allison fisher cuetec cues

[travis trotter]

well it seems that cuetec has only shane van boneing for there rep now allison fisher i guess is not anymore her cue line on cuetec.com is gone i guess she did leave cuetec or does anybody here have the news about this? or go to cuetec.com and look at the new cuetec 2011 catalog they got 2 new r360 cues and one in the edge series and the new bullet break cue

 

[Maniac]

Gosh TT, we thought YOU were the "go to" guy for this type of information . Keep us posted!!!

Maniac (couldn't believe there was an actual piece of puncuation in Travis Trotters post)

 

[Oregonmeds]

well it seems that cuetec has only shane van boneing for there rep now allison fisher i guess is not anymore her cue line on cuetec.com is gone i guess she did leave cuetec or does anybody here have the news about this? or go to cuetec.com and look at the new cuetec 2011 catalog they got 2 new r360 cues and one in the edge series and the new bullet break cue

You do know any cue that isn't wood is junk right? Of course, you're a pro...Cough Cough.

SVB needs the cash and probably sold himself cheap. They probably had less money available for sponorship/marketing due to the economy than Allison would accept for using such a crappy cue any more. All just guessing of course...

If you're a sales guy there, how about you tell r & d to find a way to make fiberglass or carbon fiber glide through your fingers like a wood cue without having to buy the cuetec brand cue "grease" or any? (And not have to use chalk or baby powder or a glove either.)

That way a good deal cheap stick that you can leave in your car overnight and not care about stays cheap over time, rather than costing a person more than a good wood cue because you always have to put junk on it to make it useable?

Bad product... But I give it one benefit, I sure wouldn't want to get hit with one.


But thanks for sponsoring pool, I appreciate it. :thumbup:

 

[trustyrusty]

thanks

 

[Maniac]

You do know any cue that isn't wood is junk right? SVB needs the cash and probably sold himself cheap. They probably had less money available for sponorship/marketing than Allison would accept for using such a crappy cue any more.

All just guessing of course...

If you're a sales guy there, how about you tell r & d to find a way to make fiberglass or carbon fiber glide through your fingers like a wood cue without having to buy the cuetec brand cue "grease" or any?

That way a good deal cheap stick that you can leave in your car overnight and not care about stays cheap over time, rather than costing a person more than a good wood cue because you always have to put junk on it to make it useable?

Bad product...

But thanks for sponsoring pool, I appreciate it. :thumbup:

Actually, the R360 is a wood shaft, and not a bad one imo (yes, I own one).

Maniac (absolutely dislikes the SST shaft though)

 

[Oregonmeds]

Sorry I'm in a real bad mood right now, I was coming back to delete my rant but too late.

Cuetec got a wood shaft? Awesome now they're on to something.
Go wood!:grin:

 

[Scott Lee]

Oregonmeds...You seem like a decent guy, but you really have wrong information. SVB signed a very lucrative contract with Cuetec, and he ain't broke either! You should know that the majority of Cuetec sales are in Asia, not the USA. FTR, Allison won more tournaments with that "crappy" cue than any woman in history. BTW, Cuetecs ARE made of wood.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

You do know any cue that isn't wood is junk right? Of course, you're a pro...Cough Cough.

SVB needs the cash and probably sold himself cheap. They probably had less money available for sponorship/marketing due to the economy than Allison would accept for using such a crappy cue any more. All just guessing of course...

If you're a sales guy there, how about you tell r & d to find a way to make fiberglass or carbon fiber glide through your fingers like a wood cue without having to buy the cuetec brand cue "grease" or any? (And not have to use chalk or baby powder or a glove either.)

That way a good deal cheap stick that you can leave in your car overnight and not care about stays cheap over time, rather than costing a person more than a good wood cue because you always have to put junk on it to make it useable?

Bad product... But I give it one benefit, I sure wouldn't want to get hit with one.


But thanks for sponsoring pool, I appreciate it. :thumbup:

 

[conetip]

You do know any cue that isn't wood is junk right? Of course, you're a pro...Cough Cough.



If you're a sales guy there, how about you tell r & d to find a way to make fiberglass or carbon fiber glide through your fingers like a wood cue without having to buy the cuetec brand cue "grease" or any? (And not have to use chalk or baby powder or a glove either.)


There is a way of making the carbon fibre glide through your fingers smoother than wood.It comes down to cost as to the reason that others do not do it.

Neil

 

[ChazL]

. . .couldn't believe there was an actual piece of puncuation in Travis Trotters post

Maniac:

I assume you are referring to the question mark.

Being of a generous nature, I've also counted the "dots" in the two "cuetec.com" references. That makes THREE pieces of punctuation!!!

-Chaz

 

[JB Cases]

Whoever thought up the travis trotter character is a marketing GENIUS!!!!

