Am i wrong????????????

You are observing this back and forth among two groups of people and you are attributing everything that happens as something that I engage in and encourage. That is not accurate. Over the last month I was home for a few weeks and commented more than normal. Other than that, I don't engage the same retreads over and over, except maybe to try and bum some milano cookies. :wink:

On the other hand, what I do here and what I find interesting is taking a close look at new videos that come out from Stan or Gerry or anybody. As an example, I asked Gerry if he could follow up on his first video and he did. I was planning some comments but things got so ridiculous I gave up. Score one for them, I guess. I think this kind of analysis is useful and I have gotten likes and positive pm's from various people. Again, I can't control how a few cranks respond to it other than to ignore them as much as possible, unless they are actually engaging in a constructive way, even if to show flaws in my thoughts. That kind of discussion rarely happens.

I appreciate your frustration. If you don't think I'm qualified to have an opinion on how CTE worked for me then put me along with PJ, Lou, Joey, Spider, Low and cookie on ignore and maybe you'll be happier. If a guy posts a thread like "Question about CTE" just don't click on it and then you'll be doubly safe.

dan
if you read my posts above i did not mention anyone by name until i answered you directly after you posted to me
if you felt singled out maybe you have a guilty conscious (conjecture on my part )
its just the cte people dont usually go into a non cte threads unless cte is mentioned
when a newbie asks about this or that perception or this or that sweep
thats his question
he didnt ask why in your opinion its flawed and wont work
everyone is qualified to have an opinion
like you know what everyone has one
just ask the question "how is trump doing?"
i think the contentiousness to the answers would make the cte battle look like a mild disagreement....:eek::grin-square:
so for everyone that has an opinion i dont need to put on ignore. and you are entitled to your opinion
but it really gets old to see the same "discussions/ opinions " turn into flame wars over the same thing..and both sides play a role.
since there doesnt seem there will ever be an understanding to leave each other alone and thats too bad
maybe
the easiest thing would be for the non believers/skeptics would be to have a thread or sticky along the lines here are my opinions /reasons for why cte doesnt work or however you want to phrase/title it
cte people could not do a rebuttal in your thread.
similarly the cte people could have a thread/sticky where they could state why it works and their reasons to refute the non believers claims
the non beleivers could not post in that thread
this way
each side presents its case without interference and anyone could read both sides and come to their own conclusion
that would obviate the need for the same fights happening over and over
if both sides would then would not interfere with each other in threads regarding one system or the other.
i will by flying to Jerusalem tomorrow to make peace.......:grin:
 
Last edited:
dan
if you read my posts above i did not mention anyone by name until i answered you directly after you posted to me
if you felt singled out maybe you have a guilty conscious (conjecture on my part )
its just the cte people dont usually go into a non cte threads unless cte is mentioned
when a newbie asks about this or that perception or this or that sweep
thats his question
he didnt ask why in your opinion its flawed and wont work
everyone is qualified to have an opinion
like you know what everyone has one
just ask the question "how is trump doing?"
i think the contentiousness to the answers would make the cte battle look like a mild disagreement....:eek::grin-square:
so for everyone that has an opinion i dont need to put on ignore. and you are entitled to your opinion
but it really gets old to see the same "discussions/ opinions " turn into flame wars over the same thing..and both sides play a role.
since there doesnt seem there will ever be an understanding to leave each other alone and thats too bad
maybe
the easiest thing would be for the non believers/skeptics would be to have a thread or sticky along the lines here are my opinions /reasons for why cte doesnt work or however you want to phrase/title it
cte people could not do a rebuttal in your thread.
similarly the cte people could have a thread/sticky where they could state why it works and their reasons to refute the non believers claims
the non beleivers could not post in that thread
this way
each side presents its case without interference and anyone could read both sides and come to their own conclusion
that would obviate the need for the same fights happening over and over
if both sides would then would not interfere with each other in threads regarding one system or the other.
i will by flying to Jerusalem tomorrow to make peace.......:grin:

Larry, this thread below is the first one listed in the Aiming Archives right here on AZ.
It was in November of 2010 and 71 PAGES!. Eventually CLOSED for further posts.

