If i believe it, its true. Case closed. Perception is everything. Very well could be in my head. My head wins this battle.
Any pro plays with 13mm shaft?
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I know several pros that use from 12mm to 12.5mm but very few that use 13mm shafts unless of course you want to count the visitors (Philippinos) I get a couple times a year. A few of them have rolled in with what looks to be very beefy shafts.
I agree with PJ but, I understand where your coming from.
I too "feel" i can move the ball better with a smaller shaft.
Now, moving the ball is good but the more important thing to me is:
I can visualize behind the cue better with a ~11.17mm shaft and never notice unwanted spin.
Your choice, of course - and it doesn't matter unless you change how you play with a smaller tip, assuming you ever do. (And it seems Billy Incardona agrees with you, so there's that...)
Others might want to know the facts - good luck to all of you.
pj
chgo
Don't you just hate those guys?
There's a certain Philippino that visits me everytime he is in the country. He always has, what some would call a broomstick with him. I've not measured but I swear, that thing looks huge. I would put it at ~13.5mm to ~13.75mm....... huge!
He can draw the white off the ball.
For a little perspective - the difference between 13mm and 12.75mm is less than 1/100th of an inch.
It's amazing how small a difference makes such a big difference to us.
pj
chgo
It's amazing how small a difference makes such a big difference to us.
pj
chgo
I think it’s all in the human. You can see more white and you go more off center. Also a thinner shaft transfers less energy. You end up doing more to stroke and execute taking you farther out of your comfort zone faster as the shot demands increase. I learned to play with a McDermott i3. I play now with a 314. I play closer to center, more within my zone and my stroke is shorter. And the results are better. I don’t overcook the cb as often. End results are better. Progress has been faster. Again it’s all between the ears. Suited my mindset better.
I think it’s kind of counter intuitive to have fewer errors with less visual precision
To look at it another way. If your/my stroke is crooked and delivers the cue at an angle 10 degrees off what I want, the tip still contacts the cue ball at the same location whether your using a 11.75 or 13 mm tip. I see the only difference being if you want 1, 2, or 3 tips of english then depending on size of tip that would be a different distance from center. When using a lot of english it’s not the center of the tip that contacts the cue ball.
I play with a 10mm tip (about snooker size), and find that I'm more precise with my tip placement on the CB - because I don't have so much "extra" tip area to obscure what part of the tip is hitting the CB. It's kinda like having a lower squirt shaft: smaller estimates = smaller errors.
pj
chgo
That would be true (a tiny bit) for different tip curvatures, even on the same width tip. But not just for different tip widths.
However, using a small tip with a larger diameter curve (for instance, using my 10mm tip with a nickel or quarter radius - which I don't do) you'll get to the edge of the tip just as you reach the miscue limit on the CB, so there might be a slight difference in how much extreme side spin you can get.
pj
chgo
On the other hand, the only Euro player who performed better than expected in the Mosconi Cup was Albin Ouschan. He uses an 11.8mm tip.
There is one more factor in the preference of a smaller diameter tip/shaft that hasn't been discussed. People with short stubby fingers who prefer a closed bridge have more difficulty with a larger diameter shaft and are more comfortable with a narrower shaft.
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Just want to be clear, tip diameter and shaft diameter are usually two different things.
Most of my shafts have a pro taper so they are the same.
But a lot of LD shafts, will have a smaller tip and the shaft will be larger.
Vantage shaft advertises 12.9mm tip but the shaft is much larger.
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Just want to be clear, tip diameter and shaft diameter are usually two different things.
Most of my shafts have a pro taper so they are the same.
But a lot of LD shafts, will have a smaller tip and the shaft will be larger.
Vantage shaft advertises 12.9mm tip but the shaft is much larger.
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Sigel looked like he still does.
I can second the 12.4mm. He still uses it very well I might add......
Do you realize that ½ of a mm (e.g. going from 13mm to 12.5mm) is 2 One Hundredth's of an inch
If you arguing between 12.5mm and 12.4 then you are talking 4 one thousands of an inch... come on
I know you can feel it, but it is not much more than a RCH
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The irony, When I simply asked for clarification if Kaci had played snooker as a child based on articles and wikipedia, you flamed for me posting incorrect information
Gotta ask why you don't follow your own advice?
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