Allison Fisher Cutec Shaft Conspiracy!

BPG24 said:
Tiger's irons are forged in Japan by a very famous forging house and they are not available to the public. The Cameron Putter he uses is a 1 of 3 which he has had for most of his pro career but not all. He used to use a Newport Longneck TEI3 and before that he used a stock Ping Anser.

As for the Driver, all Tour equipment is out several months before we can get it and even when we do it isn't exactly the same thing. BTW, those "stock" shafts that you see the pros's hitting in their woods are not really stock at all. They are whatever shaft the pro likes best with graphics wrapped over them to look like the stock shaft

To get even farther off topic, the only smell in the air stronger than sweat at a major tennis event is the fresh paint jobs on the pros 'stock' tennis raquets. :)
 
gpeezy said:
There is a picture of Earl in the front of some magazine where he's holding a Cuetec with what is obviously a wood shaft.


It's a Cuetec shaft....

They made both the 'bleached' white shafts, (Which he don't like) and a regular looking 'natural' shaft.

I have three of his old Cuetecs right here. As well as one of his new M. Gulassey's.

Rick S.
 
Maniac said:
I oughta keep my mouth shut, but.... how can Allison's cue be "stock" if it is 56" long? Somebody somewhere has done some extra work on it to shorten it. I haven't seen any 56" Cuetec cues "out of the box". And.... what the heck does "out of the box" mean anyway?
Maniac


Eh... who knows... I was only quoting her website. :p
 
travis trotter said:
allison fisher still plays with cuetec cues but she has a new cue that she shoots with now it is a inlay cue from cuetec with a r360 non deflective shaft on it the length of the cue she uesed to shoot with was a 56 inch cue now she shoots with a 57 inch cuetec cue hope this reply helps thanks :)

A friend of mine took a lesson from her about a year ago. Allison told him her shaft had tons of deflection and that she had gotten used to it.

I can't imagine her suddenly switching to a low deflection shaft and continuing with the same success. But anything is possilble, especially with Allison.
 
bigshooter said:
Everyone says that Allison Fisher does not use a Cutec shaft on her cue.

I have read this for years on various forums and although I personally don't care one way or the other I am wondering is there any proof this is true or is it of internet rumors that's been repeated so many times everyone assumes it's the truth?

So exactly what is the implication anyway?

Does Cutec make her a custom shaft for the cue?
Is it a shaft made by another cue maker?

Anyone have anything other than speculation and guesses?



I answered this on another thread about her "new cue"

I can assure you that it's a customized shaft but becasue of pending contract restrictions she cannot nor will not divulge any info otherwise due to breach of contract !!!!

This can and will harm cuetec sales world wide if the public knew she wasn't a #1 ranked world champion using stock cuetec cue....

It's all about marketing image and results when sponsoring a top player and you can rest assured that they have their ass covered 100% and will NOT take any chances otherwise when it comes to sales and marketing effectiveness and inevitably cost Allison her career "monetarily wise" and replace her the next day with a new player and never lose a moments sleep over it !

And out of respect for the confidentiality of her customized cuetec her cuesmith should never be publically speaking about it when it comes to firsthand knowledge of her customized equipment due to possible reprocussions with her contract !



Sincerely, Eddie
 
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WheatCues said:
I answered this on another thread about her "new cue"

I can assure you that it's a customized shaft but becasue of pending contract restrictions she cannot nor will not divulge any info otherwise due to breach of contract !!!!

This can and will harm cuetec sales world wide if the public knew she wasn't a #1 ranked world champion using customized cuetec cue....

It's all about marketing image and results when sponsoring a top player and you can rest assured that they have their ass covered 100% and will NOT take any chances otherwise when it comes to sales and marketing effectiveness and inevitably cost Allison her career "monetarily wise" and replace her the next day with a new player and never lose a moments sleep over it !

And out of respect for the confidentiality of her customized cuetec her cuesmith should never be publically speaking about it when it comes to firsthand knowledge of her customized equipment due to possible reprocussions with her contract !



Sincerely, Eddie

1. You are WRONG sir.

2. You are publicly accusing Ms. Fisher of intentional breach of contract and therefore fraud.

Not a very good idea. What would be a good idea is for you to delete your post or make sure you are in possession of definitive proof of your allegation...which would be quite difficult, since it is not true.

