Amazing pool shots from Efren Reyes
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Yea i was like WOW when i seen it awhile ago and showed my girlfriend and shes like so what?? I know you can do that. she calls me "magical trevor" so she says you're magical trevor .. you can do that.. here set it up and do it.. and sure enough i did it.
But in a game would i see that? not yet..
But in a game would i see that? not yet..
Neil said:
You shoot it with top left, not top right. Top outside will get you more curve action and will slow down the ball after it curves and hits the rail.
DOn't forget the 23 oz $15 cue.gopi-1 said:
It was extreme high. Like has been said, the hard part is not the get the spin, but to control it.
JohnPT said:
Is that what it was called, John? Because that was incredibly 2 o'clock, with 1 1/2 English, hitting it with hard - very hard stroke. That's Magician Bata for ya!
Actually I think the last pushout and the shot on the 2 was the greatest one here. Anybody notices how he analyzes a table when he has a tricky layout?
Other players often walk around the table, measuring up shots with their cue - you can most of the time read their thougths. This guy just stands there, and looks at the table and the layout. He is very good in camouflaging his intentions, which means that after a push-out, as his opponent, you have to figure out all the alternatives by yourself.
I was so lucky that I got to play him in one-pocket, and I must admit that this is the first time my opponent have given me a real, painful headache! There were just too many catastrophic scenarious going through my mind after some of his safeties. I was mentally exhausted after playing him.
Other players often walk around the table, measuring up shots with their cue - you can most of the time read their thougths. This guy just stands there, and looks at the table and the layout. He is very good in camouflaging his intentions, which means that after a push-out, as his opponent, you have to figure out all the alternatives by yourself.
I was so lucky that I got to play him in one-pocket, and I must admit that this is the first time my opponent have given me a real, painful headache! There were just too many catastrophic scenarious going through my mind after some of his safeties. I was mentally exhausted after playing him.
cuetechasaurus said:
Absolutely correct.
In greater detail, so the 2:00 folks will realize this is a very different shot than the one they're talking about:
High-right will not get the pronounced curve, because when the CB hits the first rail, the spin pushes it to the viewer's left, and the follow doesn't have the chance to achieve that masse effect. Because the right english pushes it to our left, and the follow is acting to our left (the direction Efren shot it), the follow will speed up the CB a lot, and the running english will carry it way uptable off the second rail, unless you hit it very softly, which Efren clearly does not.
With high left, the left spin causes the CB to come off the first rail heading due North, or maybe even slightly to the viewer's right, but the follow is still on the ball, still spinning directly away from where Efren stands, and the follow overpowers the ball direction, curving it back in toward the side rail. That's why you see the pronounced curve, and that why it loses so much speed (direction off the rail and top-spin working against each other, not with each other). That's the only way to hit it this hard and still float delicately into position the way he did.
Good catch, cuetechasaurus.
-Andrew
Neil said:
I respectfully disagree. It is not sidespin that takes the cueball over to the side cushion, but force follow. This is not a masse shot.
I also disagree with those who claim that Efren is using left English. It is the speed with which he hits the cueball that widens the angle off the six, and consequently off the bottom cushion, not left English. Left English on the cueball would simply complicate the shot unnecessarily. It is possible to execute the shot with just a hair of right English, though, to get the cueball to come off of the side cushion at the right angle to get above the 7, but I don't think Efren uses any on this shot because the angle the cueball takes going into the side cushion is the same as it takes coming out above the 7 (in fact, it looks like his cueball might have brushed the top side of the 7 slightly as it came out).
Again the great difficulty in executing the shot is not in getting the cueball to force follow, but in getting the force follow to take at just the right moment so that the cueball then makes it to the side cushion and around the 7 for shape.