Another what's your shot?

You could shoot the 2 and draw back a bit. Then shoot the 3 cross side, that should leave you good on the 4.
 
NewStroke said:
Hey Andrew,

Why pass up the bank with inside English? Are you figuring the percentages are too low?
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Yep, that's exactly what I'm figuring. Also, it's unclear to me that the 3 will bank; it's frozen to the 6, and hard to judge from here what angle you can hit it to miss the kiss off the 6.

I know this safety can be done, and I have to hit it really bad to actually sell out. With the bank, I only have to miss by a millimeter to sell out.

-Andrew
 
I know that i couldn't do it, but I've seen guys able to hit draw well enough to bring it all the way back and break up the 3/6. Is the angle off? From my uneducated eyes, it seems possible on this diagram.

Looking forward to everyones decisions. Thanks for putting these up Neil. As usual, these are great learning tools for me.
(That other one you just put up, phew.... I wouldn't even hazard a guess to that one!)
 
May sound crazy at first blush, but with the 3/6 tied up you have a pretty free shot at the 2/9 cross bank. If you drag the CB under the 7 w/ draw, you may get the 2 safe afterwards anyway.
 
I'd play safe. Draw the cue ball in behind the 7, and play the 2 ball, 3 rails over by the 3 ball. If you get ball in hand, then it's an easy break out.

If you don't get ball in hand, then you'll have to see where you end up and what your options are at that point.

I guess others see the banks as 95% shots or something. I don't. Don't think I ever will.

My $.02
 
For fun I'd try the bank if it wasn't made impossible by the 3. If it was, I'd do what Andrew diagrammed.

For the sake of argument, andrew's shot still leaves the balls a little tied up.

Here's an offensive safety I thought of. If you can't turn the 3 to get it to bank below the 8 you might at least leave the 3-8 doubled up as a tough combo, which shouldn't even be considered jacked over the 6. If it goes too far the 4 might also become a blocker. You need a nice stun-follow shot to leave the CB right in front of the 6 as shown.

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CreeDo said:
For the sake of argument, andrew's shot still leaves the balls a little tied up.
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I think that the shot I diagrammed would definitely separate the 3 and 6 enough to make the 3 makeable with ball in hand. Especially on a bar box.

-Andrew
 
I don't think the 2/9 bank was anything like a cinch, just that at the right speed it has some freedom. It's always so hard to see for sure about absolute angles on these drawings. Given the option to draw straight back into the 3, that is of course what you'd have to choose first. Like Neil said, low percentage of NOT having a shot. But sometimes...
 
From the way they are sitting you could also have cut the two ball thin on the left side with right english and spun the nine ball in to the top right corner pocket. This also would have banked the two ball up table for a safe.
 
Tell Jason Hi and shoot the 2-ball two rails into the back of the 9-ball. Goes in the corner just perfect and tell him Randyg told you to....:-)

SPF=randyg
 
Feeling Good

Neil-Nice shot!

Sometimes crazy is smart.

Hind sight is of course accurrate-but it was almost a free roll at the nine with two chances to go. Kind of a high speed 1P clearing shot except either hole is a winner-the two ball heads down table and the 3/6 remain tied up.

Buddy Hall talks about a right time for the 'strategic blast'. This apparently was the time. Sometimes you gotta go.

Good choice and good shot. 'Seeing' is believing. Worst case-you rearranged the furniture.

But then, I don't need much encouragement to hit wacky shots. AKA -Where dat 9ball?

Having the opponent shaking his head ain't all bad either.
 
That's cool it went in, but I'm gonna file this under "the wrong shot is the wrong shot, even if you make it." :)

I can't tell you how many times I've shot a cool shot and was sure it would fall, and then it hung. Afterwards I sound sad and say wistfully "Man, I was sure that one was in." Those are the ones that don't get put onto a wei table >_<
 
I haven't read all the posts so if I'm repeating someone ,I apologize.

Take the safety now. If you can get by the 7 using middle or low left
bust the 6/3 out now and duck behind the 7 & 4. If you can't get by the 7 right away , make the 4 ,draw it back a little then use left of the 6/3 and duck behind the 7. The 6/3 cluster is a *****. As long as it is there everything else is a maybe.
 
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