American Snooker!

Well, back when this was still America... many big rooms in large cities, esp in the Far Northern Reaches,
had 12 ft American Snooker tables. You think potting on an English or Canadian 12 footer is difficult.
The American tables with their 10% bigger balls and smaller pockets - and more importantly,
as mentioned, severely rounded pocket openings were MUCH more demanding.

Dale

I played a table similar to what you describe at nice golf club (as guest I can't afford it sadly). The balls were standard but the pockets were incredibly tight, it was a lot of fun. Really emphasized good shot selection, smart safety play and tight position play. Definitely trickier than anything I've played on.
 
I think we should jump on the Snooker Band Wagon with our European Cousins and we should have.....American Snooker.

2 1/4 in balls played on 9ft Tables. Same everything but different tables.

What do you think?

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My son and I are addicted to snooker. Our hometown pool room has two Brunswick 10 footers. Another nearby hall has three 9 foot tables. Different rules at each place but we prefer the 10 foot table. Last spring we played on a 12 foot table in Pensacola. It didnt have napped cloth but it was great. I think the pockets were slightly bigger than our 10 footers. We are searching for an affordable traditional 12 foot English snooker table for our game room if anyone here knows where I can get one shipped to Alabama please let me know.
 
I played a table similar to what you describe at nice golf club (as guest I can't afford it sadly). The balls were standard but the pockets were incredibly tight, it was a lot of fun. Really emphasized good shot selection, smart safety play and tight position play. Definitely trickier than anything I've played on.

Just to clarify - do you know, were the balls 2 1/8(American) or 2 1/16(English)?

The difference may not seem like much to someone who has never tried to fire one into
a corner pocket.

Dale
 
Scaramouche, before we lost our one and only Hall in Regina, they had 6, 12' Brunswicks.

They got used, and lots. Now, we have one private Club in town with a 12 Footer.

The old Hall did have one 9 foot snooker table, on top of the 12's. It never got used so the owner got rid of it.

Playing Snooker on anything but a 12, isn't much fun. Now I have one lonely Snooker Cue sitting in it's case.
My Buddy and I are going to join the private club, as they also have the only 9 footer in town also.
 
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Sorry Ralph, that is NOT American Snooker, that is English(International) Snooker played in America.

This is American Snooker:

https://www.popscreen.com/prod/MTU4...TABLESPORT-KING-CIRCA-1960-5-X-10-NEVER-BEEN-

Try to keep up.

Dale

Great post. American Snooker has been in the BCA Rulebook for decades as its own rulesest as opposed to Imperial or British Snooker.

I also want to say that there are smaller 9' snooker tables sprinkled across the country, all for American Snooker. I've played in Tennessee, for example, using 10 reds.

For those that for some reason or another (like the OP) want 2 1/4" snooker balls, Aramith has been making these for several years.

http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-11-157-Aramith-4-Inch-Snooker/dp/B005GVH5ZQ
 
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Thank You.

Great post. American Snooker has been in the BCA Rulebook for decades as its own rulesest as opposed to Imperial or British Snooker.

I also want to say that there are smaller 9' snooker tables sprinkled across the country, all for American Snooker. I've played in Tennessee, for example, using 10 reds.

For those that for some reason or another (like the OP) want 2 1/4" snooker balls, Aramith has been making these for several years.

http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-11-157-Aramith-4-Inch-Snooker/dp/B005GVH5ZQ

I may give these a go. Thank you.

My main reason to want a set would be to create something different that some people might enjoy trying. The place that I play. Chandley's Chalk and Cue in Statesville NC is a very large building and eventually its possible that a Snooker Table could exist there. Meantime a ball set even if it were the smaller balls might provide for some entertainment that is different for some people and create a following for the game. I think that by using a Diamond Pro Am 9 or even better 10ft table we could get away with it and people might be drawn to it. If I haven't learned anything about pool its that the sport is made up of many sets of demographics. Not everyone likes the same thing and one should think about offering them as many things they might like as possible. There will always be those that don't like something but each one of those does like something, hopefully its something you offer. We have a Big Foot Diamond 10 ft table with drop pockets and I think a used set of Snooker Balls regardless of size would work on it just fine for entertainment. I will start looking around.
 
