Any ideas on something that's been bugging me?

eddieindetroit said:
Imagine each stroke like a bundle of electromagnetic waves. When the peak from one wave encounters the trough from another, they cancel each other out.

The pattern emerges in the distribution of final object ball position.

We call the mathematical description of this wavelike distribution of properties a “wave function.”

Describing the behavior of the wave function is the heart of quantum mechanics.
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I wish i knew more to understand that explanation further.
 
No answer, just suggestion and more inquiries.

Ask Tiger. Means a lot to them, also, especially with publication of this thread.
Is effect of english affected in all instances, or just banks?
Any effect on follow or draw?
Any other anomalies ?
 
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CeaseLess said:
Banking short because the English isn't throwing the ball further. I'm hitting the same spot on the rail, just won't spin like all my other cues
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Long shot this is the reason but throwing it out there: Is it possible the CF shaft is imparting slightly more speed to your shots resulting in shorter banks? Are you otherwise over-running CB position on other shots?
 
Biloxi Boy said:
No answer, just suggestion and more inquiries.

Ask Tiger. Means a lot to them, also, especially with publication of this thread.
Is effect of english affected in all instances, or just banks?
Any effect on follow or draw?
Any other anomalies ?
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I'm not bashing tiger by any means, I love the company, people and products, including this shaft. It's just a very specific thing that happens to affect me because i shoot alot of bank pool. No, nothing else out of the ordinary. Someone else also said they encountered the same issue with their ob-1, so I think it's an attribute of very low deflection wood shafts.
 
dquarasr said:
Long shot this is the reason but throwing it out there: Is it possible the CF shaft is imparting slightly more speed to your shots resulting in shorter banks? Are you otherwise over-running CB position on other shots?
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It's not a carbon fiber shaft, it's their lowest deflection wood shaft. No, I don't believe that's it because in order for me to hit the intended spot on the rail and have the spin grab like all the other cues I have, I have to slow the shot WAY down.
 
CeaseLess said:
I'm not bashing tiger by any means, I love the company, people and products, including this shaft. It's just a very specific thing that happens to affect me because i shoot alot of bank pool. No, nothing else out of the ordinary. Someone else also said they encountered the same issue with their ob-1, so I think it's an attribute of very low deflection wood shafts.
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Did not say that. All research should begin with seminal source(s). Who would have more knowledge or insight than Tiger? Tiger is one of the best across the entire world of pool. I have Snipers on all of my cues. Most consistent and form holding tip I ever used.
 
CeaseLess said:
... Anybody more knowledge then me with a reason or at the least an educated guess? T...
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The problem is that any tip/shaft gets more than enough spin on the cue ball to get max twist on the object ball. Or I should say, any tip/shaft that allows you to shoot straight up the center of the table and spin over to a side pocket.

The problem is not in the tip/shaft.
 
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Bob Jewett said:
The problem is that any tip/shaft gets more than enough spin on the cue ball to get max twist the object ball. Or I should say, any tip/shaft that allows you to shoot straight up the center of the table and spin over to a side pocket.

The problem is not in the tip/shaft.
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I would have to disagree in this circumstance because I'm seeing a difference. I shot the same shot with 4 different cues, including a house cue with a cheap, flat tip, and made every bank except with this shaft, it came up short, everytime. I can make it by adjusting but it still doesn't clarify my confusion.
 
I changed shafts on a nice cue I have and I started to miss a few shots I normally make. It had some subtle differences that I had to get used to, but after a while I got back to playing to the standard I'm used to. It doesn't take much in the shaft to alter things a bit in one's shot I believe.
 
CeaseLess said:
I recently bought a tiger pro shaft. The people at tiger always go above and beyond. The shaft plays and feels great. But I play a lot of bank pool and I usually bank with english to spin the object ball off the rail, and for some reason I wasn't able to get much spin transfer to the object ball off the rail with my tiger. I figured it was the onxy tip that was harder than I'm used to, so I went in and had them put on a ultraskin pro tip, which I've been playing with on a different cue for a while now. Got the shaft back, and still not much spin transfer. Went to the hall today and used my old dufferin cue that also has a ultraskin pro tip and I was spinning banks in like usual, used my old shaft and same thing, picked up a shitty house cue and they were all exactly the same amount of spin off the rail I was used to. Then went back to my tiger and it only gets about a third of the spin I'd expect. It puts a ton of spin on the cue ball and I'm able to throw balls straight into the pockets (straight shots not banks) but for the life of me I haven't been able to come up with a reason why it won't transfer spin to the object ball. Anybody more knowledge then me with a reason or at the least an educated guess? Thanks. -CeadeLess-
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The key here is that this shaft spins the CB very well and more than the others. More spin doesn't mean more will teansfer. Quite the opposite past a certain point. I actually learned this watching an old accustats 9ball match where grady and incardona like to wax poetic about shots...

When describing how a player should play a certain bank, one of the two master commentators memtioned that he doesn't want to spin the cb too much here bc less spin transfers to the ob better.

So that's ur issue imo. Simple adjustment. Put less spin on the cb.
 
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WobblyStroke said:
The key here is that this shaft spins the CB very well and more than the others. More spin doesn't mean more will teansfer. Quite the opposite. I actually learned this watching an old accustats 9ball match where grady and incardona like to wax poetic about shots...

When describing how a player should play a certain bank, one of the two master commentators memtioned that he doesn't want to spin the cb too much here bc less spin transfers to the ob better.

So that's ur issue imo. Simple adjustment. Put less spin on the cb by hitting bit closer to center axis than u typically would with the inferior shafts that don't spin the cb as well.
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This makes some sense .
 
WobblyStroke said:
The key here is that this shaft spins the CB very well and more than the others. More spin doesn't mean more will teansfer. Quite the opposite. I actually learned this watching an old accustats 9ball match where grady and incardona like to wax poetic about shots...

When describing how a player should play a certain bank, one of the two master commentators memtioned that he doesn't want to spin the cb too much here bc less spin transfers to the ob better.

So that's ur issue imo. Simple adjustment. Put less spin on the cb by hitting bit closer to center axis than u typically would with the inferior shafts that don't spin the cb as well.
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Cheers bro, best answer so far. I would have never thought about that but it makes sense. I wish i read that before i went to the hall today. If that is the issue then I'm REALLY gonna love this shaft.
 
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