Any tips for success with this shot?

Tennesseejoe said:
BR, try this. I am assuming this shot is straight in. Aim the cue a little to the right with a little high left English and an 45 degree elevated cue. It is a little tricky and you will probably double kiss foul till you get the hang of it. It is a great shot to know.
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this a good explanation on the set up. Here are some tips to execute a "2mm follow/feuette stroke". Anchor your bridge well. Even put pressure on your hand so it doesn't move. Make sure the aim point allows the shaft to stroke past the object ball. Extremely loose wrist. Someone should be able to pull the cue out of your hand. That loose. Stay down and use just your wrist and stroke through. Like completely through. Follow through should be at least 1 diamond according to this diagram.
 
I play these with only my wrist moving, find it easier to control the very short stroke. And like everything it take practice,

Dave <-- not a pro or an instructor, just a guy who tries things on a pool table
 
After thinking about it. I'd do what another prior poster said. Set it up and practice this shot.
 
BRussell said:
I’m just looking for advice on follow when the balls are close.
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Like most post, this is a jab shot, you just need to condition your arm so you can perform the task and the only way to do that is:

Repetition, repetition, repetition.

Grab whitey and any OB, set them up 1 ball apart and shoot it into any pocket, do this ten times without a double kiss. Then, creep whitey a little closer and repeat.

And remember, the difference between a banger and a pro is - a banger practices until he makes it, a pro practices until he doesn't miss.

Not that it matters, but in that particular shot, I would fade to the right of the pocket and follow into the long rail an an attempt at getting to the bottom rail.
 
DaveK said:
I play these with only my wrist moving, find it easier to control the very short stroke. And like everything it take practice,

Dave <-- not a pro or an instructor, just a guy who tries things on a pool table
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Oddly, I play it with all elbow and biceps with a firmer grip than normal. Since, I use both stroke slip and slip stroke, that close and I'm likely to let the cue slide too far.
 
I learned a technique from an old carom player who was my mentor when I started playing. Basically you keep your forearm stationary and use only your wrist to shoot. With training you can get crazy action on the ball and a lot of power. It's a technical shot, and maybe not for everybody, but you can get crazy close without double hitting, with practise.
 
I play with forward balanced cues, and hence my grip is mostly forward. Old school like Willie.
I play the game with lots of follow and center ball shape, and my stroke makes this easier.
Thus, for your shot, I just chalk up really well and shoot super high on the cue ball, coming off above it, and rolling it the few feet it needs.
My forward balanced cue stroke makes this easier than folks who use a rear-heavy cue with hand near the buttcap.
Many one-pocket players use forward-balanced, lighter cues due to it being easier for finesse strokes. Alex P. does, for example.
I use mine for all games, and move the whitey around nicely, tyvm!
Stiff, forward-balanced (Joss/Schon), lighter (18.5 oz) cues with harder (Triangle) tips, move the cue ball around with precision and ease imo.
I miss more SHOTS than shape, and I don't miss many shots!:cool:
 
BRussell said:
Here’s Dr Dave’s video on the subject:
(I should have known!)
So many of those ideas seem like gimmicks that are fun to try and demonstrate like trick shots.
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I didn't understand the one where he lays the cue on the table, then uses two fingers as his grip hand. He says, "The bridge hand will stop the forward motion of the cue." Is he gripping the cue tightly with his bridge hand, like in a previous example? After watching the clip several times, I think I figured out what he meant, "The bridge hand will stop the forward motion of the "grip hand", preventing the cue from following through too far."
 
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