Allison Fisher Cutec Shaft Conspiracy!
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Kristi Carter
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Seriously?
You can't be serious...
So what exactly did you mean by your quote, "I can assure you that it's a customized shaft but becasue of pending contract restrictions she cannot nor will not divulge any info otherwise due to breach of contract !!!!"
Sounds pretty definitive and first hand to me.
The fact is Allison has never used a customized shaft on her Cuetec cue during any professional competition. She used a stock SST for 13 years and now uses a stock R360.
People and cuemakers have provided her dozens of various things to test, many she has never bothered with, and some she has; but that has absolutely nothing to do with what cue and shaft she plays with routinely.
It's often easier just to admit when you've made a wrong statement. It is impossible for your "source" to be correct. End of story.
WheatCues said:
You can't be serious...
So what exactly did you mean by your quote, "I can assure you that it's a customized shaft but becasue of pending contract restrictions she cannot nor will not divulge any info otherwise due to breach of contract !!!!"
Sounds pretty definitive and first hand to me.
The fact is Allison has never used a customized shaft on her Cuetec cue during any professional competition. She used a stock SST for 13 years and now uses a stock R360.
People and cuemakers have provided her dozens of various things to test, many she has never bothered with, and some she has; but that has absolutely nothing to do with what cue and shaft she plays with routinely.
It's often easier just to admit when you've made a wrong statement. It is impossible for your "source" to be correct. End of story.
WheatCues said:
hi,
After Kristy`s post with factual information you should have acknowledged your ignorance of the facts and said sorry or kept quiet without posting, intead you responded in very provocative and also in a defensive manner.Why don`t you please quit responding in a inappropriate manner.peace
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Do you have any idea what you post or do you just bang away at the keyboard just to see your name on the internet? Oh thats right you call it "marketing" 
You clearly did make an inappropriate statement and just as clearly have no idea what youre talking about. The same applies to your "Professional" player friends.
Ms Fisher has contributed as much or more to this game than any person involved in it and here you are spreading gossipp about her like a two year old. You really should be ashamed of yourself.
You clearly did make an inappropriate statement and just as clearly have no idea what youre talking about. The same applies to your "Professional" player friends.
Ms Fisher has contributed as much or more to this game than any person involved in it and here you are spreading gossipp about her like a two year old. You really should be ashamed of yourself.
WheatCues said:
I sat right behind Earl at the Glass City Open a few years back and watched him play Nick Varner. He missed a shot and threw his cue down and broke the shaft. He opened his case and grabbed another shaft. The broken shaft and the new shaft that he put on were both Cuetec Thunderbolt shafts.
I have watched Allison play at several pro events. She always had what looked to be a standard Cuetec SST shaft on her cue.
And Johnny Archer has always had what appears to be a standard Scorpion shaft, too.
Joe
I have watched Allison play at several pro events. She always had what looked to be a standard Cuetec SST shaft on her cue.
And Johnny Archer has always had what appears to be a standard Scorpion shaft, too.
Joe
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WheatCues
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TellsItLikeItIs said:Do you have any idea what you post or do you just bang away at the keyboard just to see your name on the internet? Oh thats right you call it "marketing"
You clearly did make an inappropriate statement and just as clearly have no idea what youre talking about. The same applies to your "Professional" player friends.
Ms Fisher has contributed as much or more to this game than any person involved in it and here you are spreading gossipp about her like a two year old. You really should be ashamed of yourself.
Big friggin deal... If I'm wrong so be it !!!
I was just adding to the speculation of it becasue I PERSONALLY have seen other pro-players shafts that were customized and being a player myself and have competted in numeroous events with other top pros I have witnessed firsthand at custom alterations in the past !!!
Earl and Allison are NOT above having custom alterations.... whether or not it is or isn't doesn't mean squat becasue WE will never know due to "leak containment specialists" to avoid public controversy !!!
I'm simply making a point and attesting to alterations I have seen personally becasue of an emergency repair I have done for fellow sponsored players myself !
I really don't care what you opinion of me is regarding a trivial issue that has absolutely ZERO to do with either one of us !!!
P.S. I was NOT spreading gossip.... I was stating an observation and collected data from reputable players and I DID NOT start this thread so DONT PUT THIS ON ME !
And please do NOT manipulate my words !!!!
- Eddie Wheat
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You had your chance to do the right thing but you have chosen do dance around. So be it. You have been the subject of previous controversies and given your 4th grade playground rumor-spreading, I can understand why.
Why don't you just MAN UP and apologize for spreading false rumors????
Jim
Why don't you just MAN UP and apologize for spreading false rumors????
Jim
WheatCues said:
WheatCues said:
You are most certainly wrong.
You didn't just add to the speculation, you made a definitive statement based on PERSONALLY seeing OTHER players.
Your words are your own and don't need manipulation.
Eddie, take it or leave it but you should really type into a Word document, proof read it, have someone else proof read it, and THEN, maybe, post it.
Okay. I wont manipulate your words. Ill quote em hows that?
Okay you have seen other top Pros that had customized shafts. What does that have to do with Ms Fisher? Nothing! Ms Fisher could play lights out with a shovel handle she doesn't need a custom shaft.
Since you dont want me to manipulate your words please tell me what "competted in numeroous events" means. I have no idea what youre talking about.