 

[JB Cases]

You do know any cue that isn't wood is junk right? Of course, you're a pro...Cough Cough.



If you're a sales guy there, how about you tell r & d to find a way to make fiberglass or carbon fiber glide through your fingers like a wood cue without having to buy the cuetec brand cue "grease" or any? (And not have to use chalk or baby powder or a glove either.)


There is a way of making the carbon fibre glide through your fingers smoother than wood.It comes down to cost as to the reason that others do not do it.

Neil

I used to use sandpaper on mine and that worked well. I sanded and sealed my cuetec shaft just as I would with any other shaft and it was fine.

I have mentioned this a few times on the forum. I did it just to see what would happen and what happened is that I ended up with a slick shaft to use. The cue (old old model) still felt dead but it was completely playable.

 

[JB Cases]

You do know any cue that isn't wood is junk right? Of course, you're a pro...Cough Cough.

SVB needs the cash and probably sold himself cheap. They probably had less money available for sponorship/marketing due to the economy than Allison would accept for using such a crappy cue any more. All just guessing of course...

If you're a sales guy there, how about you tell r & d to find a way to make fiberglass or carbon fiber glide through your fingers like a wood cue without having to buy the cuetec brand cue "grease" or any? (And not have to use chalk or baby powder or a glove either.)

That way a good deal cheap stick that you can leave in your car overnight and not care about stays cheap over time, rather than costing a person more than a good wood cue because you always have to put junk on it to make it useable?

Bad product... But I give it one benefit, I sure wouldn't want to get hit with one.


But thanks for sponsoring pool, I appreciate it. :thumbup:

A bit off base here. Cuetec might be the cue brand with more world titles associated with it than any other in the past twenty years. Love them or hate them they aren't going anywhere and they play ok. The R360 shaft actually feels pretty good.

Regarding gloves - I used to hate them - last night though I had to wear one using my Jensen because it was simply too sticky in the pool room to keep my hands dry. Of course being hammered by the best player in town probably had something to do with my hands not staying dry as well.

 

[JoeyInCali]

A bit off base here. Cuetec might be the cue brand with more world titles associated with it than any other in the past twenty years. Love them or hate them they aren't going anywhere and they play ok. The R360 shaft actually feels pretty good.

Regarding gloves - I used to hate them - last night though I had to wear one using my Jensen because it was simply too sticky in the pool room to keep my hands dry. Of course being hammered by the best player in town probably had something to do with my hands not staying dry as well.

Didn't Earl have custom made shafts on his Cuetec ?
I believe Allison had her shaft cut down and re-ferruled .
So, they are still semi-custom if that were true.

 

[Varney Cues]

Didn't Earl have custom made shafts on his Cuetec ?
I believe Allison had her shaft cut down and re-ferruled .
So, they are still semi-custom if that were true.

Semi-custom indeed.

 

[JB Cases]

Didn't Earl have custom made shafts on his Cuetec ?
I believe Allison had her shaft cut down and re-ferruled .
So, they are still semi-custom if that were true.

Earl had his Cuetec shafts retapered by Joe Blackburn to his liking. So the LESSON there is that you can win multiple world championships and play like god IF you use a Cuetec and tweak it to your liking. (oh and having world class skill doesn't hurt)

Allison changed the ferrules on some of her cues but on others she played with the cue out of the box.

So if someone bought a Joey Bautista cue and they changed the taper and ferrule would it not be one of yours any longer?

I don't really get the whole obsession with trying to "out" professionals who tweak their equipment to suit themselves. What person does not do this with any cue they own?

The REASON that a company sponsors a player is to introduce the brand to the world. So that the consuming public will take notice of the brand. In no advertisement anywhere does it ever say that you can play with the exact same cue that the pro uses. And even if the pro played with a cue that is completely 100% stock off-the-shelf what does that even mean? Does it THEN mean that the cue is great?

What about when a pro takes a cue and tweaks it and then the manufacturer changes their line to be more like what the pro likes? Does THAT mean that the cue is now great?

The only thing that matters when a professional player is sponsored is that hopefully it inspires people to try the brand and at that point the brand has to please the consumers enough to go ahead and buy it.

If you want to pick a percentage then what percentage "Cuetec" do you think Earl's, Allison's and Shane's cues are/were?

I can ask them as well as I can ask Jones Chang the owner of Cuetec if you like.

Anyway, so I guess the lesson you want to impart is that Cuetec is a great base cue that can be easily modified if desired. That is what you mean to say right?

Or are you trying to say that a Cuetec sucks and must be modified to play halfway decent?

Either way it appears as if it works well enough to win championships with it.

Nothing more brutal than getting a beatdown by someone wielding a Cuetec. Because after they take your money if you try to stiff them they can beat you up with their cue and not worry about breaking it.

