Any suggestions on keeping focused?

Still waiting, Curly...please, no anecdotes about others.

why do I have to respond to you, what, I am your trained dog/ You give me orders and I bark/ F off.

Who I have worked with, is my private business, i am not promoting any one here, or selling any thing. Now watch every one of you who posts here, who is asking for help, is going to be getting a lot of pm's from those selling help from Scott and Franie. And none will be from me. They are both great teachers, you book with them, they will solve all of your problems.
 
Curly,

This thread is about keeping focus, and you cant even stay on the subject.

If you did something that helped you or have an idea about the topic, then that is what you should be typing.
 
Curly,

This thread is about keeping focus, and you cant even stay on the subject.

If you did something that helped you or have an idea about the topic, then that is what you should be typing.

I have written several articles about this over the years, some are available online - some are not. This is my specialty, and if you ever want to discuss the issue of focus & concentration and try out some effective exercises, feel free to give me a call Mon-Fri - my number is at my website - link is below.
 
Curly,

This thread is about keeping focus, and you cant even stay on the subject.

If you did something that helped you or have an idea about the topic, then that is what you should be typing.



Hows this for focus, i PAID Serious money for it, why should I give it to you for free? What have you done for me? My message was, go find those teaching it, and pay them for it. Go book blackjack, he's been around and is a fine teacher.
 
Congratulations. You've paid for something.

Im not asking for anything for free, just trying to get some ideas on how I (or anyone else) can maybe work through this.

You are as helpful as a condom dispenser in a maternity ward.

Please go elsewhere. You contributed nothing and continue to do so.

As I recall, I didnt ask YOU to give me anything in the first place.
 
I think concentration has to be practiced just like pocketing balls has to be practiced.

I believe games like 9 ball or 10 ball are poor games to practice prolonged concentration. You may enjoy playing them, but I think there are too many stoppers in those games to keep you in the zone for extended periods of time.

Practice 14.1. It's a game that really has you putting on the thinking cap and allows you longer periods at the table to get in the zone and stay in it.

Once you become used to these longer periods of being in the zone, the easier it will be when you go back to 9 ball or 10 ball.
 
I actually play a lot of 14.1

It has been my goal to run 100 before the end of the year. I had a high run of 67 in Feb. and have only matched it once, but had alot of high 40's and 50's.
I think the fact that I can feel myself on the verge of hitting that next level in 14.1 keeps me concentrating more.
In the other games, I sort of have become more comfortable playing them. I am always trying to improve, but I know that where I am now is probably where I will be for a while. I do feel the focus thing would help me out tremendously though.
 
Lately, I have been losing focus while playing. I matched up with someone recently and jumped on them right away. About halfway through, I found my mind wandering. I'm thinking about things that need to be done at home, or some conversation I had with people at work, etc.

After I realized my focus was gone, I tried, but could not get it back. This happens often and I'm wondering if there are any 'tricks' i could use to keep my focus and concentration. I've tried gambling 'out of my comfort zone' in order to try to force myself to bear down, that maybe helped me focus a game or 2 longer.

I dont have any problems or distractions at home. So its not my sub-conscious that's doing it.
I tried taking time off from the game in order try to reset the ol' brain.

Any suggestions?

Sounds like ADD?

http://www.add.org/
 
Lately, I have been losing focus while playing. I matched up with someone recently and jumped on them right away. About halfway through, I found my mind wandering. I'm thinking about things that need to be done at home, or some conversation I had with people at work, etc.

After I realized my focus was gone, I tried, but could not get it back. This happens often and I'm wondering if there are any 'tricks' i could use to keep my focus and concentration. I've tried gambling 'out of my comfort zone' in order to try to force myself to bear down, that maybe helped me focus a game or 2 longer.

I dont have any problems or distractions at home. So its not my sub-conscious that's doing it.
I tried taking time off from the game in order try to reset the ol' brain.

Any suggestions?

Here is the suggestion that I will throw out. Before you shoot take a step back (about 5 feet from the table) to look at the shot and take a deep breath. Stand there for about 10 seconds to visualize making the shot, what part of the pocket the ball will go in and exactly where the CB will be going after the shot. After that you can step forward and take the shot.

If you want to make it fun you can tell this to someone you are playing. If you don't take a step back and a deep breath for 10 seconds you need to put your cue on the table and do 20 push ups.

