Alex vs. Shane - Is this true?

cant blame some people joining the "SHANE IS A POOL GOD" bandwagon. besides, who aside from SHANE played at that certain speed? too bad that there aren't no real competition for Shane to play with or against in the U.S. the only real competition that he has are Asian players (Filipinos and Taiwanese). I doubt it if Europe's best would even try to gamble with the kid. as I know, there is no American player who could match Shane's speed as of the moment. because of that, he's the only hope that the U.S. pool has. the U.S. needs to do some catching up. 1 player cannot do it all alone.
 
Hail Mary Shot said:
cant blame some people joining the "SHANE IS A POOL GOD" bandwagon. besides, who aside from SHANE played at that certain speed? too bad that there aren't no real competition for Shane to play with or against in the U.S. the only real competition that he has are Asian players (Filipinos and Taiwanese). I doubt it if Europe's best would even try to gamble with the kid. as I know, there is no American player who could match Shane's speed as of the moment. because of that, he's the only hope that the U.S. pool has. the U.S. needs to do some catching up. 1 player cannot do it all alone.
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Shane is a world beater, but everyone always forgets about Johnny. He is the best American 9ball player for the cash period.
 
av84fun

"But winner breaks in a professional touring sport is silly and NO similar structure exists in any major sport. And the REASON for that is the fans wouldn't put up with it! PERIOD! Fans want to see COMPETITION. They LOVE Hill/Hill Thrillers. And they DON'T want football games to end in the middle of the 2nd quarter if one team gets up 21-0."

If winner's break format is as silly as you say it is, how come I have never seen 2 GREAT pro/money players set up an alternate break money game format? On money games, the 2 players agrees on a set of rules.. they should know better... the reason for this in my opinion is winner's break format gives you the chance to comeback from any deficit.. you snooze, you lose.. the original poster said it was not a six-pack that finished Shane's night.. he had some chances within those 6 racks.

I agree that trading bullets on an alternate break format has a higher probability to keep the scores close. However this format is only exciting when it goes double hill. What keeps the fans at the edge of their seats are the classic COMEBACKS on a WB format...the chance that Tom can comeback anytime even if Joe is up 6-0.


"So, the STRUCTURE of pool matches should be VERY seriously analyzed and the glaring reality is that matches such as Gomez vs. Feijen was a joke where a world champion sat in his chair with nearly no chance to compete well...or poorly...or AT ALL!"

Not sure if Feijen is a World Champion but IMO he is World Class player, and so is Gomez.. I wouldn't say their match was a joke 'coz nailing you're World class opponent on his chair for 11 straight racks is not a laughing matter..
 
well supposedly Johny Archer has offered SVB an open invitation to play for $30k, dont know all the details but that was said on the TAR broadcast at the DCC. correct me if Im wrong but I think I heard it from there.
 
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Craig said:
well supposedly Johny Archer has offered SVB an open invitation to play for $30k, dont know all the details but that was said on the TAR broadcast at the DCC. correct me if Im wrong but I think I heard it from there.
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shane is the action challengs champion. johny said he would play, IF they played at his room,IF they played on HIS table, IF they played on a tuesday wensday and thursday, and then he said he might be able to get staked for bigger money! shane simply said i will play you in olathe at dan tulls or duffs pol hall in kansas city! neutral ground on a diamond 9 footer! shane offered to play at a neutral site and a neutral table! thats as fair as you can get! so if johny wants t play we might have a spot open in june or july! we are working hard to firm up some matchs for the next few months! we hope you will all enjoy them! thanks again:D
 
bignasty said:
shane is the action challengs champion. johny said he would play, IF they played at his room,IF they played on HIS table, IF they played on a tuesday wensday and thursday, and then he said he might be able to get staked for bigger money! shane simply said i will play you in olathe at dan tulls or duffs pol hall in kansas city! neutral ground on a diamond 9 footer! shane offered to play at a neutral site and a neutral table! thats as fair as you can get! so if johny wants t play we might have a spot open in june or july! we are working hard to firm up some matchs for the next few months! we hope you will all enjoy them! thanks again:D
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Johnny must think he determines all the details for a TAR challenge match. Wrong! If he wants to take on Shane and get the crown of action challenge champion and defend his title of being the best American player, he needs to step up and quit trying to make all of the rules.
 
bignasty said:
if johny wants t play we might have a spot open in june or july!
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Shane is willing to give Johnny a spot if they play in June or July??!! Strong!! :D
 
Roy Steffensen said:
Once again a great post!!!