Anybody can draw it back up so I'm not doing something that is breaking the rules.
If it was completely off limits it should have and would have been deleted by Admin.

Make note of the ANTI-CTE posters. They haven't changed nor has the direction of the negative posts. Same crap for 10 years like a broken record. Some new posters have joined the ranks since then but it's still the same worn out stale attacks.
Nothing changes. Does it even make sense for grown educated men to be doing this?

https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=208952
 
Larry, this thread below is the first one listed in the Aiming Archives right here on AZ.
It was in November of 2010 and 71 PAGES!. Eventually CLOSED for further posts.
Anybody can draw it back up so I'm not doing something that is breaking the rules.
If it was completely off limits it should have and would have been deleted by Admin.
Make note of the ANTI-CTE posters. They haven't changed nor has the direction of the negative posts. Same crap for 10 years like a broken record. Some new posters have joined the ranks since then but it's still the same worn out stale attacks.
Nothing changes. Does it even make sense for grown educated men to be doing this?
https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=208952
Good work, SpiderMan.
This post of yours is certainly a calm, reasonable one, and falls into what I think is "civil discussion".
Note my addition in blue to your post. As you and I have discussed many times, there is a great difference between "education" and "formal schooling".
Keep on truckin' :thumbup:
Regards.
P.L.
 
......its just the cte people dont usually go into a non cte threads unless cte is mentioned

........

There's always one or two that can't resist coming into non cte threads to post something like, "This is gobbledygook! All you need is 15, 30, 45". Or....."You don't even use your system. If it's so good, why not use it on every shot?" Or one might come in with a derogatory comment like this one posted by Low....

"Some of those guys are so full of themselves with ego it is almost nauseous. One of them actually posted in here once (typical lying know-it-all) that he'd been a "former center fielder" in baseball. A shrimp like him in the outfield would be comparable to a runt like me racing high speed motorcycles for the Ca$h around an oval track. Didn't happen and never will happen."


Being accused of lying by someone who has actually been proven a liar is laughable. And it should be ignored, like general ignorance is typically ignored or overlooked. But it's hard to ignore someone who is always trying to push you down to make themselves or somebody else look better. But I'm getting good at it, and I don't even have to use the "ignore" option here to do it for me. Using that option doesn't help with personal growth. In the real world you just can't click an ignore button when you're dealing with obnoxious or rude people. You have to learn how to handle them, how to tolerate them or how to ignore them. I'm getting better at that.:grin:
 
Last edited:
Being accused of lying by someone who has actually been proven a liar is laughable. And it should be ignored, like general ignorance is typically ignored or overlooked. But it's hard to ignore someone who is always trying to push you down to make themselves or somebody else look better.

You do know it works the same way for CTE haters and antagonists, right? They're trying to push people down to make themselves or somebody else look better. I know you aren't describing them but you certainly could be because it fits.

But I'm getting good at it, and I don't even have to use the "ignore" option here to do it for me. Using that option doesn't help with personal growth.

Personal growth has nothing to do with the "ignore" function. The ignore option is so one doesn't hear or see the same broken record over, and over, over that's been played for 22 years and by the same individuals. It isn't a fail safe method for not getting banned, but it certainly helps not to.


In the real world you just can't click an ignore button when you're dealing with obnoxious or rude people. You have to learn how to handle them, how to tolerate them or how to IGNORE them.

To IGNORE someone in person or the click of a button is still IGNORE. One you walk away and the other you click a button. Less energy to click a button. What difference does it make?
 
Last edited:
Larry, this thread below is the first one listed in the Aiming Archives right here on AZ.
It was in November of 2010 and 71 PAGES!. Eventually CLOSED for further posts.

Anybody can draw it back up so I'm not doing something that is breaking the rules.
If it was completely off limits it should have and would have been deleted by Admin.