The reason I make this suggestion is because reward/punishment is a powerful habit changer. My wrestling coaches used to do this. They said if your feet are on the mat and you are not in a wrestling stance you will do 20 push ups. After doing that a few times I was always in stance on the mat during practice. At my first match I walked out onto the mat and was in stance for about 5 seconds before I realized what I was doing without even thinking about it.
 
Good Morning AZB ers :)

If we re talking about *Focus* in the game of our loved game of billiards in my opinion we re talking about the most important part-and the most difficult to learn.
Don t get me wrong- if we re talking on the mental part of the game i ll take it as given, that the player already has a minimum of the needed physical abilites. So here i would call out, that it is definitley a precondition, that you know about the physics of the game-easy said, you re a serious player, who knows what happens with the cueball, too.

To talk about focus could fill books- to keep focus on the important things is the key. Further it s a difference to talk about *keeping Focus* or talking just about concentration. For me you have to differ here!
We re talking about keeping focus in our sport (i call it sport here^^)- and soon we would reach the often discuss Pre-Shot-Routines. With Pre-Shot-Routines we try to train our brain, furthermore it has also to do with training many thousands of "auto-repeats"/repitions until muscle-memory is *burned in*. At some point you will do several things unconconsciously-it this happened, the success of the hard work has appeared. You will doing things just using your sub-conscious mind anddon t have to think anymore about it. So you have something, which can be done without spending attention on it-
If we re talking about Pros, you can be sure, that guys like Archer, Souquet, Hohman made not just 5.000 repititions while working on their *stroke* or special drills- for sure they shot it about 100.000 times- they usualy don t have to pay attention about their physical stroke ablilities or so. They just have to be *focussed* on the important part.....doing their job! Observe-Watch-Aim-Going down and shoot! They all know already what to do 100%.

But we re all humans :) and so the Pros are, too (thx God, lol). And this the reason they re makin mistakes, too. But (in my humble opinion) professionals usualy loose a game, because they lost focus in a single moment-nothin else!
Talking about pre-shot-routines can force discussions. But it s a fact, that the Pre-Shot-Routines (not just one, just a few that were put together) is extremly important. Without it you ll never reach a higher level. i often see, that *new* students rolling their eyes, when i start talking about some theoretical stuff like mental parts of the game. They just wanna pocket balls (as we all do, lol). And so do some older guys, too-most of the time with funny statements like "this pro has no psr (i ve never seen one pro without a psr)" .

The mental part makes the champion and the winner- to keep focus needs a great amount of training. Some parts can just be trained with long table-time, some should be learnt from qualified persons who really know something about mental coaching. I am far away from an expert here, but with the few things i know, i hope i can push the student/person towards thinking about how important it is, to think about the mental part of the game.

Imo on any player-level you can start with mental-training. But if you have the goal to reach the top, you really have to learn your own PSR. It always sounds so easy...but it isn t.

The area of the mental part is really too big, to describe all it s facettes in one posting. And furthermore i would say, that you have to work it out 1vs1 with each person. Some parts could work for everyone- but if you re going into details it becomes individual-like it is about teaching physical parts-noone is equal, each human has it s own physical abilities...
and so it is with his brain :)

hope it was readable for you all,

lg from overseas,

Ingo
 
Ah, the good ol' wrestling coach. A man who loved torturing people. I swear, to be a wrestling coach, you have to be beyond sadistic. :p

I too think that something happens in my pre-shot routine that causes me to lose focus and I have been working on things to try to make it stop.
I have tried to speed up and slow down my approach to the table. Counted my practice strokes, ignored how many practice strokes I took. etc.

But now, after thinking about it....I have never paid any attention to what i do AFTER the shot.......before i start my PSR. Hmmmmm....

Now I feel the need to practice. Damn pool room doesnt open til 11.
 
I have the same problem. Focus! I swear I have a.d.d.
What seams to help is I stay down until the shot is 100% complete. Watch the cue ball come to a stop and just pay attention to exactly what the cue just did.
Sometimes in a tourn. Or just playing I seem to get bored or just take it all for granted and I loose focus. If I really focus on what I described above. After 3-10 shots of pure focusing on the cue balls every action I will get into the "zone". Then I'm on auto Pilate.
 
I have the same problem. Focus! I swear I have a.d.d.
What seams to help is I stay down until the shot is 100% complete. Watch the cue ball come to a stop and just pay attention to exactly what the cue just did.
Sometimes in a tourn. Or just playing I seem to get bored or just take it all for granted and I loose focus. If I really focus on what I described above. After 3-10 shots of pure focusing on the cue balls every action I will get into the "zone". Then I'm on auto Pilate.

auto Pilate? lol
 
The 'joy' aspect of it is no problem. I love playing the game. I love watching the game.