Regards,
Jim
 
av84fun said:
1. You are WRONG sir.

2. You are publicly accusing Ms. Fisher of intentional breach of contract and therefore fraud.

Not a very good idea. What would be a good idea is for you to delete your post or make sure you are in possession of definitive proof of your allegation...which would be quite difficult, since it is not true.

Regards,
Jim

Dang, AV, you an attorney?
 
BPG24 said:
Tiger's irons are forged in Japan by a very famous forging house and they are not available to the public. The Cameron Putter he uses is a 1 of 3 which he has had for most of his pro career but not all. He used to use a Newport Longneck TEI3 and before that he used a stock Ping Anser.

As for the Driver, all Tour equipment is out several months before we can get it and even when we do it isn't exactly the same thing. BTW, those "stock" shafts that you see the pros's hitting in their woods are not really stock at all. They are whatever shaft the pro likes best with graphics wrapped over them to look like the stock shaft

Tiger has told Golf Digest what he had in his bag and to what specs before (cant remember which issue, I havent picked one up since I had to quit) and anybody that can work with shafts and the heads can make you an iron or driver thats set up just like Tiger's. There has been times he has used the SQ Driver when others couldnt get them and the same with the Nike One balls. I never said he shot with 'stock' shafts. Most pros will make some kind of change to their clubs regardless of what is done at the factory.

BTW you forgot about the Scotty Cameron Studio Stainless Newport 2 putter in which ANYONE can get. He has also used the same putter as a prototype as well. So he has used more putters than you think. The Nike One Platinum balls he uses can be bought anywhere as well, but only his have "Tiger" on them. Thats the only difference. The putter he used at the US Open was a Cameron prototype. For years he never even used a Nike Driver as he used the Titleist driver and putter (from Cameron of course). Its no secret what he uses or how he "changes" any of his clubs as he has told many magazines before what he uses.

On the shafts its well known Nike doesnt make great shafts so he doesnt use them if any at all. At the US Open he used a Mitsubishi Diamana Whiteboard Shaft on his Nike SQ Driver and True Temper Dynamic Gold X-100 shafts on his Nike Blade Irons.

But hey I'm not here to fuss about it. Its no secret what Tiger uses and will tell anyone as not just "anyone" can hit the same clubs he does.
 
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Earl's cue (at least several years ago)

Well I thought I'd check in on this one.

Flex said:
Well I sure would like to know what she is playing with. Just as I'd like to know what Earl plays with. Ditto for Effren, etc.

Flex


I have one of Earl's cues from when he used it to win the 2002 WPA World Nine-ball Championship (men's division) . I purchased it in an auction directly from him in Tampa at one of the wheel chair tournaments he participated in. It is definitely a stock Cuetec cue.

Cheers,
Karin
 
travis trotter said:
allison fisher still plays with cuetec cues but she has a new cue that she shoots with now it is a inlay cue from cuetec with a r360 non deflective shaft

So now the shafts have went from 'LESS DEFLECTION' to 'NO DEFLECTION'.

WoW ...:rolleyes:
 
Facts

I thought about writing a comment directly to Eddie Wheat but his information is so ridiculous that I simply refuse to waste time on it. He appears to making a name for himself on his own, and Allison doesn't even know who he is.

Here is the complete history on Allison's cues since her contract with Cuetec began over 14 years ago. It is 100% reliable information!

Her first cue was a green 58" Earl Strickland model, with a stock SST shaft, which she played with for about a year. Cuetec then developed a singular line of cue for Allison -- a burgundy colored cue, also 58", with a stock SST shaft that she played with for 2-3 years. Two more cues were later added to the line -- a teal cue, which she never played with, and a white cue, which is probably the one many of you are familiar with. It also had a stock SST. She played with the same SST shaft and butt for over 10 years, only replacing ferrules and tips when needed. This cue was only modified in length, when she had 2" taken off the butt piece making it 56".

Toward the end of 2007, Allison wanted to change to the new Cuetec inlayed cue and requested they develop a new cue for her signature line. She tried a couple of the new 56" inlayed designs with the new low-deflection R360 shaft , but didn't feel completely comfortable with the result. Then, while attending the 2007 BCA Tradeshow in Vegas, she picked up a sample 58" inlayed cue (butt only) from the Cuetec booth, which generally orders with a Python shaft, and decided to take it home to experiment.