Make note of the ANTI-CTE posters. They haven't changed nor has the direction of the negative posts. Same crap for 10 years like a broken record. Some new posters have joined the ranks since then but it's still the same worn out stale attacks.
Nothing changes. Does it even make sense for grown educated men to be doing this?

https://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=208952

Damn, I read through the first 7 or 8 pages and everything was friendly until the whole sharing and copyright argument got underway. And I quit reading when JB incorrectly described the "Fair Use" doctrine. He was just so wrong I felt like nothing else was worth reading. Lol.

It is not considered "Fair Use" if the shared material will negatively affect the market value of the product. In other words, you can pass a novel or music CD around to a few friends, but if you make that novel or CD available to the general public through social media, or by handing out copies on a street corner, you are undermining the market value of the work, which is illegal. In such cases, the author or artist of the work, the one who owns the copyright, can take you to court and recoup any projected loss of sales/profit due to you circumventing the sale of their work.
 
Last edited:
To IGNORE someone in person or the click of a button is still IGNORE. One you walk away and the other you click a button. Less energy to click a button. What difference does it make?

Lol. In person you might have to stand there and listen to someone belittle your beliefs or your friends. You have to decide whether or not it's worth the argument of speaking up in defense of your beliefs or your friends. It takes self control, will power, knowing when to bite your tongue and just let this person's mouth run until they're satisfied. Here, with a simple ignore feature, you don't have to practice or use such self control, which is a great tool for those who have a low EQ. That's the difference.
 
Lol. In person you might have to stand there and listen to someone belittle your beliefs or your friends. You have to decide whether or not it's worth the argument of speaking up in defense of your beliefs or your friends. It takes self control, will power, knowing when to bite your tongue and just let this person's mouth run until they're satisfied. Here, with a simple ignore feature, you don't have to practice or use such self control, which is a great tool for those who have a low EQ. That's the difference.

The difference is it may happen occasionally in person, not every friggin' day week in and week out...month in and month out...year in and year out like it does here.

Self control goes down the tubes for all of us because regardless of the side one is on, EVERYONE has been banned. EVERYONE of the main players!

(except for you) Mr. Perfect. :D
 
The difference is it may happen occasionally in person, not every friggin' day week in and week out...month in and month out...year in and year out like it does here.

Self control goes down the tubes for all of us because regardless of the side one is on, EVERYONE has been banned. EVERYONE of the main players!

(except for you) Mr. Perfect. :D

In bold....good point. It would be tough to stand still and tolerate somebody belittling you in person everyday. And I wasn't thinking so much talking about face to face, but more like standing in a crowd or group of people where one person is making snide remarks that gets under your skin. In person, it's very rare to have somebody talking crap to your face unless they have a friend or two standing with them. That's what it's like here. It's not a face to face setting, but a group setting.

Anyway, good point.
 
Looks like i may have to delay my trip to jerusalem ...:cool:
More work to do here LOL
I wonder why i bother to try to make peace
Carry on men
My popcorn is ready from the micro wave
:D
 
Looks like i may have to delay my trip to jerusalem ...:cool:
More work to do here LOL
I wonder why i bother to try to make peace
Carry on men
My popcorn is ready from the micro wave
:D

My only issue with this thread is you attributing a kind of moral equivalence to both sides. Clearly, there are about 2 guys who are the only ones personally insulting everybody else. Even Mike has recognized that. Again, if I choose to share my personal experience with someone who is seeing the same problems I found then it isn't my problem if one or two guys simply can't abide a different opinion.

I was going to use the Israel analogy but you beat me to it. You'll probably have better luck over there!
 
In bold....good point. It would be tough to stand still and tolerate somebody belittling you in person everyday. And I wasn't thinking so much talking about face to face, but more like standing in a crowd or group of people where one person is making snide remarks that gets under your skin. In person, it's very rare to have somebody talking crap to your face unless they have a friend or two standing with them. That's what it's like here. It's not a face to face setting, but a group setting.

Anyway, good point.

Here's a case in point. This is WHAT is seen when someone is on IGNORE if they post.

Dan White
This message is hidden because Dan White is on your ignore list.

He obviously posted after your post or mine, I don't know which. And I could care LESS. I don't see it...I can't read it...he's GONE.