It is a "big friggin deal" when you speak of a Pro Player in such a way that it may effect their relationship with their sponsor. And you definitely are wrong.WheatCues said:
Yes you were adding to the SPECULATION. Key word there Mr Wheat SPECULATION. Not fact but SPECULATION.
Okay you have seen other top Pros that had customized shafts. What does that have to do with Ms Fisher? Nothing! Ms Fisher could play lights out with a shovel handle she doesn't need a custom shaft.
Since you dont want me to manipulate your words please tell me what "competted in numeroous events" means. I have no idea what youre talking about.
Once again you dont have a clue.
There is no public controversy. There is only SPECULATION by certain people wanting to show what they know. Or in your case dont know.
Again. That has nothing to do with Ms Fisher.
It isnt a trivial issue. Youre making asinine statements about a World Champion. Statements that are not only untrue but plain old nonsense.
Yes sir Mr Varney. Just cause you said it doesnt mean I should put it on you does it :kma:
WheatCues
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av84fun said:
I wasn't spreading false rumors... only adding to the PRE-EXISTING speculation of THIS THREAD !!!!
I simply made a statement that was supported by other fellow pro players that hershaft was NOT original !!!
I did NOT start this damn thread and I'm not going to appologize for putting my 2 friggin cents in !!!!
Just becasue someone else says it's NOT customized doesn't mean that's true either !!!!
I simply relayed creditable info... from fellow pros ! if you don't like what I have to say then OH WELL !
As I said before Allison will NEVER NEVER NEVER divulge anykind of compromising firsthand info. about her cuetec cue until she is no longer sponsored by cuetec !!!!
I don't know her personally and really don't care one way or the other if her cue IS or is NOT altered from it's original stock production !!!
Everytime I make a statement or give an opinion ther's always some "clown" that wants to pick a fight because he doesn't like to hear what I have to say !!!
THIS IS A FORUM WHICH MEANS PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINIONS WITHOUT PERSCECUTION AND JUDGEMENT !
Perhaps if you analyzed my first response to this thread CAREFULLY you will see that it's more of a summarization and defense for Allison and that her personal cuesmith should keep his mouth shut about what he has done to her shaft !!!!
I have more important things to do than to get into a trivial quarrel over someone else's altered shaft... Allison and Earl may or may not have altered shafts... but when most of the top pro's shafts and butts are customized to THEIR own specifications than what in the hell makes those two an exception.. ESPECIALLY SINCE THEY ARE BOTH #1` RANKED !!!!
I am done with this thread... I have cues to build and shafts to customize for players and customers !!!
So feel free to argue amongst yourselves over this menial crap because WE will NEVER know the TRUTH ! due to "leak containment specialists" and direct source restrictions....
- Eddie Wheat
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hmm
interesting how some people on this forum take word of mouth as "facts". just because a person is working for someone, it doesnt mean what they say are facts.
until allison says something directly, everything said on this thread is just hearsay. she may or may not be using a stock shaft, but we'll probably never know unless you're a close personal "BFF" of her's...and even then there's no guarantee she'll give up info on her livlihood.
top pro's have a gift that 99% of other pool players dont have. thats why they are top pro's. given enough time, they can shoot well with just about anything.
time to move on folks.
interesting how some people on this forum take word of mouth as "facts". just because a person is working for someone, it doesnt mean what they say are facts.
until allison says something directly, everything said on this thread is just hearsay. she may or may not be using a stock shaft, but we'll probably never know unless you're a close personal "BFF" of her's...and even then there's no guarantee she'll give up info on her livlihood.
top pro's have a gift that 99% of other pool players dont have. thats why they are top pro's. given enough time, they can shoot well with just about anything.
time to move on folks.
I did get a chance to talk to Allison this past weekend at Murphys new place and here is what she said. She does use a Cue tec stock shaft. Its the R360 or R380 or something like that. Its a wooden shaft that has hardly any deflection. She said she used the graphite coated shaft for over 10 years and is what she won most of her championships with. She also said in closing, that she had never met Ed Wheat and doesnt even know who he is. I thought this was funny, since I didnt mention anything about AZ Billiards or the internet.
Southpaw
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This is where he vehemently replies on how he never said he met her or said anything about her not playing with a stock shaft. Can't wait.
I'm not a legal expert so I'm wondering, do some of the statements made in this thread border on libel? I'm also not a potential Cuetec customer, but if I were, I'd be a little put off if I believed Eddie Wheat. Fortunately for Cuetec and Alison, it seems pretty self-evident that he's full of it.
Mr. Wheat defended himself by saying that he has a right to state his opinion on here, but the problem is that it's not stated as opinion, rather as fact. Well, where's the proof? The proof is that some nameless pro told you so? Well did he tell you that he's so sure that he would let you scream it on the internet? Why doesn't the pro let you give his or her name?
Maybe the mods don't have a problem with what you've said since we haven't seen a public warning, but I hope they've given a warning in private at least. I would certainly never consider buying a Wheat Cue based on the tactless behavior I've seen in this thread.
Mr. Wheat defended himself by saying that he has a right to state his opinion on here, but the problem is that it's not stated as opinion, rather as fact. Well, where's the proof? The proof is that some nameless pro told you so? Well did he tell you that he's so sure that he would let you scream it on the internet? Why doesn't the pro let you give his or her name?
Maybe the mods don't have a problem with what you've said since we haven't seen a public warning, but I hope they've given a warning in private at least. I would certainly never consider buying a Wheat Cue based on the tactless behavior I've seen in this thread.