An idea that works good for slow cheap cloth
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This will likely make draw, follow, banks and spin very interesting to use.
Have not used this specific product, but every time I have seen someone polish balls with wax or something that reduced friction outside of just cleaning, they reacted very "wrong". People do trick shots with that type of stuff though.
I'd like to see some video of shots done with this stuff on the balls and table. I would guess when you draw the ball the cueball spins in place for a bit before zooming back.
Have not used this specific product, but every time I have seen someone polish balls with wax or something that reduced friction outside of just cleaning, they reacted very "wrong". People do trick shots with that type of stuff though.
I'd like to see some video of shots done with this stuff on the balls and table. I would guess when you draw the ball the cueball spins in place for a bit before zooming back.
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Like the little trick I did to "Napa Jack" a few years back. Greased up the cue ball, put a ball in the jaws of a foot pocket and the greased cue ball behind the line and bet him he couldn't play a stop shot. He kept drawing the ball back to the middle of the table.
Greasing the equipment is amusing.
"While you're at it, use some on the shaft of your pool cue...also on the inside of the glove you shoot with (if you use a glove"
i'm just making guesses here. does this stuff make the shaft more sleek?
inside the glove prevents stickiness?
just wondering what's the purpose for each.
i'm just making guesses here. does this stuff make the shaft more sleek?
inside the glove prevents stickiness?
just wondering what's the purpose for each.
I think there is or was a brand of cloth that used Teflon on it to keep it cleaner, but that would be much different than putting the stuff on the balls.
I think that Chalk-Off stuff had a similar effect from what I heard/read about it, that it made the cloth more slippery after it was used.
Championship Vallley Ultra with teflon.
Same as Mercury Ultra, just the threads
are bathed in Teflon before it is woven.
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Well you deserve to be ripped to shreds over such a stupid post. I know you have me on ignore so this is for everybody else. This product is, in fact, 100% petroleum derived. Its active ingredient is a light alkylate as shown here:
https://chem.nlm.nih.gov/chemidplus/rn/64741-66-8
It does not have any listed ill effects, other than if you eat or inhale it. However, I have a little background in this area, and I tell you that you do not want to basically spray this stuff on your hands. This is effectively what you are doing by spraying it on the cloth and inside your glove (good grief!). Every time you touch the cloth it will adsorb onto your skin, your clothes, your dog and you will ingest some of it along the way. It can mix with and dilute the oils in your fingers, which is natural protection from absorbing other chemicals from the environment into your bloodstream.
This product isn't far from being WD40, which does have potentially harmful effects on skin. Don't risk it. Chemicals listed as safe today are on the carcinogen list tomorrow. That comes from personal experience.
It is far safer to keep your equipment and hands clean than to spray a petroleum product on everything.
Lol I just got in an argument with someone th other day about petroleum solvents in brake cleaner and such.....it’s all petroleum based lol
Dude thought because it doesn’t leave a “wet” slick film it wasn’t but some solvents are “dry” of course
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Reel Magic is just silicone I believe.
From what I understand, cue makers don't want silicone anywhere near a pool cue.
If it gets in their shop it is impossible to get rid of it and it messes with finishes and other things.
I am just saying what I have seen the cue makers write about in this forum.
You might want to ask them about wiping your shaft down with silicone.
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From what I understand, cue makers don't want silicone anywhere near a pool cue.
If it gets in their shop it is impossible to get rid of it and it messes with finishes and other things.
I am just saying what I have seen the cue makers write about in this forum.
You might want to ask them about wiping your shaft down with silicone.
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Wax is just as big a problem. I worked in a body shop as a painter for 5 years. I can tell you that silicone can be a nightmare. Actually tire dressing is just as big a pain in the arse....which has silicone in it. But there are solvents made to deal with it.
I do use a silicone cloth I use on my cue. Used occasionally, it helps keep chalk dust from sticking.
I do use a silicone cloth I use on my cue. Used occasionally, it helps keep chalk dust from sticking.
if you want to "juice" up old crappy cloth without much hubbub over skid and odd play or one of them horse blankets in a bar lol........starch and iron, ED....starch and iron....or better yet put you some velvet from joanns fabric on there.....yes i'm totally joking
press dat comme ca!
