has been exposed to the game for most of his pool career, I'd be surprised if snooker makes up even 5% of his cue sports experience.

As for his foray over to the UK, I really wish him all the best and I hope he goes far. But realistically, I think it will take months (at a minimum) of playing snooker over there to even get out of Q-school. His competition does nothing but play snooker everyday, all year long. Alex has just taken too much time off this past year to have a serious run.

To put it in perspective, Tom Finstad, one of the perennial top 3 players in Canada, with 60 perfect games under his belt and countless century clearances, failed to get through Q-school each of the several times he has tried (although in his defence he was over 40 years old and had a full time job). He was impressed by the depth of the field in Q-school. He won something like 50% of his matches there, but that was not enough to advance.
 
Ronnie O'Sullivan is a champion snooker player, and he made a nice chunk of change playing 8-ball on the International Pool Tour. Boom!

Next?

IMHO it's a much easier transition from snooker to pool than the other way around


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