Sad day today,lets have all our thoughts to the victims and family in virginia.HORRIBLE act of cowardness.
All Our Prayers For The Victims,family,at Virginia Tech
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Its pathetic.For what its worth,i hope the cops ended his life NOT him.
Do you know if he attended college there? I hear that he planned to attack a particular engineering class and such.
I grew up in a relatively rural area of Colorado where we hunted, and always had more than 20 types of firearms around. Where I come from, firearms were not a means of self defense but more or less a 'tool' that we used to keep animals away from our stock, being able to keep mountain lions from attacking our dogs/cats, and always carried while fishing in case we made the mistake of coming between a bear and her cubs. NEVER to be used against another person for whatever reason. So I've always been for the right to bear arms. However, now that I have family, and am trying to convince my Japanese wife of how safe it is to move to the states........................................it really makes me think. Having lived in Japan for the past 17 years, where guns are illegal and unobtainable with the exception of the mob, I've never wondered about walking into a convenience store at 3am, and have never had to worry about sending my wife to the post office.
Although I generally agree with the American right to bear arms, I also have to admit that I think that there's something wrong with the system that makes getting a gun easier than getting a drivers license. Some people just aren't fit to handle the responsibility, and at the moment, we have no testing or license process to weed them out.
dave
Although I generally agree with the American right to bear arms, I also have to admit that I think that there's something wrong with the system that makes getting a gun easier than getting a drivers license. Some people just aren't fit to handle the responsibility, and at the moment, we have no testing or license process to weed them out.
dave
Tokyo-dave said:
Its not the gun that kills people, its the person behind the weapon. Guns dont do anything unless you have someone behind it. Thats why I find it interesting when the governement declares war on guns. You can't do that, you have to try to solve the other problem, which is people. There is not excuse for what this man did but, maybe he was overwhelmed at school, or work, and then just broke. I'm just saying that if this guy wanted to kill someone, he would do it one way or the other. Maybe he would use a knife etc. The majority of citizens in the US handle weapons with responsibility, but there are those select few who ruin it for everyone.
Major sympathies to those victimized. We all know words fail to convey the horrific truth of the events.
This belongs in the NPR section though!
This belongs in the NPR section though!
These things make me incredibly sad & wonder what the hell is wrong with the world. When I think about the families who have lost people there today it almost brings me to tears. A horrible day indeed & my thoughts are with everyone involved in this tragedy.
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Blacksburg is a hilly, rural and beautiful area - I lived in VA many years, had a few friends attend Va. Tech and visited there every now and then. It was voted years ago when the use of the internet was becoming more common, as the most "wired" city per capita in the US. It is unique for so many reasons that are positive, I hope that this event does not marr that fact for years to come.
God please bless all those family members, friends, and loved of all those who died today to help them through their shock, grief and pain. God grant them the ability to make it through each day as their hearts break and during those times when they just want to shut down and hide from life during their most painful moments, both now and the months to come. God please make it possible for those who were devasted in Blacksburg today to move past today, past the anger, past the "why" and to remember what made each person who died today special and how they lovingly contributed to the world around them. God please help everyone to also forgive. Please watch over those who survived yet also witnessed the violence to be able to continue with their life and not be hindered by the shock this kind of tragedy witnessed can cause to a person. Please also remember the pain too of those who lost a son who was the cause of everyone else's pain - the one who took those lives, that they too survive the pain, the shame, the stigma, the shock that someone, their son, was capable of committing such a crazed and hateful act upon others and himself.
Blacksburg is a hilly, rural and beautiful area - I lived in VA many years, had a few friends attend Va. Tech and visited there every now and then. It was voted years ago when the use of the internet was becoming more common, as the most "wired" city per capita in the US. It is unique for so many reasons that are positive, I hope that this event does not marr that fact for years to come.
God please bless all those family members, friends, and loved of all those who died today to help them through their shock, grief and pain. God grant them the ability to make it through each day as their hearts break and during those times when they just want to shut down and hide from life during their most painful moments, both now and the months to come. God please make it possible for those who were devasted in Blacksburg today to move past today, past the anger, past the "why" and to remember what made each person who died today special and how they lovingly contributed to the world around them. God please help everyone to also forgive. Please watch over those who survived yet also witnessed the violence to be able to continue with their life and not be hindered by the shock this kind of tragedy witnessed can cause to a person. Please also remember the pain too of those who lost a son who was the cause of everyone else's pain - the one who took those lives, that they too survive the pain, the shame, the stigma, the shock that someone, their son, was capable of committing such a crazed and hateful act upon others and himself.
The fact that someone could shoot that many people ...
over what has been reported (if correct) a 4 - 5 hour period is beyond belief !
My prayers will be with and for all of the parents and loved ones of these students ! This could have been any one of our children or friends!
over what has been reported (if correct) a 4 - 5 hour period is beyond belief !
My prayers will be with and for all of the parents and loved ones of these students ! This could have been any one of our children or friends!
I agree totally with your statement. Which is why I believe we need some kind of a system to take a good look at who may or may not be "the person behind the gun." Currently in the US, everybody has the right to drive a car but only if they meet the test standards. Everybody has the right to an education, but only if they can pass the entry exams. Everybody has the right to employment, but only if they're found qualified and selected via the application process. Only with guns do we have a system where EVERYBODY and ANYBODY that wants one can have one. I'm a NRA supporter, and avid hunter, and very serious about my right to own firearms, however, and I think you would have to agree, that there are (I'm sure you've met several too) literally hundreds of individuals I've met or have been around that would make me very nervous knowing that they had a gun. I know, and have met many many people that when pushed in the right way, could be pushed to exploding and into doing something crazy. And that "something crazy" could be a baseball bat injuring two or three people, or a gun killing dozens.8-Ball Player said:
Wouldn't want an 85 year old lady that takes 10 minutes to decide weather or not she wants white or whole wheat toast to be driving a car on the street that your kids walk to school every morning would you? Thank God we have a system to test such individuals before giving them a drivers license. Some 14 year old war displaced kid immigrates from a war torn third world country where he/shes grown up in a society where possibly having to kill, or the threat of being killed is daily life. Put him in an American high school where the 200lb star football player makes a move on his girl, then put a gun in his hand......................................now do you feel safe?