(But I still Alex in this match-up)
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Hi Roy,

I thought Roberto Gomez is your favourite Filipino player. Has he been replaced by Alex Pagulayan? Anyway, Superman really impressed me in the last WPC. If they meet in a TAR challenge match, do you think Gomez has decent chance of beating the great SVB? I really think SVB should take a trip to the Philippines. The pool environment there should really sharpen up his already great skills.
 
f210 said:
Hi Roy,

I thought Roberto Gomez is your favourite Filipino player. Has he been replaced by Alex Pagulayan? Anyway, Superman really impressed me in the last WPC. If they meet in a TAR challenge match, do you think Gomez has decent chance of beating the great SVB? I really think SVB should take a trip to the Philippines. The pool environment there should really sharpen up his already great skills.
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No one will never replace Roberto Gomez as my favourite player :)

If Roberto and Shane would match-up I would bet on Roberto. I haven't seen Shane play that much (I saw when he slaughtered Corey, and some matches from the DCC, and a few hours live in Manila, at One Side and WPC), but what I have seen of Roberto during the 3 times I have met him is just incredible. Within a few years he will be for sure one of the worlds definitely top players. (in ALL diciplines too)

Shane is also almost a perfect player already, and I think a couple of months in both Taipei and Manila would do him real good.

After some serious money matches in Asia he could finish it off by testing his skills on the worlds hardest 9-ball tour, the Eurotour.
 
TAR did a video interview of Shane where he talked about the WPC in the Phillippines. He won 4 of 5 $$ matches, losing one to Kiamco I believe.

When are the champions from Taipei going to come HERE?
 
lmao Johnny doesnt sound so confident. Compare that to Alex who is saying he just wants to follow SVB around and play him wherever he goes. American players are intimidated by SVB and who can blame them.

Deadpoked have the morality police on AZB gone after you for you avatar yet? I had to take a double and triple look before I realized what your avatar was and wasn't.
 
Roy Steffensen said:
No one will never replace Roberto Gomez as my favourite player :)

If Roberto and Shane would match-up I would bet on Roberto. I haven't seen Shane play that much (I saw when he slaughtered Corey, and some matches from the DCC, and a few hours live in Manila, at One Side and WPC), but what I have seen of Roberto during the 3 times I have met him is just incredible. Within a few years he will be for sure one of the worlds definitely top players. (in ALL diciplines too)

Shane is also almost a perfect player already, and I think a couple of months in both Taipei and Manila would do him real good.

After some serious money matches in Asia he could finish it off by testing his skills on the worlds hardest 9-ball tour, the Eurotour.
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Eurotour? What about those Asian 9ball tours? Guiness or San Miguel, IIRC, and the ones they have in Taiwan, Singapore, etc etc. I figured those would be alot tougher than the Eurotour.
 
uwate said:
lmao Johnny doesnt sound so confident. Compare that to Alex who is saying he just wants to follow SVB around and play him wherever he goes. American players are intimidated by SVB and who can blame them.

Deadpoked have the morality police on AZB gone after you for you avatar yet? I had to take a double and triple look before I realized what your avatar was and wasn't.
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true, regardless of what playing field you are playing at, just be ready to play. this is where and what great players are made of. coming to your opponent's homecourt treated as the villain, and turns up winning and being considered there on in as the hero.
 
