Alternative to tighter pockets
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How many women have won the US Open in 9ball?
saying they exist but dont win tournaments is every amateurs dream.
Siming is in the situation as SVB
A lot of talent but in terms of peer development. They are both killers.
SVB has been Team Mosconi often but his lack of ability to develop other players is a weakness.
Not sure about Siming and her efforts with developing pros.
I was in my local room one Friday night, probably around 9 or 10. I was playing a money game and was wrapped up pretty intensely in it. All of a sudden, the lights go off, then come back on dim, then the dance music started, then the strobe light came on. Turns out they were trying something new to draw in the younger crowd. I can't believe someone thought that was a good idea for a pool room. I might have danced a bit but I was down and in a bad mood.
As we saw at the last Mosconi Cup, if the equipment is set up as tough as befits the occasion, nine ball is plenty difficult enough for even the most elite players in the world. I wouldn't change anything.
Allowing women to break from diamond five instead of diamond six would be OK by me.
Allowing women to break from diamond five instead of diamond six would be OK by me.
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I think what helps to make a player elite is self focus.
I believe elite players can be force multipliers, where some skills can be transferred to others.
Look at what happen Mosconi Cup, (referred to Team USA and its failure to be competitive) maybe a woman should coach Team USA.
Female players have been more marketable to mainstream audiences. Why not teach the boys how to promote the sport properly next year?
If a Male and a Female are of a similar skill they don't need a handicap, they would be of similar skill. There is no rating for women and another for men, they both play the same game and are rated on the same table.
A heavier or lighter cueball is a bad idea, it changes the physics of how the ball reacts on every shot. All balls need to be of same size and weight.
Men competing in heels and a lighter cue are ah.. "interesting" ideas. Maybe a wig and fake boobs would need to be added also.
One of the things I always tell people on the forums, don't post while high or drunk, it ends up badly.
What I'm the faaak are you trying to say?
"A lot of talent but in terms of peer development. They are both killers."
Your premise was how to make the game harder and now you are taking about pro's skills in development of others?
Are you thick?
If you owned a store, would you seek out ways to lower your profits? It makes 0- infact, it makes NEGATIVE- sense to be in the business of bargaining against one's self.
Which is perfect for 'how to make the game harder'...everybody STFU and let the others figure it out for themselves.
The game would be so much better if we could just add some difficulty. I suggest pros take a shot, do a shot, and spin three times in a circle.
SVB can play but he can't teach. That is the point. Maybe SVB should try to coaching, if he can get players near his standard on the break that would be a huge edge for American players on the international stage. His impact on other top players is not as great as his achievements from winning.
I was watching Niels train with Alex on social media this morning. I don't think SVB has ever given a recommendation on which players to get lessons from or checkout.
Male American players show no interest in developing pool to the mainstream.
In terms of current outlook for American pool, the best hope might be on the women's side.
Back when WPBA was on ESPN, they were the ambassadors and did a great job.
Today having a mullet is the most important thing to say at a pre match interview.
that wouldn't be ok by me. the same rules should always apply in a tournament. if that means no female participation, too bad, but it's better than some participants getting advantages that would be unfair to the others.
regarding the girls ability to break, i think siming breaks way better than most female players, which makes me believe she has practiced the break more diligently than the other girls have. in general terms, there may be a gender difference in muscle fibre activation leading to less explosive power (i'm no expert in the matter, so i may be talking gibberish) but i'm not convinced that girls cannot become better breakers than they are. we know how break practice makes a difference for male players, just look at tyler styer.
Last weekend I had the opportunity to play on an old house table. The cloth was slow felt like the kind you used to make construction projects for school, the the pockets were absolute buckets. You really had to slam the break to get the balls open, and I even had to whip out the old slip stroke in order to get whitey around the table. It was so much fun!
I started playing in the late 90’s/early 2000s when the standardization to was Simonis was almost complete, but you would still find slow cloth on the odd table and I got a taste back then. I can see how the game was different back in the day; you needed to have a powerful, athletic break, you could kill and hold the CB for position when playing 14.1, and you really needed a big and accurate stroke in order to excel in 9 ball. It was ok to have big pockets because there was a real challenge in trying to stroke well back on those conditions.
I know Simonis took over the world and I have it on my home table, but looking back I’m not sure if fast cloth took pool in the right direction. Pockets got tighter in order to combat the quick cloth, but I don’t think that improved the direction either.
There was a crossroads where we moved to these conditions, and I would have liked to see an alternate reality where things stayed with big pockets and slow cloth as an alternative. The pool landscape would be vastly different to what we have “evolved” to today.
I started playing in the late 90’s/early 2000s when the standardization to was Simonis was almost complete, but you would still find slow cloth on the odd table and I got a taste back then. I can see how the game was different back in the day; you needed to have a powerful, athletic break, you could kill and hold the CB for position when playing 14.1, and you really needed a big and accurate stroke in order to excel in 9 ball. It was ok to have big pockets because there was a real challenge in trying to stroke well back on those conditions.
I know Simonis took over the world and I have it on my home table, but looking back I’m not sure if fast cloth took pool in the right direction. Pockets got tighter in order to combat the quick cloth, but I don’t think that improved the direction either.
There was a crossroads where we moved to these conditions, and I would have liked to see an alternate reality where things stayed with big pockets and slow cloth as an alternative. The pool landscape would be vastly different to what we have “evolved” to today.
Please come back down to earth or go farther away.
What do you think happens when businesses begin to ignore their core competencies?
As a lot, pros aren't teachers. Pros arent public relations educated.
If you can't learn something from svb you shouldn't be shooting pool
That eats worse than a trophy!
are you following any pro pool players on social media?
Thats they only thing they have to promote.
SVB is an ice fisher
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I am for progress in American pool
SVB break is valuable but he might be an exception
No one can replicate his break power.
Yup, I played on those tables too. IMHO, today's conditions are what allow women to compete. You very seldom need to power stroke a ball on today's tables.
No.
What tangible benefit to either party does that result in?