An interesting dilemma.....

JMD in VA

JMD in VA

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I was in the poolroom this evening playing in a tournament and an interesting question was raised.

If you had the choice between and early 4 point Black Boar that was used with 1 shaft at a good price and a new, unplayed Tim Scruggs with 2 shafts; which would you choose?

This was a tough question for me to answer. I have a Scruggs but have always wanted a Black Boar. Each way you look at it has it's pro's and con's.

For me:

The Boar:
Pro - You have a Boar
Con - Pay $$$ for refurbish and new shafts

Scruggs:
Pro - Unplayed with shafts for value later
Con - You don't have a Boar

Solution: ????????


What do you think folks?

I appreciate all the feedback ahead of time.
 
I'd go for the one that I thought was the best playing cue. But then, I'm not much into collectables.
 
pwd72s said:
I'd go for the one that I thought was the best playing cue. But then, I'm not much into collectables.
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I agree. I would want the one I play with the best because no duubt it would be a player.

BVal
 
Couldn't say for sure as I really haven't been exposed to either. Both have the reputation of crafting teriffic cues, but I guess I would choose the Scruggs (way different story If I could get a new BB).
 
I'm not a cue who're so I won't comment on what is more collectible/hoard-able. I own cues first for how they play, second for how I like the looks and third for collectability.

I would take the Scruggs. I like the way they play. I've played with one early BB and honestly, I felt it played very unspectacular. It didn't have a crisp hit and it isn't very impressive looking either.


Eric
 
JMD in VA said:
I was in the poolroom this evening playing in a tournament and an interesting question was raised.

If you had the choice between and early 4 point Black Boar that was used with 1 shaft at a good price and a new, unplayed Tim Scruggs with 2 shafts; which would you choose?

This was a tough question for me to answer. I have a Scruggs but have always wanted a Black Boar. Each way you look at it has it's pro's and con's.

For me:

The Boar:
Pro - You have a Boar
Con - Pay $$$ for refurbish and new shafts

Scruggs:
Pro - Unplayed with shafts for value later
Con - You don't have a Boar

Solution: ????????


What do you think folks?

I appreciate all the feedback ahead of time.
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Neither, I'd go home and watch Southpark and think of better ways to thwart the actions of the Somoli Pirates.
 
Scruggs over a Boar anytime... Scruggs IMO, is a much better playing cue.

Plus it is NEW and you don't have to pay anyone to refinish and also make a new shaft.

Unless you have enough money... to buy BOTH. That way you don't have to make a decision.


JMD in VA said:
I was in the poolroom this evening playing in a tournament and an interesting question was raised.

If you had the choice between and early 4 point Black Boar that was used with 1 shaft at a good price and a new, unplayed Tim Scruggs with 2 shafts; which would you choose?

This was a tough question for me to answer. I have a Scruggs but have always wanted a Black Boar. Each way you look at it has it's pro's and con's.

For me:

The Boar:
Pro - You have a Boar
Con - Pay $$$ for refurbish and new shafts

Scruggs:
Pro - Unplayed with shafts for value later
Con - You don't have a Boar

Solution: ????????


What do you think folks?

I appreciate all the feedback ahead of time.
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Thanks!

With the exception of 1 totally unecessary post, I thank you for your posts.

Keep em coming!
 
For some people thwarting the Somoli Pirates is necessary!!!!!! As opposed to fawning over expensive custom cues.

I'm supprised you don't agree.
 
Scruggs....it has two shafts and I like new, as well as the good reputation his cues have as well :D
 
damn folks ..been a while since i posted anything

To answer the question.. I think I would buy the boar...simply because the ability to find those things ...much less the chance to buy it dont come around very often...as for the scruggs..like you said you have one already, and a very beautiful cue I might add.. I would put the boar away as a collectable. As for playability (if that even a word haha) It all comes down to how it feels in your hand. I know a guy who can play lights out with a stock cuetec. I remember talking to pro player in North Carolina once who was using a house cue that had a radial pin put in and a low deflection shaft on it.. He said good shaft , questionable butt , but hey i just won the tournament with it.

So thats my opinion.. Hell i love shooting with my Dale perry..go figure
 
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I've owned multiple cues of each type.

Both are phenomenal in quality and playability.

For me, personally...I'd get the Scruggs. No doubt.
 
supergreenman said:
For some people thwarting the Somoli Pirates is necessary!!!!!! As opposed to fawning over expensive custom cues.

I'm supprised you don't agree.
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I do agree. However, this post has no business in this thread or this particular forum.

I believe this should be it's own post in the Non-Pool Related Forum.

Please stop posting threads not pertaining to this situation in this thread.
 
I believe Tim scruggs made the butts on some of the early black boar cues, so if you get an early boar you actually have a little of both!
 
I take the Scruggs everytime,while the new BB are great cues and the old 6 point Boar cues are good cues,I understand the old 4 point cues were not the quality that the others are.
It is also my understanding that the old 4 point Black Boar cues were not made by Scruggs or even the same way or quality. If i could buy a new Black Boar ,that would be something very special indeed.
I understand that Mike Cochran cues are the best of both worlds.The great hit of Tim and some of the far out beauty of Black Boar.
Either way if you are fortunate enough to buy either one,you have a treasure.

DEAN
 
JMD in VA said:
I do agree. However, this post has no business in this thread or this particular forum.

I believe this should be it's own post in the Non-Pool Related Forum.

Please stop posting threads not pertaining to this situation in this thread.
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Dude you really need to find your sense of humor. Maybe the Somoli Pirates stole it.:cool:
 
I would take the Scruggs personally.

Boars do come up now and again, particularly in the condition you describe.

If the Boar was in the same condition as the Scruggs (essentially new) then that would be a very different story. Mint early Boars are very rare, as generally they were bought by players, not collectors.

Grab the Scruggs now, and wait for a better condition early boar to come up. Worst case you sell the Scruggs later to finance the better Boar...:grin:
 
Josh, unless the seller has no knowledge of cues, I have to assume the Boar is way over priced. Currently, all Boars are over priced. The only people selling them are those that really need the money or those that want to make a huge profit. In either case, they are greatly over priced.

If you buy the Boar, you will kill the value of it if you don't have it reconditioned by Tony S., the maker of Black Boars. If you do have Tony recondition the cue, it will probably cost you almost as much as the Scruggs.

If you just want the cue as an investment, the Scruggs certainly fits that bill better than a Boar in need of work.

If you want to use the cue as a player, I recommend the Scruggs. I have hit with Boars and I have been greatly unimpressed.
On the other hand, if Tony reconditions the cue, and an even bigger "IF", IF you can talk him into making one of his special shafts for it, which he only does for certain people, the cue will play great. I have played with a cue with its original shaft and one of the special shafts and it is like night and day.

Considering everything involved, I recommend the Scruggs. However, it is your dime.
 
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