I may be a purist but I feel like snooker needs to be played on 12 foot tables. The distance and difficulty gives the game its identity because the tactical game becomes almost as important as break building. You also have to play the percentages with long potting. You just lose so much with a smaller table.

Many pool players who have tried snooker on a pool table prefer it to 8 ball or 9 ball, because points scoring more consistently rewards better play.

The problem is to get pool players to try snooker. Playing snooker on a smaller table is similar to pool, easing the transition.

Buying snooker balls and a cheap snooker cue is far less expensive than buying a cue for a 12 ft. table - mini butt, extension, good case - probably from the U.K.

Pool players who are not initiated to snooker by someone who knows the rules will adopt pool rules for ball in hand and contacting a rail, dream up their own points system, or ignore points entirely.

So, in a missionary role, seeking snooker converts, one should not be doctrinaire on table size. :grin:
 
Liability (aka Citation), Payball (aka 6-ball), One redball snooker, 3 redball snooker and Golf are all great action games on the 10" American snooker table. I've also seen one-pocket played. It's been many years, however.

These are the games that interest me the most yet now you only read about them in books! With all the craze of the Diamond 10 footers I'm surprised none of these matches have popped up recently. One Pocket on a 10 foot snooker table and Payball would be very interesting games to watch with the top players involved.
 
I may give these a go. Thank you.

My main reason to want a set would be to create something different that some people might enjoy trying. The place that I play. Chandley's Chalk and Cue in Statesville NC is a very large building and eventually its possible that a Snooker Table could exist there. Meantime a ball set even if it were the smaller balls might provide for some entertainment that is different for some people and create a following for the game. I think that by using a Diamond Pro Am 9 or even better 10ft table we could get away with it and people might be drawn to it. If I haven't learned anything about pool its that the sport is made up of many sets of demographics. Not everyone likes the same thing and one should think about offering them as many things they might like as possible. There will always be those that don't like something but each one of those does like something, hopefully its something you offer. We have a Big Foot Diamond 10 ft table with drop pockets and I think a used set of Snooker Balls regardless of size would work on it just fine for entertainment. I will start looking around.

If you play by using American or International Snooker rules, the balls on a pool table should be 21/4" or the rails won't play correctly.

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Just to clarify - do you know, were the balls 2 1/8(American) or 2 1/16(English)?

The difference may not seem like much to someone who has never tried to fire one into
a corner pocket.

Dale

Im not sure, but I didn't notice a difference in the balls so they must have been 2 1/16. Would have enjoyed trying the 2 1/18 balls.
 
I may give these a go. Thank you.

My main reason to want a set would be to create something different that some people might enjoy trying. The place that I play. Chandley's Chalk and Cue in Statesville NC is a very large building and eventually its possible that a Snooker Table could exist there. Meantime a ball set even if it were the smaller balls might provide for some entertainment that is different for some people and create a following for the game. I think that by using a Diamond Pro Am 9 or even better 10ft table we could get away with it and people might be drawn to it. If I haven't learned anything about pool its that the sport is made up of many sets of demographics. Not everyone likes the same thing and one should think about offering them as many things they might like as possible. There will always be those that don't like something but each one of those does like something, hopefully its something you offer. We have a Big Foot Diamond 10 ft table with drop pockets and I think a used set of Snooker Balls regardless of size would work on it just fine for entertainment. I will start looking around.

IMO you should use 2 1/4" balls on a pool table. Smaller balls will get trapped between the cushion nose and table surface.
They will rebound off the rail but may come off at a different angle than anticipated, or they might come off with less speed.

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Correct. Which is why he wants 2 1/4" snooker balls.

Did we read the same post? I thought he said, regardless of size.

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Thank you!

IMO you should use 2 1/4" balls on a pool table. Smaller balls will get trapped between the cushion nose and table surface.
They will rebound off the rail but may come off at a different angle than anticipated, or they might come off with less speed.