Some people shouldn't own or have access to guns. Now I have no idea of how to determine who, but it is a fact.
dave
Tokyo-dave said:
Yes, I agree with you 100% I'm sorry if I came off strong, I just have strong feelings about that subject. I am a NRA member, and absolutly love hunting as well. Yes that is a very good idea about putting some sort of application or test, when someone wants to buy a gun. The legal age for a firearm in Utah is 18, not to mention the trolly square insedent that happened a couple of months ago here in Utah. (18 year old kid killed 6 people and then died in a police fight.) And then of course all the other shootings that go on. It just seems outragous that anyone can buy a gun, why isnt somthing done about this. Maybe people should start speaking up, dont really know if that would do anything.
BTW. I dont think the driver license test is adequete enough, I see a ton of crazy drivers every day, including some old people who should not be on the road at all. If the driving test was adequate enough, then 75% of drivers would be off the road. In my opinion.
Sorry again for coming off so strong, I appricate your feed back.
This is unbelievably terrible news about VA Tech! I was there just 6 months ago, to work with the billiards team for a whole weekend. They have a great poolroom, and over 20 people on their collegiate pocket billiards team. I was very proud of the hard work they put in, when they played in a collegiate team tournament a month later at UMichigan, in Ann Arbor, taking 3rd place, after finishing 8th-12th last year! A couple of them post here sometimes. It's a tragedy that this happens anywhere, but especially tragic on a college campus. I hope and pray that none of the victims were kids that I worked with...
Scott Lee
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its all very very sad indeed... i will be saying many prayers for them and their families..
chris
chris
beyond belief.
This is about people. This is about people's children.
The sadness that follows this event will continue to give for years to come. There is a vast rent in the cosmic fabric. Words cannot begin to define this event.
The sorrow felt by the families involved needs to be felt by all.
This is about people. This is about people's children.
The sadness that follows this event will continue to give for years to come. There is a vast rent in the cosmic fabric. Words cannot begin to define this event.
The sorrow felt by the families involved needs to be felt by all.
Very sad, its so hard to even try to comprehend the pain those families must feel, I cant express How I feel, I just know this is to close to home not to take any action reguading a potential threat to our schools and comunity as a whole. Something has to be done to protect people from Terrorist acts of violence. I see this as nothing less.
SPINDOKTOR
SPINDOKTOR
It was an act so haneous it stuptifies me. My heart is in my stomach. I have had this sense off loss all day. I have a nephew that attended Va tech two years ago, their family lives in Roanoke. That area is a close knit community. I can't imagine the pain and agony the parents of the victims are in right now. A parent should never lose a child. Especially this way.
I havent felt this overwhelming sense of loss since 9-11-01. It had that weight of it.
But I also get the feeling and learning more on the news that there's a little more to it all. So much confusing reports. One of our workers has a close friend that attends there. Mike called the guy today and left a message just to check on him. The guy called back and told Mike that he was not on the campus at the time. But his residency is in Randolph Hall where the gunman apparently went through to get to Norris Hall. The caller told Mike that other friends told him that they're were two shooters.
He didnt stay on the phone long.
I looked at my 9 year old daughter after dinner tonight, watching her doing her homework. And all I could think about was the pain and suffering of the parents of those victims. I feel bad for saying this, but I agree that I wish the gunman had met a swarm of bullets from law enforcement instead of turning on himself.
Our prayers and our hearts go out to ALL that have been victimized by this
terrible act.
I havent felt this overwhelming sense of loss since 9-11-01. It had that weight of it.
But I also get the feeling and learning more on the news that there's a little more to it all. So much confusing reports. One of our workers has a close friend that attends there. Mike called the guy today and left a message just to check on him. The guy called back and told Mike that he was not on the campus at the time. But his residency is in Randolph Hall where the gunman apparently went through to get to Norris Hall. The caller told Mike that other friends told him that they're were two shooters.
He didnt stay on the phone long.
I looked at my 9 year old daughter after dinner tonight, watching her doing her homework. And all I could think about was the pain and suffering of the parents of those victims. I feel bad for saying this, but I agree that I wish the gunman had met a swarm of bullets from law enforcement instead of turning on himself.
Our prayers and our hearts go out to ALL that have been victimized by this
terrible act.
There was a professor from NYU who was talking about this on CNN, and he says the problem is not guns but the changes that have come about in how children/teens are raised. He points out that just as many guns were available and owned in the 50s, but only in the last 20 or so years have there been more and more frequent shootings.
Rest in Peace to the departed and recover fully to the injured
my thoughts and most solemn prayers go out to the families that have lost loved ones during this senseless tragedy and to the families of the wounded and injured also.. May the departed rest in eternal peace at the right hand of our Lord. May the wounded and injured fully recover from their injuries. May the Good Lord watch over the rest of us and hear our prayers.........mike
my thoughts and most solemn prayers go out to the families that have lost loved ones during this senseless tragedy and to the families of the wounded and injured also.. May the departed rest in eternal peace at the right hand of our Lord. May the wounded and injured fully recover from their injuries. May the Good Lord watch over the rest of us and hear our prayers.........mike