I could give a rats ass what he has to say because it's all worthless to begin with.

If I did read it and make a post back, how long do you think it would take him to report it to Mike? Maybe you would say he wouldn't and he might say the same thing.

BULLSHIT! Having something stick to get banned IS the END GAME. Then there's no opposition to anything posted by the survivor.
 
Here's a case in point. This is WHAT is seen when someone is on IGNORE if they post.

Dan White
This message is hidden because Dan White is on your ignore list.

He obviously posted after your post or mine, I don't know which. And I could care LESS. I don't see it...I can't read it...he's GONE.

I could give a rats ass what he has to say because it's all worthless to begin with.

If I did read it and make a post back, how long do you think it would take him to report it to Mike? Maybe you would say he wouldn't and he might say the same thing.

BULLSHIT! Having something stick to get banned IS the END GAME. Then there's no opposition to anything posted by the survivor.

I understand completely. But I'm practicing self control, strengthening my level of tolerance for ignorance, building a stronger EQ (emotional intelligence), all by not using the ignore fearure. Now everytime I read a cynically derogative post from Low500 it becomes increasingly more obvious just how obsessed and desperate that cat really is. His posts are getting easier and easier to read. I used to feel like I had to respond, but anymore I just smile and brush it off.
 
I understand completely. But I'm practicing self control, strengthening my level of tolerance for ignorance, building a stronger EQ (emotional intelligence), all by not using the ignore fearure. Now everytime I read a cynically derogative post from Low500 it becomes increasingly more obvious just how obsessed and desperate that cat really is. His posts are getting easier and easier to read. I used to feel like I had to respond, but anymore I just smile and brush it off.

Among all the other things you've been or done in life, I'm sure preparing for the priesthood (at least an altar boy) was one of them. How about a Buddhist monk?

Ohhhmmmm...Ohhhmmmmm...Ohhhmmmm…

(actually, I think he really gets under your skin) LOL
 
Among all the other things you've been or done in life, I'm sure preparing for the priesthood (at least an altar boy) was one of them. How about a Buddhist monk?

Ohhhmmmm...Ohhhmmmmm...Ohhhmmmm…

(actually, I think he really gets under your skin) LOL


Nope, never had any desire to be anything in the church. Was forced to go as a kid, as most kids are. Fact is, when it comes to religion, most of our beliefs fall in line with whatever our parents believe or believed. Children are indoctrinated into religion. If you're born to a Christian family, your a Christian. If you're born to an Islamic family, your a Muslim. And so on....

And yes, Low certainly gets under my skin. But I think of something my old grandpa Bill told me once when I got in a fight at the ball field. I think I was about 16 or 17 then. He was the umpire and he booted both of us out of the game. The guy I got in a fight with was the catcher for the other team. After a swing and a miss, strike 3, the catcher said "you suck", and then I pushed him and he pulled his mask off and glove off and came at me. Later, after the game, my grandpa asked why I shoved that guy. I told him I was mad, that after striking out I heard him say "you suck". Grandpa laughed, then he asked, "Do you?" I said no. Then he said, okay...so who cares what he thinks if it's not true...everybody out there already knows the truth because they can see it.

Lately there's been a lot of good stuff on Facebook about my grandpa, about the years he dedicated himself to organizing a baseball league for young kids and teenagers. So with all the good Facebook posts I've been seeing about him lately, I guess I've decided to finally start following his advice.
 
Last edited:
Lately there's been a lot of food stuff on Facebook about my grandpa, about the years he dedicated to himself to organizing a baseball league for young kids and teenagers. So with all the good Facebook posts I've been seeing about him lately, I guess I've decided to finally start following his advice.

Where does he live? If he makes super grilled hot dogs, hamburgers, and ribs I'd like to try some out.
 
Where does he live? If he makes super grilled hot dogs, hamburgers, and ribs I'd like to try some out.

Lmao! Yes, I fixed that typo. :embarrassed2:

He and grandma used to make the best snow cone syrup!! And the concession stand was an old railroad caboose. Good times.
 
Back
Top