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Did we read the same post? I thought he said, regardless of size.

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Mr. Kramden,
You make a great point. I will definitely be looking for 2 1/4 in balls as a result of your post.
 
IMO you should use 2 1/4" balls on a pool table. Smaller balls will get trapped between the cushion nose and table surface.
They will rebound off the rail but may come off at a different angle than anticipated, or they might come off with less speed.

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Did we read the same post? I thought he said, regardless of size.

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Sorry, I was going back to his original post, where he specifically was looking for 2 1/4" balls.
 
I've wanted matchroom to push snooker in the states for.... Well, forever. The Americans regardless of the sport always generate world class sportsmen and women in what ever field they choose. Not to mention the population of North America alone is huge and could generate a lot of money for the sport. But for what ever reason matchroom haven't made a real go at marketing snooker to North America.

My views are that it should be played on a 12 foot table. At the amateur level and pro level. Playing on a pool table, 9 ft or 10 ft I would be making a 100 break every other innings and it just wouldn't be challenging. Not to mention the viewers watching a top 16 player dog a ball down the cushion on TV then making it with their eyes shut at the pool Hall.... They will think the game is easy and lose interest in watching it... Not so much playing but watching.

I've played it on a pool table before using a set of solid and striped balls. I used 6 'reds' and used the 1-6 balls as the reds (all solids) then the 8 as the black, 15 as the brown, 9 as the yellow basically the striped balls are the colours and I tried matching them with the relative colour on a snooker table the best I could. It can be played, it is fun and it's quick. A good straight pool or 8 ball player will finish a frame. Of 6 reds on a 9fter in 1 break mostly and in about 5 minutes. It's good fun to play and I urge anyone to give it a try.
 
Scaramouche, before we lost our one and only Hall in Regina, they had 6, 12' Brunswicks.

They got used, and lots. Now, we have one private Club in town with a 12 Footer.

The old Hall did have one 9 foot snooker table, on top of the 12's. It never got used so the owner got rid of it.

Playing Snooker on anything but a 12, isn't much fun. Now I have one lonely Snooker Cue sitting in it's case.
My Buddy and I are going to join the private club, as they also have the only 9 footer in town also.

I've played in Regina a few times. I liked that room with the snooker tables. Sorry to hear it's gone. What about that upstairs room that had some 9 footers? I was playing there on the night when Saskatchewan lost to Montreal in the grey cup final at the last minute. What a heart breaker and shock.
 
Great post. American Snooker has been in the BCA Rulebook for decades as its own rulesest as opposed to Imperial or British Snooker.

I also want to say that there are smaller 9' snooker tables sprinkled across the country, all for American Snooker. I've played in Tennessee, for example, using 10 reds.

For those that for some reason or another (like the OP) want 2 1/4" snooker balls, Aramith has been making these for several years.

http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-11-157-Aramith-4-Inch-Snooker/dp/B005GVH5ZQ

Thanks Freddie. Just to set the record straight, lest anyone thinks I might be some kind of jingoistic Snooker chauvinist,
I actually prefer the English rules - tho the 'honest effort' requirement can be problematic without a referee.
Nothing could make me much happier than a room with 10 footers and 12 footers side by side.

Bringing things full circle, there is(was?) a room in Dayton, OH that had a great 9 ft Anniversary Snooker table.
And, of course, they had a set of 2 1/8 in Pool Balls:)

Dale
 
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I've played in Regina a few times. I liked that room with the snooker tables. Sorry to hear it's gone. What about that upstairs room that had some 9 footers? I was playing there on the night when Saskatchewan lost to Montreal in the grey cup final at the last minute. What a heart breaker and shock.

Come to Saskatoon :thumbup: There are two snooker tables at Pacific and two at Snooker Shack. The two at Pacific are busy enough that George has thought of adding more (the old place had 4 12'ers).

I too would like to see snooker on 12'ers become more popular in the USA. It is an excellent game. I'm sure with proper facilities would come better competition and better quality snooker as a result.

Dave <-- can't play snooker ... and not much good at pool either :angry:
 
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