So I did a little more looking around since people seem to think this product is just silicone spray. It is not. There are two products, an aerosol and a trigger spray. Oddly, they have different ingredients. I described the aerosol above, which has ZERO silicone in it. The trigger product does have some silicone, although not the major ingredient. The trigger also contains a benzyl component, which is often linked with cancer causing products. For instance, benzene is the poster child for carcinogenic aromatic compounds, and there are many other similar compounds containing the aromatic benzyl group. Like I said, today's safe product is on tomorrow's carcinogen list. Think mercury, asbestos, on and on and on.
How about this? Vacuum the cloth then wipe down with a damp microfiber cloth. Then iron the cloth while it is still a little damp to tighten it up and flatten the fibers. That will accomplish about the same thing without putting petroleum distillates (similar to WD40) on your table, and balls, and shaft and glove and underarms...
Please somebody copy this message for Low because he has me on ignore. If I can get him to stop recommending spraying this stuff on everything then so much the better. I'm just a chemical engineer who worked with these kinds of chemicals, so what do I know. I guess a guy who sings at birthday parties knows better.
So I did a little more looking around since people seem to think this product is just silicone spray. It is not. There are two products, an aerosol and a trigger spray. Oddly, they have different ingredients. I described the aerosol above, which has ZERO silicone in it. The trigger product does have some silicone, although not the major ingredient. The trigger also contains a benzyl component, which is often linked with cancer causing products. For instance, benzene is the poster child for carcinogenic aromatic compounds, and there are many other similar compounds containing the aromatic benzyl group. Like I said, today's safe product is on tomorrow's carcinogen list. Think mercury, asbestos, on and on and on.
How about this? Vacuum the cloth then wipe down with a damp microfiber cloth. Then iron the cloth while it is still a little damp to tighten it up and flatten the fibers. That will accomplish about the same thing without putting petroleum distillates (similar to WD40) on your table, and balls, and shaft and glove and underarms...
Please somebody copy this message for Low because he has me on ignore. If I can get him to stop recommending spraying this stuff on everything then so much the better. I'm just a chemical engineer who worked with these kinds of chemicals, so what do I know. I guess a guy who sings at birthday parties knows better.
And what are your thoughts on wax? Or funature polish?
And as a chemical engineer, I shouldn't have to tell you what happens when you put a hot iron to a cloth that has a nylon content. I suggest you retract that advice. I can tell you from experience.....DONT DO IT!
I don't have a problem with wax. It probably would cause irritation over time if you put it inside your gloves like Low recommended. That's the problem with using products in ways they weren't intended. You have to think about consequences.
Don't use a hot iron, put it on "low." The OP said this was for a worn out and/or slow cloth. A little common sense helps, too.
Yeah odds are someone gonna have some kind of dermatitis issue over something such as that....
Remember some have young children....they put things in their mouth more often than not which are not supposed to be.
Doesn’t really make a shit if we often use worse things or blah blah blah.....it’s 2018 they banned smoking in most public places....we still don’t know all the long term side effects of many of the man made chemicals that surround us everyday, we do know that kids and some adults are very sensitive to certain things so rag on Dan about it but he’s he’s got safety first on his mind.
Do what you do, but don’t bullshit yourself and others in regards to such things in regards to proper safety including Ppe when necessary.
If you don’t know. Ask.
If your unsure always err in the greater safety side.
That you can bank on
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Re read his post. He didn't say inside the glove. He meant on the inside of the thumb and fore finger where the cue slides.... Not between the glove and your hand. Even I comprehended that.
And I did try it with the iron on LOW. It made a mess on the ol ladies iron.
And most waxes are full of petroleum distillate. Which ones are ok, and which ones are not?
And I did try it with the iron on LOW. It made a mess on the ol ladies iron.
And most waxes are full of petroleum distillate. Which ones are ok, and which ones are not?
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Actually he did say inside the glove, but he corrected himself. "Inside" still doesn't really make sense, but whatever. It doesn't matter. Over time that stuff will penetrate through the porous glove.
Wax is different in many ways. It is not volatile and isn't applied with a flammable propellant like Real Magic. Nobody is taking wax and rubbing it on their hands. Anyway you are getting off the subject and I don't think you would listen to anything I say anyway.
I find it hard to believe ironing the cloth made a mess of the iron. I've done it on plenty of occasions with no problem. Maybe you aren't cleaning the cloth first? Anyway this thread isn't about that.
Just read greyghost's post. That's where I'm coming from. I'm not saying I know everything about everything, but I do have a little background in this area. I see a party singer mouthing off about how safe this stuff is without a clue so I had to jump in with a bit more of an educated view point.
Take it or leave it.