Roy Steffensen said:
No one will never replace Roberto Gomez as my favourite player :)

If Roberto and Shane would match-up I would bet on Roberto. I haven't seen Shane play that much (I saw when he slaughtered Corey, and some matches from the DCC, and a few hours live in Manila, at One Side and WPC), but what I have seen of Roberto during the 3 times I have met him is just incredible. Within a few years he will be for sure one of the worlds definitely top players. (in ALL diciplines too)

Shane is also almost a perfect player already, and I think a couple of months in both Taipei and Manila would do him real good.

After some serious money matches in Asia he could finish it off by testing his skills on the worlds hardest 9-ball tour, the Eurotour.
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Gomez had several chances to match up with Shane on his last trip over there and declined. He passed the sword to De Luna, and after he lost, Roberto was not interested. I was there too sir.
 
TAR Feed before the 2nd Alex vs. Shane match at the DCC

Incase anyone missed it, in a classic Alex moment when he was asked what the game was going to be with Shane he answered the question and then said, "actually we should play for something like losser has to shave their head or run around the hotel naked for 20 min."

Alex I'm sure would do either in a heart beat. lol, too funny.

Alex is definately my favorite player, being from Toronto I've been able to watch him, play him and get to know him.

However I agree with JCIN that were lucky to see two guys this caliber that just cant get enough of being in action with eachother. No matter who you like I'm sure we can all agree that there may only be a few players in the world that would battle either of these two head on for cash.

One thing for sure being in action with eachother will elevate these two guys games and that's just a scary thought!!!

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av84fun said:
Thanks DAGS. But Alex broke 6 in a row and I am sure you wouldn't suggest that the break is of zero advantage to the breaker.

Would you suggest that in tennis, the winner of a game should keep serving?

Yes, continuous runs in straight pool were permitted. But there operative word is "were" since that game is virtually extint as far as fan interest is concerned. Do you want pro pool as it exists today to become extinct too?



Gotcha. Fair enough. But the votes are in. NO popular sport has a rule that would prevent one player/team from even getting a SINGLE turn to compete...which can happen with winner breaks and very nearly DID happen at the WPC.

And NO popular sport permits one player/team to maintain control of the ball indefinately.

I RESPECT what you like to see. But those in control of the rules of the POPULAR sports think that the vast majority of the fans want to see balanced competition where both sides get an equal shot.

Regards,
Jim
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Not true at all, Football OT, 1st to score wins. If you win the toss and kick a fieldgoal, other team does not get to try. Hockey, same thing. How would you play straight pool? Each person gets 10 shots, then the other one comes in for 10? In tennis, the serve is much bigger of an advantage than in pool. The newest players are over 6' and you are off-balance soon as you return serve, if you even can. Note all of the super strong players lately have had a huge serve. Pool break has a randomness factor to a fairly large degree, more so than starting positions in sports. In football it would be like a coin toss to see what start field position is instead of relying on the kicker's and the returner's skill.

You also might as well take away safetly play too, not many sports you can hide a ball and have the opponent shoot from there.
 
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Not true at all, Football OT, 1st to score wins. If you win the toss and kick a fieldgoal, other team does not get to try. Hockey, same thing. How would you play straight pool? Each person gets 10 shots, then the other one comes in for 10? In tennis, the serve is much bigger of an advantage than in pool. The newest players are over 6' and you are off-balance soon as you return serve, if you even can. Note all of the super strong players lately have had a huge serve. Pool break has a randomness factor to a fairly large degree, more so than starting positions in sports. In football it would be like a coin toss to see what start field position is instead of relying on the kicker's and the returner's skill.

You also might as well take away safetly play too, not many sports you can hide a ball and have the opponent shoot from there.
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With top level players, the break is probably the biggest factor. You do not necessarily have to have a great shot on the next ball after the break if you make one, but it allows you to keep control of the table and the first shot with top level players is HUGE. JMO.

Southpaw
 
Alex and Shane both have huge games, big hearts, and are fun to play. I hope they butt heads for the next 20 years and go back and forth, and TAR makes DVDs of them all. This last DVD was the dead nuts.

It would be cool to see them match up in 9 ball, straight pool, banks, and one pocket. They should do an all around. Just my .02
 
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