Another way to get the LD

Hey Tommy,

I have a question about the maintenance of the shaft, mostly regarding re-tipping.

I understand that the without the ferrule, the end mass is lower and by that you get less squirt (CB deflection), but the reason for the ferrule from the first place was to protect the wood from splitting. Over the years we've seen different ferrules from different materials and different lengths. The pool world learned over the last few years that smaller and lighter ferrules are better, this was known to the Carom and Snooker world for many years before. But still all are using some sort of a ferrule.

I understand that the pad provides some kind of protection to the wood but just how much protection?

When replacing a tip, usually the shaft is sanded a bit to remove glue left-overs and to make it flush. when you have 1/4 inch ferrule or more this sanding is no big deal but just having a pad will make the "wood protector" very thin in no time and the protection value of it will be lost.
Some use pads on ivory ferrules an synthetic ferruls as well, when the pad is thin than replacing it is not a big deal as the ferrule is still there to protect the wood.

What happens when it's time to replace the pad on this shaft?
I fear that most DIY players will have problems here and might damage the wood. Not every one can send their shafts to a pro cue-smith.

What are your thoughts on this?
 
Hey Tommy,

I have a question about the maintenance of the shaft, mostly regarding re-tipping.

I understand that the without the ferrule, the end mass is lower and by that you get less squirt (CB deflection), but the reason for the ferrule from the first place was to protect the wood from splitting. Over the years we've seen different ferrules from different materials and different lengths. The pool world learned over the last few years that smaller and lighter ferrules are better, this was known to the Carom and Snooker world for many years before. But still all are using some sort of a ferrule.

I understand that the pad provides some kind of protection to the wood but just how much protection?

When replacing a tip, usually the shaft is sanded a bit to remove glue left-overs and to make it flush. when you have 1/4 inch ferrule or more this sanding is no big deal but just having a pad will make the "wood protector" very thin in no time and the protection value of it will be lost.
Some use pads on ivory ferrules an synthetic ferruls as well, when the pad is thin than replacing it is not a big deal as the ferrule is still there to protect the wood.

What happens when it's time to replace the pad on this shaft?
I fear that most DIY players will have problems here and might damage the wood. Not every one can send their shafts to a pro cue-smith.

What are your thoughts on this?

I will post some of my thoughts on this. I also use a shaft with out a ferrule. I use a pad under the tip when installing the tip and use a new pad each time I replace the tip.
I have been using the same shaft for about 2 yrs and love it. I will also brk with the shaft sometimes and have had no problems. I do think it would be a bad idea to do it all the time due the fact my shaft is hollowed out.

I tried the ferrules shaft with a flat laminated shaft and did have the shaft split after a couple of months of play. It split while I was breaking. I changed to a regular shaft with same set up and have not had any problems, I break with it at times and it has been fine.
I also put a little super glue where a ferrule would be to help keep it clean.
 
Hey Tommy,

I have a question about the maintenance of the shaft, mostly regarding re-tipping.

I understand that the without the ferrule, the end mass is lower and by that you get less squirt (CB deflection), but the reason for the ferrule from the first place was to protect the wood from splitting. Over the years we've seen different ferrules from different materials and different lengths. The pool world learned over the last few years that smaller and lighter ferrules are better, this was known to the Carom and Snooker world for many years before. But still all are using some sort of a ferrule.

I understand that the pad provides some kind of protection to the wood but just how much protection?

When replacing a tip, usually the shaft is sanded a bit to remove glue left-overs and to make it flush. when you have 1/4 inch ferrule or more this sanding is no big deal but just having a pad will make the "wood protector" very thin in no time and the protection value of it will be lost.
Some use pads on ivory ferrules an synthetic ferrules as well, when the pad is thin than replacing it is not a big deal as the ferrule is still there to protect the wood.

What happens when it's time to replace the pad on this shaft?
I fear that most DIY players will have problems here and might damage the wood. Not every one can send their shafts to a pro cue-smith.

What are your thoughts on this?

Great questions, thanks for taking time to read the thread and voice your concerns.

The pad we use does provide protection for the end of the shaft, it also plays an important role in tip adhesion.

My recommendation is to replace the fiber pad every time you replace the tip. I am guilty of assuming everyone is as meteculius as we are when it comes to exacting tolerances and attention to detail, and would hope they treat the process of changing a tip the same. If you feel the person you allow to work on your shaft is not a pro, I would remind them they are working on a precision instrument and need to proceed accordingly.

I want to address a point my friend, Will, brought up about breaking with a ferrule-less shaft. I do not recommend using the shaft to break. The shaft can perform any shot required during a game, including the break shot, I just think it is better to use another cue to perform the break.

Hope I was able to answer your questions, please feel free to comment or ask any more questions you might have about our shaft. Thanks
 
A lot of people tried our shafts at the Mid West Cue Show, and we thank you for taking the time to give the shaft a spin. Thanks to Jamie for a great show as well. PM me if you would like to have one made for you.
 
These are being well recieved for good reason, and that same quality driven methodology applies to everything that leaves the Ca$h cues & Thoroughbred shop. Your satisfaction will never be taken in more earnest, or held in more esteem.
 
It was designed and produced in USA ... as an OPTION or kind a UPGRADE for Cues out of the $Cue/Worldclass-SHOP ...... they dont produce them a 1000 pieces like TIGER/Predater/OB1 and so on .... so if you don't like the price you dont have to buy it ....... it's that simple isnt it ? ;)

nevermind.
 
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If you ordered a shaft in the past 3 weeks, your shaft(s) will be shipping Monday.

PM me if you would like to odrer a shaft from our next batch.
 
During the recent tournament at Shooter's I screwed my new ferruleless shaft on my buddy's 15 year old McDaniel's cue and a few AZ'ers (ibuycues, hitman, felix) gave it a test drive and to a man everyone was very impressed how the shaft sends the cueball directly to where it was aimed. I think you might be getting another order in the very near future Tommy.

-don
 
During the recent tournament at Shooter's I screwed my new ferruleless shaft on my buddy's 15 year old McDaniel's cue and a few AZ'ers (ibuycues, hitman, felix) gave it a test drive and to a man everyone was very impressed how the shaft sends the cueball directly to where it was aimed. I think you might be getting another order in the very near future Tommy.

-don

Wow Don, you are the man! I can't express my gratitude to you for taking a chance with our shaft, and then touting them to your friends. This means more to me than you will ever know. Thank you, my friend.
 
Rec'd my 2nd Ca$h ferrule-less shaft today - this time in a different joint ring to fit my other cues, and a Kamui Black SS tip (which turns out to be a real nice fit here). Perfect fit & finish, nailed the weight, hits 'em super. You won't find better quality, and a greater commitment to customer service, than these guys.
Thanks, Tommy. Always a pleasure.
 
Rec'd my 2nd Ca$h ferrule-less shaft today - this time in a different joint ring to fit my other cues, and a Kamui Black SS tip (which turns out to be a real nice fit here). Perfect fit & finish, nailed the weight, hits 'em super. You won't find better quality, and a greater commitment to customer service, than these guys.
Thanks, Tommy. Always a pleasure.

Thanks Chris, it is always a pleasure to deal with you, my friend.
 
New batch of ferrule-less shafts coming out in the next week. Get your order in for the next batch!
 
This weekend is a great time to get your order in. They are piling up fast, so PM me to get in this batch.
 
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