Cuetec provided her three stock R360 shafts to test with the new butt. Originally, Allison wasn't completely satisfied with the hit. I asked her about this and she said, "Looking back, I believe I wasn't ready for the change and loved the familiarity of the white cue. It was a big step to give up 10 years of consistency and success."

Determined to give it more consideration and thinking it might be the extra length, Allison asked Cuetec to supply her with a few 56" butts to test. After hitting with these cues off-and-on for a few days, she picked up the original sample 58" inlayed cue and "something clicked." Allison still feels that "a 56" cue is a better length but the weight and balance of this particular cue felt right." Not to say she won't consider modifying the length in the future.

As many of you know, Allison has started the 2008 WPBA season winning two of three events and is delighted with the cue and R360 shaft. She says, "After using an SST shaft for over 13 years, I recently switched to the new R360 shaft and it's making a big difference to my game and confidence. The use of sidespin is much more accurate, as I no longer have to compensate for deflection."

There is no question Allison has experimented (in practice) with many different shafts and tips; but she always went back to her original SST with a medium Moori tip, although she played most of the 2007 season with a Snyper tip. Regardless, Allison has always played with a stock/unmodified Cuetec shaft in every pool competition.

Hopefully this will clear up all the misconceptions. It's always best to go to the source if you want to know the truth. -- afteam@allisonfisher.com.
 
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I will see her in Winder, GA. this weekend at Poppa Murphy's new place and I will get to the bottom of this damnitt!!! :D

Southpaw
 
Southpaw said:
I will see her in Winder, GA. this weekend at Poppa Murphy's new place and I will get to the bottom of this damnitt!!! :D

Southpaw

Didn't you notice Kristi's post? Her thorough and obviously well informed commets ARE the bottom of the matter.

Regards,
Jim
 
karinann said:
Well I thought I'd check in on this one.




I have one of Earl's cues from when he used it to win the 2002 WPA World Nine-ball Championship (men's division) . I purchased it in an auction directly from him in Tampa at one of the wheel chair tournaments he participated in. It is definitely a stock Cuetec cue.

Cheers,
Karin

Thanks, Karin.

Actually, I'd really like to know what he plays with now, unconstrained by any sponsorship requirements.

Have you heard anything about his current cue or cues?

Flex
 
av84fun said:
Didn't you notice Kristi's post? Her thorough and obviously well informed commets ARE the bottom of the matter.

Regards,
Jim

I guess Ive got a little Missouri in me...you have to "show me".

Southpaw
 
av84fun said:
1. You are WRONG sir.

2. You are publicly accusing Ms. Fisher of intentional breach of contract and therefore fraud.

Not a very good idea. What would be a good idea is for you to delete your post or make sure you are in possession of definitive proof of your allegation...which would be quite difficult, since it is not true.

Regards,
Jim


You have obviously misread my post...

No one is frauding anybody !!!!

I do NOT have firsthand knowledge... but I do associate with fellow professional players who would not disagree with my statement about her cue being customized !!!

I also stated that confindential info. should not be discussed by her personal cuesmith !

Although, I can appreciate your concern and you have made yourself very clear that you do NOT believe it's a "stock" cuetec and you are obviously entitled to your opinion !!!

And as far as your request on having this post deleted is ridiculous, I have not put Allison in anykind of harms way with her contract... RELAX !

I'm NOT her cuesmith and I have ZERO involvement with her !



- Eddie Wheat
 
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Flex said:
Thanks, Karin.

Actually, I'd really like to know what he plays with now, unconstrained by any sponsorship requirements.

Have you heard anything about his current cue or cues?

Flex


He's currently using a Mike Gulyassy...

I just got one from him while he was staying here in Az. with me during the Az Shootout Tourny-Pool School.

Nice, solid hitting stick!
 
Having shot with a cuetec before I gotta say that Allison is even more of a champion that her record shows because she accomplished it all while playing with a cuetec. Shes fantastic imo and I bet she could run racks with a bamboo plant she ripped out the ground and slapped a leather tip on.
 
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