 

[Varney Cues]

Actually...Earl had the fiberglass sanded off his Cuetec shaft...which made them very skinny all the way back to the joint. I think that taper is somewhat meant to be copied when they came out with their SST shafts. Anyone could clearly see on any of Earl's televised matches that his shaft was discolored badly with chalk patina back to within an inch of the joint collar. Factory Cuetec shafts don't absorb patina. Nothing wrong with that...he played with Cuetec parts...just tweaked them to his liking. Allison on the other hand won the majority of her tournies with the factory shaft that came on her first white Cuetec....fiberglass intact.:smile:
Is Travis Trotter the son of Jones Chang?:grin:

 

[Oregonmeds]

Whoever said I had my info wrong, that doesn't suprise me, I'm often wrong. Wrong about at least something on a daily basis pretty much.

But I don't think it means anything to say that Allison won the majority of her matches with a cuetec cue, nor do too many others, she's of the level she could win the majority of matches with a mop handle or pretty much anything.

It'll be the same with SVB, you could give the kid a house cue, well basically you are. Hopefullly he'll push for a wood shaft that doesn't feel dead but remains straight even in the worst conditions and help them get a product most players would not moan about if they had to use without endoresement.

I've always wanted something I could just leave in my trunk all the time.

I have a couple graphite house cues that came with my used table, If I sand them they'll be more playable? What grit?

 

[JB Cases]

Whoever said I had my info wrong, that doesn't suprise me, I'm often wrong. Wrong about at least something on a daily basis pretty much.

But I don't think it means anything to say that Allison won the majority of her matches with a cuetec cue, nor do too many others, she's of the level she could win the majority of matches with a mop handle or pretty much anything.

It'll be the same with SVB, you could give the kid a house cue, well basically you are. Hopefullly he'll push for a wood shaft that doesn't feel dead but remains straight even in the worst conditions and help them get a product most players would not moan about if they had to use without endoresement.

I've always wanted something I could just leave in my trunk all the time.

I have a couple graphite house cues that came with my used table, If I sand them they'll be more playable? What grit?

Of course it means something. If how cues play didn't mean anything then we wouldn't be dissing them would we?

Allison is one hell of a player no doubt, Shane is one hell of a player, no doubt, and Earl's record is probably untouchable. I don't however believe for a second that any one of these players would trade the sponsorship by taking on a tremendous handicap against the field if the cues were as bad as you make them out to be.

The fact of it is that there MUST be at least a minimum standard of performance that any pool cue HAS to have for any world-class player to use it when playing against other world-class players.

So obviously Cuetec fills that minimum standard with acceptable tweaking that any person could do to their cue.

Additionally I have had my ass kicked by very very good Cuetec-using players and I have been pretty sure that their cues were nearly stock.

Regarding sanding the Cuetec-style cues I did mine with 12-1500 grit.

 

[Oregonmeds]

Of course it means something. If how cues play didn't mean anything then we wouldn't be dissing them would we?

Allison is one hell of a player no doubt, Shane is one hell of a player, no doubt, and Earl's record is probably untouchable. I don't however believe for a second that any one of these players would trade the sponsorship by taking on a tremendous handicap against the field if the cues were as bad as you make them out to be.

The fact of it is that there MUST be at least a minimum standard of performance that any pool cue HAS to have for any world-class player to use it when playing against other world-class players.

So obviously Cuetec fills that minimum standard with acceptable tweaking that any person could do to their cue.

Additionally I have had my ass kicked by very very good Cuetec-using players and I have been pretty sure that their cues were nearly stock.

Regarding sanding the Cuetec-style cues I did mine with 12-1500 grit.

They're a straight cue that plays dead as road kill, but they do work. Not that I'm using anything really lively myself, down to just a mcdermott which I guess is about as dead as you can make a wood cue. I miss my meucci originals, but it got stolen years ago.

I'll try sanding one of these clubs and stick a new tip on it, and see if it can keep a place in the trunk. I dont always have my stuff with me and lately nobody seems to be keeping up maintenance on their house cues.
If nothing else one of these would be a decent break cue, I've really been messing up my buffalo medium tip always breaking with it. I need to find a decent low $$ cue to replace that old meucci one of these days, If I'm ever out of deep debt again that is.

 

[Maniac]

It'll be the same with SVB, you could give the kid a house cue, well basically you are. Hopefullly he'll push for a wood shaft that doesn't feel dead but remains straight even in the worst conditions and help them get a product most players would not moan about if they had to use without endoresement.

I tried to tell you in my last post that the cue shane uses is an R360, which has a WOOD low-deflection shaft


I have a couple graphite house cues that came with my used table, If I sand them they'll be more playable? What grit?

If you try sanding a graphite cue down (as opposed to a fiberglass CLADDED shaft) and go too far, you will eventually get down to the fiberglass cords, and you won't like the results.




Maniac (hope he "gets" it this time)