Anniversary original Monarch cushions...

goldcrown4

goldcrown4

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I'm getting closer to the point of needing a table mechanic to replace the cushions (and clothe them). The original Monarchs remain on the rails but when they are removed, can I expect them to be trashed as part of the removal process? Or if it's possible to remove them carefully, is there a market for these 60+ year old cushions? They are not rock hard and played quite well.
 
goldcrown4 said:
I'm getting closer to the point of needing a table mechanic to replace the cushions (and clothe them). The original Monarchs remain on the rails but when they are removed, can I expect them to be trashed as part of the removal process? Or if it's possible to remove them carefully, is there a market for these 60+ year old cushions? They are not rock hard and played quite well.
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No market for them, and getting them off with no difficulty is going to be a magic trick.
 
roger that... i appreciate the quick feedback on this. I'll probably salvage a piece or two that reveals the original markings and use in some kind of display I've been dreaming up. What does a mechanic do to remove them? guided band saw?

When I bought the table, it came with a set of Centennial balls, and a set of what I believe are the original balls. I imagine there would be a market for those rolling antiques, but I probably won't sell them. Maybe a trade though. There must be a way to identify them. Need to get out the camera again.
 
Can this be effectively repaired?

With this being my only real problem with the cushions, is there a quality repair option rather than replacing what is otherwise some very lively 60+ year old Monarchs? The chunk just so happens to be right where a ball would contact it. Though I know I'd be much happier going with brand new Artemis Intercontinental #66's, but if this can be repaired, it would save me a chunk of cash.
 

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When you get a minute, I'd sincerely appreciate your opinion on whether this little missing rubber chunk is repairable. many thanks for your time.
 
goldcrown4 said:
I wonder why there is such a disparity between the price for Artemis Intercontinental #66 (K55 profile) which Diamond charges $275/set compared to Artemis Pool #66 which Ken Haash charges $195 for (plus shipping). It's hard to ignore the price for the Brunswick Superspeeds @$150. Ref: http://classicbilliards.net/html/antiquepooltablepartsaccessori.cfm (scroll just under half way down to find the cushions).
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Why the nickel and diming of an Anniversary?? Over the next 50 years, even 100.00 is moot...
 
pescadoman said:
Why the nickel and diming of an Anniversary?? Over the next 50 years, even 100.00 is moot...
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I've read in these awesome forums that if original Monarch cushions have not hardened and still playing really well, then why change them. I doubt I'd find for sale a short rail of Monarch cushion for sale so if that chunk is the only thing wrong with the cushions, and if it can be fixed, so be it, but if not, I know I won't be disappointed with Artemis replacements... just disappointed with the cost.
 
goldcrown4 said:
I've read in these awesome forums that if original Monarch cushions have not hardened and still playing really well, then why change them. I doubt I'd find for sale a short rail of Monarch cushion for sale so if that chunk is the only thing wrong with the cushions, and if it can be fixed, so be it, but if not, I know I won't be disappointed with Artemis replacements... just disappointed with the cost.
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I was referring to the Artemis vs superspeed price. I wish I had the room for a table!
 
goldcrown4 said:
I've read in these awesome forums that if original Monarch cushions have not hardened and still playing really well, then why change them. I doubt I'd find for sale a short rail of Monarch cushion for sale so if that chunk is the only thing wrong with the cushions, and if it can be fixed, so be it, but if not, I know I won't be disappointed with Artemis replacements... just disappointed with the cost.
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I think the main reason this is a problem is that they don't make this profile cushion anymore. If you put the k-55's on (intercont. 66) then your playing field will be reduced. if you put k-66's the rail height will be too high....

you can put k-66's to the bottom of the setting strip ...but this will leave a line ......which I don't mind ....but some do.

so to do the best thing for the table the subrails should be recalibrated for the new profile cushions ....whichever you prefer....and now we are talking some money .....but then you can have the subrails extended etc ....
 
matteroner said:
I think the main reason this is a problem is that they don't make this profile cushion anymore. If you put the k-55's on (intercont. 66) then your playing field will be reduced. if you put k-66's the rail height will be too high....

you can put k-66's to the bottom of the setting strip ...but this will leave a line ......which I don't mind ....but some do.

so to do the best thing for the table the subrails should be recalibrated for the new profile cushions ....whichever you prefer....and now we are talking some money .....but then you can have the subrails extended etc ....
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Ouch this is sounding painful and costly. Wow what shitty luck. Have you heard of this before gc4 because it's news to me, and since I'm still watching for bargain anniversaries I'm really curious how bad this turns out to be... I bet you're going to opt to extend the subrails and reprofile?
 
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Rubber removal

I dont know how everybody else removes cushions but here's how we do it. Take facings off then insert a medium size screw driver into concave slot on backside of cushion and gentle start to lift cushion up and away from rail at times we will also use a putty knife if the wood from the rail is also starting to come off with the cushion worst case we run the rail through the table saw and cut it off. Well I hope that helps
 
I've yet to find out if the mechanic I talked to can do the kind of subrail recalibration/extensions that everyone here is gaga about. I'm not so keen on a dip in the cloth along the subrail surface, and not so keen on thick facings to tighten, but have NO idea whatsoever the typical cost to have the custom work done.
 
retro65 said:
I dont know how everybody else removes cushions but here's how we do it. Take facings off then insert a medium size screw driver into concave slot on backside of cushion and gentle start to lift cushion up and away from rail at times we will also use a putty knife if the wood from the rail is also starting to come off with the cushion worst case we run the rail through the table saw and cut it off. Well I hope that helps
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I need to spend some time with you guys sometime when I'm up in Washington state...LOL
 
The dreaded table saw massacre if done wrong.......I have seen it done wrong many a times

Think it out before have a larger problem.

Craig
 
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