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am i being a dousche
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I did not realize I was specifically defending his position. In his first post, I didn't see him actually say anywhere that there was in fact a forfeit, or that he was seeking one. I thought he was just venting that he was upset the guy didn't bother to call ahead and just cancel. This was the only thing I was defending.
Here is how they do it in northeast MA, which is all I can speak on from experience: Every team gets paperwork sent to the team captains house (or whatever address the team captain wishes it to be sent to). Thus each team captain is responsible for his or her own paperwork. This paperwork contains the name of the opposing bar and every player's name on the opposing team. *Generally* the first week's paperwork includes a list of all the bars and their phone numbers (which of course is a pretty easy thing to obtain if you really want to), as well as the captains and co captains names and phone numbers. While I admit that getting this info out the first week is not a 100% success rate, it really isn't very hard to get the info if you try. So in your area, with out a roster, how would you even know where to go the first week? There must be *some* way of notifying you what bar you will be playing at? If you know this, these days, you can have the bar's number in about 20 seconds. Also, since we generally play the same teams session after session, and I save any important paperwork with numbers or addresses or whatever, it would be fairly easy for me to look back and get the phone number I needed. Plus, I would always be able to call the league office. i have several league office people's cell #'s. I would call a division rep if necessary. People call me all the time to get in contact with another team, and 9 times out of ten I can help them. Likewise, sometimes we just don't have the phone number. However, if they called me and explained their situation, they covered their bases. If the opposing team then calls me, I can clear the situation right up. We should really take advantage of the resources we have. If we don't know what they are, it is wise to find out, especially as a team captain.
We know from another thread that FastEddie427 just had to rebuild his team from scratch , perhaps there is even some confusion on the opponents part over which team is his . . . .
You KNOW we're only hearing one side of this story . . . . .
This I know nothing about. I suppose that really has little to do with the facts he presented, though may indicate that the facts were presented in a one sided fashion. I don't know, and can't speculate without knowing the guy.
So aside from the forfeit issue, which like I said I really wasn't addressing, do you personally think the other captain should have cancelled or at least called FASTEDDIE427 before to let him know of the impending problem? Would you have in his place? Personally I would have. That is pretty much my whole stance right there.
KMRUNOUT
continued whining will not aid your case . . . .
Those are just more details that you wait until now to reveal . I said I might be mistaken , and I'm man enough to admit that I was - about that .
Now it's your turn to admit that you're in the wrong !
Sorry , FastEddie427 , but you agreed to play by the leagues rules , and your local bylaws REQUIRE a makeup match . Forfeits MAY NOT be given or received in the 1st two weeks of session .
You want those win points , ya gotta earn 'em . . . .
Those are just more details that you wait until now to reveal . I said I might be mistaken , and I'm man enough to admit that I was - about that .
Now it's your turn to admit that you're in the wrong !
Sorry , FastEddie427 , but you agreed to play by the leagues rules , and your local bylaws REQUIRE a makeup match . Forfeits MAY NOT be given or received in the 1st two weeks of session .
You want those win points , ya gotta earn 'em . . . .
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For what it's worth...
I did not read the entire thread, nor do I choose to.
Even though captains may not have each other's phone numbers, I'm sure each of them has at least the LO's number.
It doesn't matter to me what league this took place in.
It doesn't matter if there's any animosity between captains.
It's even possible that the captain of the team without enough players, did not KNOW that his other players were not coming. Maybe his own teammates never bothered to call him. I don't know if that's the case or not, but it doesn't matter.
What DOES matter is this :
What if (God forbid, and I don't even like to think about this sort of stuff) someone got into a serious accident, or even killed, on thier way to a match that was not going to take place that night ?
I did not read the entire thread, nor do I choose to.
Even though captains may not have each other's phone numbers, I'm sure each of them has at least the LO's number.
It doesn't matter to me what league this took place in.
It doesn't matter if there's any animosity between captains.
It's even possible that the captain of the team without enough players, did not KNOW that his other players were not coming. Maybe his own teammates never bothered to call him. I don't know if that's the case or not, but it doesn't matter.
What DOES matter is this :
What if (God forbid, and I don't even like to think about this sort of stuff) someone got into a serious accident, or even killed, on thier way to a match that was not going to take place that night ?
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Actually you are dead wrong. This is nowhere near the origional point I was trying to make. I didn't mention these by laws because they are not relevant to this discussion.
Read km runouts post you might learn what the thread is about
Read km runouts post you might learn what the thread is about
This bylaw only means thew team cannot forfit. Individule matches however are perfectly within the rules.
Swish. Thanks for playing. Move to a house not under powerlines
Swish. Thanks for playing. Move to a house not under powerlines
Those are just more details that you wait until now to reveal . I said I might be mistaken , and I'm man enough to admit that I was - about that .
Now it's your turn to admit that you're in the wrong !
Sorry , FastEddie427 , but you agreed to play by the leagues rules , and your local bylaws REQUIRE a makeup match . Forfeits MAY NOT be given or received in the 1st two weeks of session .
You want those win points , ya gotta earn 'em . . . .
The bottom line is the other team was being inconsiderate by not letting the OP, or the LO, or the bar where the match was going to be played know that they weren't going to be there.
The weather was awful. No one should drive for a pool match if they aren't comfortable doing so. But the telephones never stopped working, right?
Forfeits or make-up matches, whatever. That could be dealt with, if anyone knew about it! Make the damned phone call. So other people might not have to drive in the crappy weather....since it was too bad for some of the players.
The weather was awful. No one should drive for a pool match if they aren't comfortable doing so. But the telephones never stopped working, right?
Forfeits or make-up matches, whatever. That could be dealt with, if anyone knew about it! Make the damned phone call. So other people might not have to drive in the crappy weather....since it was too bad for some of the players.
Rules
I agree the rules are the rules for a reason. BTW, did you forget your English teacher's rules for a paragraph? Please hit the Enter key a couple of times after 4 or 5 sentences, it is just the courteous thing to do.
I agree the rules are the rules for a reason. BTW, did you forget your English teacher's rules for a paragraph? Please hit the Enter key a couple of times after 4 or 5 sentences, it is just the courteous thing to do.
DOOOOOOuche
Yes you are a Douche,
but in your defense it sounds like you had a complete break down in communication with the other team. That is unfortunate. Good luck and I hope you can keep it fun and competitive in the future.
Yes you are a Douche,
but in your defense it sounds like you had a complete break down in communication with the other team. That is unfortunate. Good luck and I hope you can keep it fun and competitive in the future.
The team that we were suppose to play last week were a no show, no call. as a matter of fact they didn't even answer their phones. Last night we were told they didn't have a full team that could show up so they just skipped it. Its that lack of courtesy that deserves the forfeit. That is why the rules are there and I feel the OP was right in calling the forfeit.