And I love being the dog in the match. Puts a little bit of 'good pressure' on me and picks me up a bit.

My focus just goes away and I cant get it back. Its not that I'm giving up or that I feel like the match is on lock and I can coast, I can be up 9-0 in a race to 10 with the case ball hanging and I'm still playing the next shot is the most important. I can be down 9-0 with my opponent shooting at a hanger and until that ball falls, the match is still up for grabs. So its not that part of my mental game.

Curly,
Paying a shrink to help me is not worth the time or money. The way I feel about my mother has nothing to do with the fact my focus goes away. Plus, the fact that you are complaining about someone 'giving information away' is pretty funny. The fact that people in this forum embrace the ideas of passing on some knowledge or lending a helping hand to others must sicken you. The time of 'old pros and their secrets that will be taken to the grave' is over, and has been for years.


The people teaching this in pool, are not shrinks, not doctors, and they could care less if you hate your momma and your daddy beat the S*** out of you growing up, that is not where they go, and if you think the BS worthless advice you are getting here for free sickens me, no it does not, its only going to confuse you more. Because you are getting free advice from people without a serious clue, so you got what you paid for it, nothing. If their advice worked, then why are you a choking dog and crying for help. If it worked, you would be out kicking butt like me and keeping your mouth shut about what you have, and your victims dont have. As long as you search for the answer to why you fold under the heat, here, its like searching for diamonds in your back yard.
 
I dont crack. Pressure doesnt get to me. I dont choke.

My mind just wanders slightly off track.

I dont know who you are, I have never played you. So you can sit there and make comments on how you are out kicking ass, and I'm not going to pay any attention to that at all.

I also dont know why you are so adamant about people going out to buy lessons. I think they are a good thing. I also dont think I need them at this point. I work 55-60 hours a week so its not like I have time to take them anyway.

I was just trying to get a few peoples collective thoughts on it.
My FREE advice to you would be to stop being an asshole. If this bothers you so much, ignore it.
 
When I get out of focus there is one thing that I often seem to have gotten away from and that is not being specific enough in my target. Instead of aiming at (and focusing on) a VERY specific contact POINT I drift into a more vague habit of just looking at the object ball or the general area of the OB I'm aiming at.

I've found that by making a conscious effort to get back to picking out the very specific point on the OB to aim at and staring hard at that exact pin-point often times brings my game back into focus.

Hope this helps.
 
I dont crack. Pressure doesnt get to me. I dont choke.

My mind just wanders slightly off track.

I dont know who you are, I have never played you. So you can sit there and make comments on how you are out kicking ass, and I'm not going to pay any attention to that at all.

I also dont know why you are so adamant about people going out to buy lessons. I think they are a good thing. I also dont think I need them at this point. I work 55-60 hours a week so its not like I have time to take them anyway.

I was just trying to get a few peoples collective thoughts on it.
My FREE advice to you would be to stop being an asshole. If this bothers you so much, ignore it.



No I get it, I get you, its simple, your too cheap to book a lesson and pay out money, you want it free from here, and you wont accept, you wont find it here. Saying you dont have time for a lesson is a real lame cop out.
Your mind wanders for a reason, you dont know how to control it, period.

I just dont get pool players and how cheap they are. You dont see this in Tennis, or Golf, every course, or center has a hired pro working there giving lessons every day, and most of those who belong, take regular lessons. They all understand, that is the only way one advances. Only in pool, do they want it free, and think their pals will give them the answers for free. When do you guys, wake up to this.
 
I dont crack. Pressure doesnt get to me. I dont choke.

My mind just wanders slightly off track.

I dont know who you are, I have never played you. So you can sit there and make comments on how you are out kicking ass, and I'm not going to pay any attention to that at all.

I also dont know why you are so adamant about people going out to buy lessons. I think they are a good thing. I also dont think I need them at this point. I work 55-60 hours a week so its not like I have time to take them anyway.

I was just trying to get a few peoples collective thoughts on it.
My FREE advice to you would be to stop being an asshole. If this bothers you so much, ignore it.

in every poolhall, bar, or restraunt you will always meet at least one asshole, why do you expect a forum do be different ? jk :wink:

i have the same problem as you. there are days i play above myself and there are days i play so lousey i should have just left my cues in my case .
 
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